September 2011 babies are rolling into 2012

[ssmileWithFairylights]

Hello in new thread come over and chat part two from the September edd babies arriving thread.
Just watched strictly dancing final part one but can't keep eyes open for part two so off to bed now will watch.it tom. Sleep well.....zzzzz

ssmile. I know, gah, but she's everywhere anyhow, I just need to watch for her standing up on something and then letting go! She occasionally still does than leaning backwards thing when sat so ends up with head banging on the floor. Well done for the sleep last night from LO, I keep thinking I might try not feeding her if she wakes, but I give in and she goes off straight away, although at 7am this morning I just cuddled her and she went off, as I had only fed her an hour before.

Yay wedding and standing! Fab news.

Well dh and I have had a shitty 48 hours which I did honestly think was going to result in us parting ways, only time will tell.

Ds is still waking more than usual but we do have some 'mamas' going on soviets hard to be mad.

Now we have started him on food I need to be careful, this is where I put loads of weight back on last time. 6 mths of bf and my skinny jeans will still fit me now we are weaning!

and at the standing 100, that's so exciting. DD is also starting to take an interest in things that are above her eyeline and putting hands up on the bottom shelf of the bookshelf and also on the bottom stair but nothing as dramatic as yours.

And yay for the wedding date Sebs, I hope you have a really lovely time dress, shoe, underwear , make-up and everything else shopping. It was def my fave bit of getting married! We've got a baby back-pack too, I mostly use it on the school run as it's easier than lugging the pushchair out. Now the weather's warming up we'll use it to walk on the beach too as shingle plus pushchairs is a right PITA.

Loves for you having a difficult time with DH. I find that we are doing peaks and troughs too, we'll spend a couple of days being really foul to each other and then snap out of it and be fine again. It's so very hard to be tolerant when you're knackered. I hope you're OK now.

Glad your ankle's feeling better Queen, I have pulled all the muscles in my thigh running yesterday which is a bit of a bugger. I know I should go on the other thread to ask this but are you at the end of the nine weeks C25K yet? I am doing 33 minute runs now as I slowed up a bit once I got to the 25 min+ stage. And huuuge congratulations on the big sleep too I bet you're feeling brilliant today!

Brilliant weight loss Ssmile, very impressive. I've managed 15lbs since new years so I'm just behind you! I did similar to you last night too and managed to get DD to settle when she woke at 3ish; she only went from midnight to 5am without a feed but that's better than her usual every 2-3 hours.

It is so warm here now, the garden's full of bees and ladybirds and the bats were out this evening as well. Tonight the DCs were in bed while it was still light outside for the first time this year. Roll on summer!

Feral - I'm pretty sure all out problems could be solved with a few days in your part of the country...beach...drinks...walks....food...the mermaid...crab soup....the sloop...happy days

loves hope things sort themselves out its SO stressful at time with young babes and no sleep.

feralgirl I must find our backpack my DH carried our first loads in it last time but I thought she was bit young for it at mo, will go in loft at weekend. Fab weight loss too feral we can encourage each other :)

It's getting increasing hard to leave Lo anywhere safe now for a minute to even go for a wee now she got major wiggles on. Might have to think about getting the travel cot out again soon. Last time I had it up in the lounge for 6-8wks so I had somewhere safe to park Lo she did end up hurling all her toys out of it after a while when she realised "in the penn" meant mummy having a shower or cooking dinner time not her mummy time o: I even parked her in the maclaren buggy in the kitchen the other day just so I could cook tea!

@ Cornwall's restorative powers; if only it were that simple! Or maybe DH and I are immune after living here our whole lives...

SSmile, I wish I had space in our living room for the pen! With DS and DD's toys it's a bit cramped. And we've got one of those playpens that folds out as a room divider and we're using it to cordon off the fireplace atm. I do seem to spend my whole time running around picking up tiny bits of DS's playmobil and marbles and panicking about choking hazards in a way that just wasn't a problem when DS was this age.

Even tge Chinese takeaway in st Ives tastes better than anywhere else....so does the subway

Thanks for the wedding wishes. Yes, am looking forward to the shopping bit, but wish I could lose some more weight :( I'm now spurned on more by Ssmile and Feral's excellent weight loss though!

100 - my non-virtual Hen Weekend is on the 19th May... so perhaps the Saturay before? Sounds good though - spa treatments all day... bliss!

Loves - hope things get better between you and OH. As someone said, it's so hard when you're knackered to be rationale, so I hope things get better.

Queen - YAY on the sleep front... that's excellent, and long may it reign!

Feral - I agree, doesn't life seem so much better when the sun comes out and all the lovely things associated with sunshine.

Ssmile - boo to the 4th cold, hoping it gets better quickly. But, well done on the better sleep. Hope that lasts.

Well, we're going from bad to worse with the sleeping front. She doesn't even like sleeping in our bed now (after having such a positive start to sleeping in her own room). The only thing that would comfort her in the last couple of nights is her bouncy chair - but I really don't want her to sleep in that as it's so not good for her. Spoke to the HV today on the phone as I thought it could be acid reflux making her thrash about. However, HV said I really should try and "train" her to settle herself by putting her in her cot bed in the day and leaving her to go off on her own (when she's wanting a nap) rather than rocking her in my arms, which I do. I KNOW I should do this - and I will start as I can't keep rocking her to sleep. But, I hope this is enough to get her to settle herself in the night. She reckons if I stick at it for a week, the night times should get better - but if they don't to go back to her and then try something else. She didn't think it was acid reflux as they tend to grow out of it at this age... So, think we're in for a rough week of little sleep whilst this "training" goes on... but if we can crack it, it will be worth it. Wish someone had told me when she was little to not use dummy or rocking to get her to sleep - but then you're so tired you do whatever is easier...

But on the plus side - she had spinach today and liked it!! Although it was disguised with pureed sweet potato and peas!

I managed to cook, puree and freeze pear, apple, mango, spinach, parsnip, sweet potato, peas and carrots today, so she has lots in the freezer now. I'll do some squash and dried apricots tomorrow then we're all set for a week or so!

Oh, bless her, OH is trying to give her the last bottle and she's not happy - that's another reason I think it might be acid reflux as she just hates the last bottle - or it could be that she's getting more full in the day? Must start reducing her milk... well, just hope tonight get's better... fingers crossed... and fingers crossed for you all too...

Poor you Sebs, it's so difficult when they've got a problem and you don't know how to solve it for them. Maybe you could try shush-patting to sleep instead of rocking? I stroke DD's head to soothe her when she's fretful.

I haven't really tried letting DD self-settle properly yet either. I worry because we've still got the side-car cot arrangement and I'm scared that if I leave her awake then she'll just crawl off the side of our bed I am going to have to toughen up a little bit soon but I can't quite bring myself to give up the semi-co-sleeping that we do. Plus she's just started crawling into bed with me when she wants a cuddle and it's just too cute for me to stop her!

Self-settle, not a hope here. Dd was great shed just lie there and look around then drop off. Ds will not be put down till he agrees it's time.

Fab news about baby standing.
Look forward to hen night (would love a spa day ), so exciting that yr wedding is so close.
Was in tears last night as sugggested DH did DS dinner from start to finish as he has only done it a couple of times and he did his usual thing of making me feel bad that he had to work so is not there to do it and as I have moved DS dinner to 6 he is not normally home early enough. He knows this is cause DS needs to go to bed earlier now so not my fault and on his days off I still don't ask him to do house jobs and let him have time to himself and a sleep which I never get. He did DS dinner but had to ask me every single step and I still did the clearing up. I don't want him to look back and realise he did not do much but get upset when I try so hard to relieve his stress at working yet I do everything and all night feeds too, DS still waking 3-4 times a night despite doing BLW and monster milk feeds.
I am making him out to be awful, he loves DS and is great with him most of the time and does occassionaly take him out for an hour on his days off but wish he would use his innitative a bit more.
DS is 6m tommorow and I am just knackered I think. Got to go and stay at MIL for weekend which will be really hard work. She is lovely but a neat freak, may have to feed DS in the garden as he gets VERY messy feeding himself.
Will try to be less grumpy

Feral - that is so cute! Lovely image of her crawling over for a cuddle :)

Well, she did manage to sleep part through the night in our bed last night (she managed 2 hours in her's) and then the rest was a mix of sleep / fuss / thrash. However, based on that, I don't think it's Acid reflux after all, and maybe the HV is right.

So, Day One of sleep training, and have to say a good start She fed a bottle at 5.30am, then porridge and puree and water from a lidded cup (the look to me that said "what's this tasteless thin liquid Mum... why you giving me this??" was priceless ) at 8.35 then put her down at 8.55 in her cot (she normally naps around then). She did her "wacka wacka" - this is her talk - I swear she's Australian! - for 10 mins, which turned into cries. The cries were turning into screams, when I was just going to run up to her, and... quiet. I could hear her talking to herself, then quiet again... she's been asleep since 9.15 (it's 9.35) so I'm amazed and so happy! This might be a fluke but I'm going to take it as a good start... Feral I did lots of cuddles before putting her down, then tummy strokes and lots of "sleep now" talk...

Like I said, probably a fluke, but we'll take successes when they come!!

Well, now have a To Do list for the wedding - thought I'd better since only got less than 3 months to organise, and so far have the venue and registrar booked and that's it. Hen weekend organised though :) Priorities!! However, in a couple of days I've got my hairdresser friend to agree to do hair and make up (She's a guest too, so we'll have a fun morning of getting ready with the girls and a little Champagne!), another friend who runs a Children's Party Business to organise cake, two friends to come with me to get dress / shoes and a friend of my Dad's knows someone who runs mini buses for 16 so they could do pick up's to the venue and back! So, for a laid back, non organised person that's not bad!! But, the To Do list is for a bit of peace of mind... I was never a To Do person, but since LO came along, I've made loads!

God, still asleep... I need the loo but it's next to her room so will have to wait!!!

Hope you all having a good day...

Grr I swear my family are just doing their best to be contrary this morning. DD woke every two hours last night then DH woke me up lumbering around at 5.30 on his way to work. DS then woke up and howled for no apparent reason at 6.15 and me getting up to him woke up DD who didn't go back to sleep. Then DS had a full-on meltdown on the way to nursery as I refused to carry his toy, his lunchbox, his bag and his sister and now DD has woken up after 20 mins of a nap and we are supposed to be going swimming later so she'll be knackered and grumpy by the time we get there.

Candr sorry that DH was being a bit needy. I wish mine would take the initiative a bit more too but I have to remind myself that it's just that he really wants to make sure that he's doing it 'right', and I'm the 'expert' so he defers to me a lot. It took DH a very long time to get confident looking after DS and it wasn't until I went back to work and he had to look after him alone that he really realised that he knew what he was doing.

I do make DH work hard on his days off though , I figure being a mum is a 24/7 job so being a dad should be too. But then DH doesn't have a stressful job and neither does he work long hours so it is a bit different. Hope you find some equilibrium soon

Right. DD grizzling so I'd better go and deal with her.

I'm at the front of the curve with the oldest babe so not sure if this will help but my worst sleep to date had been at 24-27wks, babe up loads. I'm really hoping we are turning the corner now 3nights I've put down at 6.30pm, babe slept till11pm fed, then woke 1am and I've ignored her, her cribb is next to the bed but I've rolled to the other side, she has sucked chewed up her bunny upto 30mins but gone back to sleep no real tears just chatty noises, then woken 4am for feed, slept till 6.30/7am :o this is Fab in my world :o I'm sure it all go pear shaped tonight but since she really started to get food in its really helped. If she has nap at home I put her down awake with her bunny comforter, I say nap time walk out the door 90% time she asleep with in 10mins. Her sister was never this good though!

Feral - Grrr to the family indeed! Hope DD enjoyed the swimming after all.

Ssmile - that's great. Hope you have really turned a corner with DD. I must try a comforter - that's a good idea.

Well, second nap didn't work - resorted to getting her up, but I've just put her down again, she did cry for about 15 minutes - which is hell listening too and I'm not sure I'm cut out for this crying it out mehthod but...- I soothed her twice, and she's gone off again, and currently asleep again. Was going to use the time to make some soup, but I'm knackered so thought I'd sit down and check internet instead :) Soup can be done later (I hope) and she only naps for about half hour which isn't quite a enough time for peeling and cooking!

Gorgeous day here... when she wakes up think we'll go for walk :)

Haven't read back properly but skimmed. - sebs - acid reflux doesn't resolve until they are walking so don't understand what hv is telling you - colic resolves but reflux will be at it's worst now - have had two babies who have had it very bad until around 18months.
Have had very ill dd - vomiting and flu type symptoms, I had aches and pains and temp for two days, ds1 nosebleeds. Dh been away on business for two days so I have has three kids and no sleep - he was back for 2 hours (enough time to breathe over all kids) before he started feeling ropey - feels sick and has used all three loos so far in the house in the space of 1 hour (love the way he tries to limit the spread of his germs - but he is too Ill to consider the rest if us !) so sick of winter and germs now - please healthy spring arrive soon !

Sebs - well done on sleep training -I did it with my oldest two even although they had acid reflux so don't let that thought worry you - well done !!!!!!

Can - have you got something to put under tge highchair? Some plastic or even a sheet? Then just shake it out in tge garden.

Seb - as long as you have tge venue there will be a wedding . My top tip for your to do list is to actually walk through tge day, tgat way you won't miss anything iyswim.

With reflux I thought weaning was meant to help too?

Well ds did another inbetweeners/little Briton style vomit over both of us yesterday. Total soaking and change of clothes for both of us and all over the sofa. Only tge second time but bloody hell I hope it doesn't happen when he's just had food.

So yesterday was breakfast, lunch with stewed apple an pears for pud and then tried tea but not interested and he woke as normal at 10:30 but then not till 4 and now at 6 so heading in the right direction.

Night four of my sleep/feed experiment babe only woke 2mins at 1.30am, I gave bunny and tummy pat she then slept till 3.30am, having last fed at 10pm :o I really hope this carries on!

minkyj sending you healthy vibes, there is SO many bugs about at mo, :( its very draining, hope some spring sunshine clears them all away. We've certainly had our fair share since Xmas, joys of having kids at school.

sebs hope you enjoyed your walk. We have had days of sea mist/fog at mo so its been bit glum ere.

Hi all,

Lots to catch up on, hope all those feeling poorly are doing ok and those with dh/dp's being a bit numptyish are doing better now.

100 can't believe your lo stood up, that's amazing and so exciting! :)

sebs yay to the wedding news! How exciting! We are supposed to be getting married soon but just got to settle on a place and pick a date, think nerves are stopping me!

Glad to hear of all the weaning success, we are still doing well with lo polishing off a huge bowl of porridge and banana every day for the past few days! Think I need to start introducing a few other foods now tho as we have overdone fruit and veg purées now! She'll be six months on Monday so the time is right to get cracking with some new foods - I can't wait!

Also gradually trying to get her to take a bottle and/or cup as I'm going back to work in the second half of April, this has been met with limited success but I expected that really! To be honest she's not that bothered about milk in general anymore as she just loves food too much! Ha ha!

Nice to hear that there are some sleeping success stories out there, we have had some really rubbishy nights but amazingly I managed to settle lo in her cot last night and I couldn't believe it! She always feeds to sleep at her last feed so I was really puzzled as to how I would get her to settle from awake at night - however last night I took the plunge and took her up to bed drowsy after her feed but didn't let her go off completely and settled her in her cot, it took ten minutes of singing and stroking but I was jumping for joy that we did it! She slept from 7.30 till about 11.30 which is when she usually wakes at the moment had a quick feed and then back down till 5.30! I could not believe it and I was up at 1.30am to check that all was ok!! :)

So just to push my luck I have also settled her in her cot this morning for a nap. She'd been awake since 5.30 had lots of playtime and had her breakfast at 8 so was ready for sleep, she started to go to sleep on me like normal but instead I took her up and amazingly after 20 minutes I have settled her again! I nearly gave up as there was lots of manic flinging around and kicking her legs but suddenly she just went off! She's been up there for 50 mins now and I can't quite believe it and hoping its not a fluke!

Sebs just wanted to say that your lo sounds very much like mine as she would only sleep on me when rocked and then even got totally fed up with even sleeping in our bed the other day and I was at the end of my tether as didn't know how to settle her! My lo also does thrash around a lot and although she does have reflux I think the thrashing is normally when she is overtired and needs calming down. Sounds like you are turning the corner with sleeping now though so fingers crossed that our new regimes will become routine! :)

Hopefully she'll stay asleep and let me catch up on one born every minute now! :o

Hope you all have lovely days, looks like it's going to be lovely and warm to make us all feel better and spring like!

Xx

Wow, isn't this great with all the self-settling and some better nights!

I have some similar small success to report too; last night DD woke when I went to bed so I fed her and then again at 2.45am which is pretty normal. She woke up as I put her back in her cot so I figured I'd see what she did. Cue one hour of her flinging herself around, head-butting the cot and doing her latest noise ("mmmm-mmmm-mmm"). I eventually just put on the white noise and put my ear-plugs in and went back to sleep so I don't know how long it took but she did settle herself without crying. So we are one very tiny fairy-step down the long long road to a proper night's sleep: hurrah!

She has just eaten her biggest meal yet: a shed load of broccoli, some home-made mushy peas and bread sticks and about three tablespoons of baby pasta with vegetable sauce followed by yoghurt And also drank water out of a doidy cup without it going everywhere (and lots of fun lowing bubbles in it too ) She must've been really hungry because she actually let me spoon feed her some of the pasta which is also a first!

Minky - hope the germs go soon... I know what you mean... roll on Spring and warmth (like the other day... today's been murky :( )
Loves - boo to the vomit!!! Thanks for the tip re the Wedding - that's a good idea...
Ssmile, Sarah and Feral - YAY :) to starting on the road to better sleeps! Ssmile - sounds like your way down the road - well done.

And, Feral - at the meal!!! I'm sure my LO would just keep on eating too, and it's hard to know how much to give her. She loves her food - well except hummous - she really turned her nose up at it but I'm going to try her again with it! I'm still shocked she had spinach (well disguised with other foods though!!)

Well, so far she's managed to fall asleep 4 out of the 5 times I've put her down in her cot bed for a daytime nap. Mind you, that's after much crying, and it's killing me to hear it. Must admit though, I was crying my eyes out this morning (at around 5ish) when I realised that the poor thing hasn't a clue how to sleep on her own and I feel it's my (or rather mine and OH) fault for not helping her. We've rocked her to sleep and jumped up to her at her every whimper simply to not have her wake up and then cry and wake the other two kids up. I now wish I'd been more robust with her, but hindsight is a wonderful thing and it's been a needs must. But now her needs are paramount and she has to learn... so on with the "training". The kids will be going to their Mum's tomorrow night for about a week as OH goes to Algeria again for 3 nights next week so it'll be a good week to implement this at night too (and OH will be there till Monday night so I won't be doing this alone too). I just hope it really does work as other's have said (or I've read).

Sorry, going on there... just feeling like a crap mum :( On the plus side, her weaning is going great!! And, she's at that lovely grab everything stage - a piece of paper or card can keep her happy for ages!!

Looking forward to my first Mother's Day... especially as I normally dread this day and have done for years (as I lost my mum 10 years ago)... so this one will be a bit special :) Hope you all looking forward to it too, and we all get a little lie in, and little bit pampered :)

hello, ive been away for far too long!!

just scanning through- so many ups and downs..... wow to some of the ups-weddings and babies racing ahead!! sorry to those with 'downs', i hope you all come through them soon and see the light on the other side xx

the begining of may we're having our wdding blessed in church and lo baptised at the same time :) very excited but also panicking because i need to sort out party for it and....when its over it will only be a week before i go back to work :'(

still b'feeding lo, but also want to give formula in th evening and get him into his own room in the next few weeks, couldnt get him to take it from a bottle, then he took it from a cup but the flow was too fast so brought another cup today but as he's not been well yesterday or today (luckily now keeping milk down) i havent attempted it.

dh got a call yesterday, getting his piles chopped off under general anaesthetic on wednesday, (going to be a lonely birthday 4 me on saturday) then hopefuly will be ok for us to go away visiting relatives just over a week later

our 4year old ds1 is now dry in pants at night, yay :)

sebs YOU ARE NOT A CRAP MUM!!!!! I have done exactly the same this time around- he'd be crawling by now if I wasnt constantly cuddling him :/ they will learn these things though, and making the most of cuddles must be great for us and lo's - right? i've flicked through a few baby sleep books that i've got free with magazines, but i couldnt do what they say. perhaps if you've read things you could take bits you like from them and find something that works for both of you? a friend of mine has a little girl who's almost 1year old and still sleeps in a cot at the end of their bed as she cant stand her crying etc, she's happy that way though and i dont think she (my friend, not lo) is ready for the move quite yet x

Sebs, you do what you have to do and you follow your instincts; that makes you a good mum not a crap one! Babe will sort herself out soon and it'll all be worth it.

Hurrah and welcome back Jimmi. Is it your b'day tomorrow or next Saturday? If tomorrow, then hope you have a lovely day and a great 48 hours of celebration through Mother's Day too! Ouch to the piles though!

V excited about Mother's Day; now that I've got two kids, I should get double the lie-in, double the chocolate and double the pampering, right? Last year it was also my Mum's birthday and so we had to go out and I was feeling totally rubbish with a migraine. Hopefully this year will be a bit more enjoyable.

Debs I know what you mean about hindsight, dd slept through from 8 weeks whereas I don't want ds to wake dd up. Or is this just nature vs nurture? Tge HV is firmly on nature so think I agree