August 2012 - sunny (ha!) summer babies

[ImissMiniPop]

they're starting to arrive, so here's our 'Due in August' post natal thread. To talk poo, pee, burping and everything else, too...

Here's link to antd-natal thread for those we'll be waiting for www.mumsnet.com/Talk/antenatal_clubs/1511603-Due-in-August-Thread-Part-6

Have borrowed Needles list, which I'll start here, please feel free to add your details to it. I'm rubbish at list keeping, and hopefully Needles will be along to keep it updated :o

BIRTHS
tigger8 (?) DC? due 27/7/12, GIRL born 11/7/12
missjemima (?) DC2 BOY due 3/8/12, born 10/7/12
PoppySeed34 (34) DC1 BOY due 4/8/12, born 28/5/12

Well dd has thrush, which I missed! I am hoping if treated it might help with all her screaming.

Glad your Dh is being more helpful, it makes Al the difference not feeling like you are battling alone.

As someone who has done this before, it does get easier! I keep having to remind myself!

Sandy slept for SIX consecutive hours last night 9-3.. Almost 5 weeks old so here's something to keep anyone needing it going... Its getting better!

Don't have thrush so boob pain unexplained hmmmm

Hey jacob settled down right away after his 3am feed. I took a risk and did not change his nappy and it paid off no leaks and he slept till 7.30 yay. Only had to co-sleep the 1st couple of days so far except when I drift off feeding but remeber doing it a bit later with ds1 a couple of times so not ruling it out yet! Went to asda yesterday and got some bargin nappys and washing liquid yay! Plus some cheap trousers for ds1.

ham maybe soreness is boobs being too full try massaging them and expressing a bit feel around for a blocked duct or something?

Does anyone have any idea why MiniGere goes through spells of screaming at the breast? It's not every time, for example yesterday afternoon, evening and during the night feeds were lasting over an hour as he would latch, gulp a few times, come off the breast screaming and continue until relatched, gulps then screams again.

This morning, fine again... what could be causing this?

Does your milk flow v quickly hamster? Mine does and it makes LO gulp/cough sometimes. Don't know if that's the prob but if it is my HV and MW both suggested expressing a bit off first (hand or pump) so its not so much for them. They also said to lean back when feeding or do it lying down so excess milk can dribble out.

Lois I have a lot of milk so it probably does flow quickly. He tends to gulp a lot and get a lot of wind. I'll try expressing a bit first, how does that work if you are out and about? Does it calm down?

Health Visitors are meant to be getting in touch but it seems like we are playing answer phone tennis at the moment...

My health visitor came today (DS is one month old today) and did his 10-14 day checks - only two weeks late then!

Hamster, don't want to alarm you, but could it be reflux? DS sometimes coughs and splutters a bit if the milk flows too fast, but doesn't scream. The other day, my breast was so full that when he tried to latch on, I sprayed him in the face - he wasn't too happy about that .

How are you doing today Ham? Glad you got some sleep, doesn't it make you feel human?

I rang my Grandma earlier, DS is her first Great grandchild, and we sent them a newborn photo and things. She asked me when my due date was! I had to remind her that the baby was born a month ago, and could we please come and visit her... oh dear. She offered me use of a crib which was last used circa 1960, so I politely declined.

Off to buy cotbed sheets later - thinking of moving DS into his own room in a couple of weeks time. Has anyone else done this yet? He's almost too big for his moses basket, and he's disturbing DH quite a bit.

Mine has settled down a bit in that I don't feel as full/engorged iyswim, so as long as you express just before the feed you don't get an over supply.

Other option if you're out is to offer the breast you last fed from and then the full one - as less likely to gulp later in the feed. That was advice from this thread! Oh and I also use Infacol to help with the wind; think a lot of us are doing that.

Hope that helps :)

Sandy does that too hamster usually it's wind and happens when he is colicky... I tend to try and ge a burp from him if he is like that. If I can get one he settles. Sometimes he will poo and tha settles him. Sometimes he just does it for ages and pinches my boob and kicks me so if I e exasperated I give him the dummy to settle him for 5 mins, take it away and put him back on calmer.

I'm doing well okay gnomi thanks for asking! Sandy is a sleep machine. We are watching singing in the rain together just now hehe. Actually got a lot done in our box room while he was sleeping today... All in aid of getting him a nursery made up some time before he leaves home ha! My gran also offered me a cot... From when she was a baby so the 30s!!!

In laws coming for dinner (takeaway). Not going into massive details but they've been quite demanding and passive aggressive about expecting to see sandy all the time. It's really getting to DH all the guilt trips ifthey don't see him often. This started on day 5 when they were gutted they would not see him for 2 days having attended every single hospital visit. How often do your parents and in laws visit or get visited. Mine live not too far away I'm working towards every 2 weeks for each, alternating them so its only one grand parent visit a week. Otherwise DH and I will never get time with just us 3! Its actually driving me mad having to worry about other peoples feelings all the time with a new baby!!

Whoa lots of typing errors today... Apologies... I'm not drunk I promise, just one handed holding the wee man ;)

Hey Ham, GPs can be tricky, eh? I have a different problem in that both sets live about 3 hrs drive away, so don't come that often but when they do they 1.stay with us (house guests with a newborn ) and 2. Stay for several days at a time (intense!). However I'm really keen for LO to know his GPs well, so am happy with this- to an extent. Am thinking that each set will get a few days once a month (so alternating every two weeks)... Family politics, eh? Gotta love it.

Well I see my parents every sunday for sunday afternoon tea and sunday dinner we are very close and they live locally. We only see mil occasionally did try to aim for once a month after ds1 was born but its not worked out that way. We have to go to her really as she cannot drive and getting the train is a bloody nightmare from where she lives plus she has a house and we only have a flat. But see her as much as we can at least once every 3 months or so as travelling with little ones is a mission was easier now ds1 is older but with a newborn not so easy especially with the lack of services on our journey nowhere to stop if someone is screaming for milk!

ham ah isn't it amazing how having grand kids adds in a whole new intensive dimension to parents wanting to see you all more often?! Ours are 10 hours drive and 12 hour flight away!! It can be hard because when they do visit they are around for long periods at a time a few times a year, staying with us, which can be intense, but we do also appreciate the help and babysitting. We also have to deal with comparisons as to who gets to spend more time with us... but DS1 is getting to know them already and really enjoys them all.

Ham (voice of thrush doom here), my DD1 didn't have any thrush symptoms only me so keep an eye on it please

tash I have just noticed his tongue is white... Booking gp appointment this morning!

Sandy had a disrupted night. Mostly I reckon cause he was overtired being held by visitors when he was yawning like a find two mins before, but that never seems to matter to those who don't need to feed him every two hours all night long eh? Thinking of a sign on my door saying 'visitors f-off'

Wrote a long one handed post yesterday then pressed back by accident and lost it!Rowan also cries and hits out when feeding. I was directed to the description of 'evening fussiness' on kellymom and it describes his evening behaviour perfectlUnfortunately he also seems to have morning and night time fussiness too! Oh he's back for more! TTFN x

Hey everyone well jacob decided it was a good idea to feed every 2hrs last night so feeling groggy this morn. As quiet often I would be awake for an hour feeding changing and settling so not much sleep for me!

ham are these people just turning up unannoced if so that's very rude if not when ds1 was born dh made sure we had not more than 1 visitor on a given day and only every other day so we were not overwhelmed. You just have to put your foot down.

Morning! 10 days old today and we're just about managing now, phew! Although I'm not sure what's in store from one day to the next.

ham Dh's parents are coming over on the 13th day and wanted to give us the time to adjust but I guess they've picked this up as LO is their 6th grandchild. However, my mum wanted to be there from the moment she came into the world and seemed to see DH as an inconvenience as she asked who my birth partner was and who was going to help me... Hmmm? DH. Anyway both my parents came on day 5 for some cuddles and so hopefully she's happier. Hmm, family politics get tricky when there's a new arrival on the scene, it actually feels like they're a new toy or public property?! Neighbours have popped over and are so eager to have a hold but not let them in yet. How mean are we!

DH off now getting me a manual breast pump. I'm saddened that I can't find the time to express as our LO has to bottle feed because she can't latch on. After the cs, I can't get comfie with an electric pump as I'm standing and so last ditch attempt at bf is with a manual one maybe lying down or in a better position. I just hope day 10 and my milk can pick up, I've only managed 20 ml at one go which wouldn't fill her up at all.

Yes marmite they do seem to think of him as a toy. FIL actually said yesterday to sandy "are you hungry? Oh but you've got visitors who've come to see you". It makes me really upset that I have to constantly watch sandys face when they hold him as I can't trust them to give him to me if he is hungry. It's especially bad as he isn't a crying baby when hungry just wriggly and doing the o face. Poor soul.

They don't turn up unannounced susie but do bring other people over uninvited. I'd have no probs if I had a heads up text saying is it ok if I bring so and so but for half the family to just appear at the same time argh!

I really do want him to know his grandparents but they just don't seem to have any care for making things easy on us in the early days. They had 3 children you'd think they'd remember! What's worse is my own DM is the contrast when she comes she never disturbs him if he is sleeping or feeding or even just comfy on me and helps round the house and if I'm knavkered when she comes only stays half an hour. I took sandy to bed to feed last night as in laws were still here and it was late and thought that was a good hint but still lingered another 45 mins with DH who just wanted to get to bed!

Sorry I sound so ungrateful I just needed to vent. Can't say to DH as though I know he feels similar it hurts cause it is his parents. Also I know I am over reacting to everything as hormonal and so protective of my LO! Will shut up now!

Going to check that out on kellymom now white

ham you do not seem ungrateful. You need some space with a new born and sleep. Sounds bad but your dh should have just said that it was past his bed time and he was off to bed and were they ok to see themselves out. Perhaps the only way they would have got the message! Sometimes you have to be tough! Fortunately all of my family and friends are like your mum and some of them held off even contacting me for a week or so. Hope things get better soon!

Omg. All I do is feed. All day. It's like the hollow baby. HV says he's having a growth spurt but I spend hours and hours doing it. Can't be like this forever, surely?! Am worried I won't be able to keep up with his demands.
Ham, sorry to hear about your visitor nightmares. My mil is besotted and also doesn't take a cue to leave (here last night till 7pm when trying to get supper on etc). Hope it calms down soon but so difficult when people don't take the hint. Esp as they're not toys to be passed about. Hope it resolves for you.
Feeling tired and headachy today. Not helped bu all the screaming and feeding. Am going to look at that kellymom article later too re evening restlessness. X

How old is your LO MrsMiggins? They have a growth spurt around 3 weeks, and another at 6 weeks.

That said, all I've done today is feed, it seems - DS will feed for 20 mins on one breast, then I'll burp him, he'll catnap for 5-10 minutes and then root for more food. This cycle then repeats. He had a sleep of an hour or so this morning but hasn't slept since about 11am apart from these little catnaps, and so he's really overtired now! He'll finally go to sleep - having fed all evening - between 9pm and 11pm. Does this sound familiar to anyone else?

He's 2 weeks tomorrowgnomi. He finally slept this afternoon having not slep all day, had a snack 30 mins ago and is now asleep-ish again. I worry that he won't sleep tonight when I want to watch Dallas so be overtired. HV thinks is also a growth spurt but it's exhausting.

Mini geek is also two weeks tomorrow and I have been stuck in Marathon evening feeds for s few nights now.

Also finding it hard to get her on her back to sleep... mW says its all normal...

Thank heavens for this thread - it's comforting to know others know what we're going through with the sleep deprivation, permanently attached babies or visitor tribulations :) People always say they don't stay babies for long so I'm trying to remember and enjoy this phase, tough as it is somedays.

Hands round lots of chocolate biscuits and cups of tea