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InmaculadaConcepcion · 24/05/2012 19:07

New thread!!

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StoneBaby · 29/08/2012 20:54

Craky NK it must be cold!! It's damp over here but not to the point of putting the heating on.

IC great news!!

NK2b1f2 · 29/08/2012 21:03

SB I think it's not too cold (dh in t-shirt), just me being ill... I'm still shivering in bed with two duvets... Right, enough moaning. I'll better switch the heating off before the children roast in bed.

StoneBaby · 29/08/2012 21:37

Oh poor you. That may be why you were exhausted too!? Hot toddy (sp) should cure it

SconesForTea · 30/08/2012 07:50

Congratulations IC!

Get well NK you poor thing.

LeMousquetaireAnonyme · 30/08/2012 08:56

congratulations IC!

NK2b1f2 · 30/08/2012 13:30

Mous I may try your friend's approach and let dd2 clean up after herself! She is completely fine in nusery and when out and about and only has accidents at home. We had a terrible weekend with her peeing everywhere, then coming to tell us there was a puddle and grinning. I tried a reward system where she could put a marble into a vase if she used potty or loo (and take one out again if she wet herself) with a promise of a treat if she had enough marbles by the evening. She seemed keen at first but it made no difference to her accidents. By Sunday she started refusing to use loo/potty and I found it too hard not to get cross with her. We put her back in a pull-up on Monday to give her and us a rest and 'reboot'. She was totally fine in pants in nursery on Tuesday again, so she can do it if she wants to!

ClimbingPenguin · 30/08/2012 13:53

sounds frustrating nk

StoneBaby · 30/08/2012 14:02

The cleaning up seems a good idea especially as she understands what's going on. Good luck for the weekend NK

NK2b1f2 · 30/08/2012 16:56

I really don't get dd2. She had a small accident in nursery today because she was too busy playing, and staff said she was very apologetic about it. I totally expect this kind of accident and obviously would never tell her off. Once home I asked her if she needed a wee and she said no, then sat on her chair for a snack and immediately and lavishly wet herself Shock, then grinned and told me she'd done a wee. I lost it a bit and told her she couldn't have a biscuit if she behaved that way Blush and got a Hmm look from dd1! dd1 took her out of the room and had a chat with her in the living room, after which dd2 came back into the kitchen and did a nice big poo for her sister on the potty... Maybe I should let dd1 take over trying to potty train her sister??

NK2b1f2 · 30/08/2012 16:58

So... rewards don't work, threats don't work... I am now trying to appeal to her sense of pride and if she deliberately wets herself I'll put her into a pull up. She hates that because she says she is no baby any longer! Fingers crossed...

stoofadoof · 30/08/2012 20:33

hello hello?

sorry, it's been a while - how's everyone doing?!?! not been on MN for, oh, erm, probably about 18+ months?

what've I missed???? ;-)

ClimbingPenguin · 30/08/2012 20:40

HELLO!!

a few babies, a few sad relationships, a few other migrations back to the UK, lots of toddler fun. IC had a DS yesterday in fact (can't remember if you are on fb or not).

What's the news with you?

stoofadoof · 30/08/2012 21:04

oooh hello!! I never sussed out whereabouts on FB we were - i'd probably have kept in touch better if I had! How do I find us??!!

think i finally gave up trying to keep up with MN when I got permanent FT work again? worked 60+ hour weeks for most of the last 18 months? love the people I work with and my job but the number of hours is crackers? (back where i was before the accidental emigration)

moved again may last year - back of beyond, big garden and veg patch etc - s'lovely?

DH finally got some work in feb - not back in TV yet, but decent pay for round here, and only 3 days a week which fits well with DS and DD.

DD will be 6 in nov and going into year 1 next week!

DS developing within all the 'normal' parameters.. sturdy lad :) not attempted potty training yet, though got it out the cupboard a couple of months ago, and he usually has a pee before bath. will probs go for it during october half term I think. hoping it's as straightforward as DD (who did it at 2.9 months in two days, then sussed nights about a month later)

lost hugely loved friend suddenly in Jan.

most recently had a bit of mare (actually why I came back to MN - pootling around the health forums!)

on hols 5 wks ago had blue lights ambulance ride and stay on childrens ward with DS after febrile convulsion.

2 weeks ago DD became ill, admitted to hospital in isolation with rotavirus, andenovirus and e.coli H0157?. DS admitted couple of days later with same. both home now, and definitely coming out the other side but it's been bloody awful? not quite the lovely 6 week summer hols with the DC's we were hoping for

anyway, enough about me :)

i had a quick squizz through this thread and saw enough familiar names for it to feel like coming back to a group of friends :) aaaaah

and congratulations IC xx

NK2b1f2 · 30/08/2012 21:13

Stoof... Thought about you a lot! So nice to hear from you again (it's BabyGiraffes if you wonder). Glad you are all settled but sorry for the awful summer holidays!
CC (now CP) can pm you how to get on fb thread...
Welcome back!!!

ClimbingPenguin · 30/08/2012 22:23

stoof so sorry to hear that, how awful. I've had two minor AnE incidents with DS (10 months) and that was bad enough.

fb is a secret group now, so best bit is if we find each other as friends on fb as I don't think email invites work anymore on that setting. pm your details and I'll try to add you as a friend and then add you onto the group.

I periodically think of you as well so glad you are back, shame about the crazy work hours though. I feel we are a nice number on here, less than 10 but enough to keep ourselves occupied and reassured.

DD's latest things have been telling me to 'stop talking mummy' and 'mummy, leave the room please' to avoid being told to stop doing something or to catch her doing it in the first place Grin

SconesForTea · 31/08/2012 10:52

Hey stoof welcome back! It sounds like you have been having a trying time of it. How incredibly stressful and scary for you. Very glad that DCs are on the mend now. Phew.

Can I be really nosy and ask what you do? 60+ hours a week, wow.... Even when I was an accountant in the City I didn't work those hours I was a very lazy one though

Great that your DH has got work now. Can you reduce your hours?

NK just want to say I feel for you with your DD2's weeing. It does appear that she is doing it deliberately as some sort of attention/control mechanism. And it is probably to do with you going back to work Sad But she will just have to learn that this is the way things are now. How have the pull-ups worked?

Hope you're feeling better.

With DD1, she absolutely and utterly refuses to poo anywhere other than her nappy or in her knickers. When she needs a poo she asks for a nappy, and we tell her if she poos on potty/toilet she can have chocolate (and have stopped giving chocolate at all any more -it is her most highly-valued sweet!). She just does it in her knickers. The constant cleaning up of horrid, pooey knickers and her legs, wherever else it goes is starting to make me cross. She knows what she is doing. I have thought about putting her back in nappies for a while but now she knows how to take them off so I'm not sure if it would work.

Although I definitely don't want any more DCs, I am soooooo jealous of IC's snuggles with her newborn!

ClimbingPenguin · 31/08/2012 14:33

scones I too yearn a bit to hold a newborn.

DD was up at 5 today. She's been getting up at 5:30 for about 5 days as she's needed a poo, but cries and says her tummy hurts. Today was the worst, she woke in pain around 12 as well. Normally she sitting at the gate calling for us quietly rather than crying in her bed. The consistency itself is fine, so don't think a typical food trigger (plus she hasn't had anything too unusual). Then again I get random cramps and pains when I've not eaten a known trigger either. Just all a little sad.

Thankfully she was tired enough to do a little nap when DS did his morning one and I snoozed as well (despite DS staying latched on throughout, at least an hour latched on he did).

scones what happens when she has nothing on her bottom half? Initially DD seemed wary of pooing on the potty and asked for a nappy. She managed to catch her with the potty just before she did it and then she seemed to realise it's alright and was fine afterwards.

StoneBaby · 31/08/2012 14:43

scones does she poo at the same time everyday? If yes try to sit her on the potty before and explain to her that everything is fine and that if she does it in the potty she'll bave a sweet. DS has been doing his in the potty for a month now but he still holds my hand when straining! I think he needs the reassurance that it is okay and normal. Good luck

NK2b1f2 · 31/08/2012 15:50

Dd2 now really unwell, has barely eaten and asked to go to bed at lunchtime Sad. Dh helpfully pointed out that this time I gave it to her rather than the other way round... Thanks. On the plus side she's not wet herself yet today even during her nap. I guess she feels too poorly to score a point.

NK2b1f2 · 31/08/2012 19:49

Cautiously optimistic that I may have had a breakthrough with dd2 today. She spent most of the day on my lap feeling poorly (when she's ill only Mama will do) and stopped being stroppy with me (Scones, you are quite right that my work is part of her problem). She didn't wet herself today, again probably because she was poorly and didn't have the energy to go off and leave a puddle and then smirk at me. I made a big fuss of her and she got a special sticker on her top and one on a new basic chart on the fridge. She seemed rather pleased Smile. Touch wood she's over her 'protest wees'.

Scones, feel for you with the poo issues. dd1 did that and I did allow her to use a nappy for poos for a while. If I remember rightly one day when she did a wee, a poo escaped, and she was fine with the loo after that. I think in your case I would go along with giving her a nappy for a while. If she doesn't stop that after a few months I would try bribery! Grin

CP It's been a while since she had antibiotics isn't it? They can cause tummy upsets and constipation but I think it's too long ago now. Could she be hungry at 5? Hope you get to the bottom of it... early morning after a broken night is no fun.

Mous Has your dd1 settled back into school and is enjoying it? Schools here start on Tuesday and I feel a bit nervous how dd1 will get on with her new teacher (the last one totally got her and was fab).

I had to smile about dd1's attempts to parent her sister. dd2 has barely eaten today and I overheard dd1 telling her that if she at least tried one pasta shape at dinner she could have frozen yoghurt for dessert... Wink

I've got a ridiculously heavy cold still, so early night for me Sad

InmaculadaConcepcion · 31/08/2012 20:41

stoof! How lovely to hear from you again! Although it sounds like you've had a nightmare with your LO's health and those work hours sound horrendous. Good to hear your news though and have you back on the thread!

So....here we are, back home again - we were discharged yesterday afternoon, almost exactly 24 hours after the operation.

DS is so far proving to be an extremely chilled out little chap. Although he does like to be on the boob as much as possible and last night I got almost no sleep because of his fidgeting and slightly comical froglike gulping he does when he wants to be plugged in. I was trying to get him to sleep in his Cocoonababy beside me, but like many newborns, he prefers to be even closer so I'm going to have to sort out proper co-sleeping arrangements for tonight. It didn't help that DD was awake and calling out for an hour - I went into her about five times, DH twice. I think she needed to prove that mummy would still come and comfort her if she needed it after being unsettled by my absence and subsequent reappearance with DS!

The ELCS was actually rather fun - the all-female operating team were great, very lovely and very funny. We put a CD of our music on during, so the whole thing was punctuated with comments like "Ooh, what's this? I like this one!"
My fears about no skin-to-skin in the theatre were groundless - the anaesthetist asked me beforehand if that was what I wanted and made sure the various traces and my gown etc. were positioned to allow for it. And sure enough, as soon as DS was out and had been dried off, he was tucked under my chin.

Shortly after we had been wheeled into Recovery, he did a breast crawl, then latched on as soon as the breast was offered and chugged away. I think that was my best moment because it was such a wonderful contrast from the way it happened with DD - everything I would have wished for.

DS is latching okay, but my nips are getting a bit sore anyway just because they need to toughen up again. No major damage to them so far. And I'm just so chuffed he's gone for it so easily after all the nightmares I had trying to breastfeed DD.

The hospital team on the ward were also lovely - all the nurses and midwives were friendly and helpful, I was so impressed. The only drawback was being in a ward of six, which didn't exactly make for a restful environment, especially overnight with one baby after another starting to howl, or various mums snoring and snorting....! Once I'd got DS settled (on a pillow beside me on the bed - he rejected his cot, there's a surprise!!) I put on an eye mask and stuck in ear plugs and actually managed a few hours kip, which I wouldn't have done otherwise. Ironically, more than I managed last night!

I was pretty pleased when the midwife said I was looking good to go yesterday morning - I had to pass at least 600mls of urine once the catheter was out and show no signs of raised temperature or blood pressure and DS needed to be feeding well (no problems there, hoorah!) and pass his health check, which he did with flying colours. One of his ears isn't working yet, but I'm not too concerned about that - DD was exactly the same and hers sorted itself out by the time she was a couple of months old.

DH brought us both back at 14.00 so sleeping DS could be cuddled and cooed over by PIL, SIL, BIL.

DD is vaguely pleased that DS is now out, but has mainly lost interest because of his sleepiness. We'll see how she goes in the days that follow!

As for me, apart from being a bit tired and a bit tender, I'm fine!

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InmaculadaConcepcion · 31/08/2012 20:43

PS hope you and your DD2 get well soon NK

Likewise your DD, CP

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NK2b1f2 · 31/08/2012 21:21

IC He's gorgeous!! (sneakily checked your blog) Suddenly getting very broody myself..... Wink

ClimbingPenguin · 01/09/2012 13:38

DD seemed fine today, still woke at 5am though

I saw the photos on fb, some lovely ones there. Hope today is still going well for you. was a fair few months before DS stopped sleeping in my chest

NK2b1f2 · 01/09/2012 16:27

Can't see pictures on fb!? Are you friends with Mr IC and they are in his page?