April 2011 - Food Glorious Food, Sleep Glorious Sleep <subtle key change> They're our babies, we'll obsess if we want to!

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Thread 4 - that's one a month!

Happy Birthday Arch.

Even without all the other shit, this birthday must be particularly difficult for you.

Tell your dh he has been thoughtless and an arse. It is ok to be angry at him and it is ok to tell him so. I'm not talking about a shouting match Eastenders style, but he does need to be told.

Like Ali said, try and enjoy your birthday regardless and make your own memories with the dc.

Kitty - I know someone sister had a website selling the bibs, but I can't remember who it was, doah. I bought some called bubble, if you google t you'll find the site.

Another shite night.wakings at 1, 2, 4 and 5

Although today baby I attempted crawling, so I think that has something to do with it. I wish this developmental stuff would hurry up and fuck off quite frankly!

I won't be doing Weight Watchers yet. At the moment I just need to cut down on the treats and move my carcass around more. then when I stop bf'ing I'll apply myself. From experience it's twice as hard to shift the lard whilst feeding.

Glad to hear it wasn't 4 pounds Star. I thought that sounded a lot!

Happy birthday arch! I'm sorry it not had the best start. I agree with alis idea though. And aybe a wee word with your not so dh. Make plans for the weekend. And be like the queen and have 2 birthdyas.

Still on mobile internet. I nowhave confirmation someone will call tomorrow morning. They arentt getting a snog either! mrswajs I don't work on the phones thank god! So don't worry about shouting at me!
I've just had a very nice visit to the baby clinic. B is sticking to his. Centile nidely and my hv was very supportive of me doing blw! Even had some tips! I was expecting a lecture! I think its because I don't going in asking advice and I'm confident. As soon as you show weakness I think they pounce. So I can only thank you ladies because you are the reason I have the confidence. Apologies for the bad spelling.

Hello all!

arch you poor pickle! Happy birthday and sorry it has been so rubbish and also such a stark reminder of your mum too. I hope your day improves and lamb shanks sounds fab. Mmmm. Yeah, tell DH you were a bit gutted, sounds as though he's not really given it enough thought.

Kitty 4oz is a lot better! Glad you had a better night too.

Ali hope you're ok, sounds like a stressful time but good that you had a better day. Hope things go well.

C doesn't self settle and I keep worrying that I need to get him to, for nursery. At the moment he is good at indicating he's tired with an eye rub but I hold him until he drops off and then put him in the cot. It only takes a minute or two but now I know it's easier than leaving him to cry, which would be the alternative, so I tend to do it for an easy life. I guess I am going to have to try to get him to self settle though. He does it fine in the night - I can't see who said it but I think it's the same, I want to go to sleep so I don't hold him.

Had a crappy night here with wake up for feeds at 11pm and 1pm and then he woke up at 3am and wasn't hungry but didn't want to go back to sleep so I took him in with us, which means I don't sleep well as I am worried about him getting trapped under a pillow. Where have my nights of only one wake up for a quick feed from 7pm to 7am gone? What's so annoying is that he minces about with his bottles during the day, it can take ages to get three bloomin' oz down him and then he's awake at night, hungry. He usually isn't fussed about the morning bottle coz he's still full. Maybe I need to start trying to get him back to sleep without feeding. I've been reluctant to do that as I thought it was better to ensure he was growing well but he's 7 months today and waking as much as a newborn! Maybe it's teething....

Chilli hope the bump goes down! I often leave C propped up on the sofa and really must stop now he's pretty much rolling.

So, the highchair has arrived. My house is Officially Too Small.

House?! Ha, my flat is minuscule!

Arch, that sounds like a pants birthday morning. My dad was really low when he hit 49 as that's the age his dad died at, don't underestimate how much it'll affect you, even if it's subconscious. I'd suggest you text your DH and let him know you're not feeling great. If he's stressed about money surely he could at least give you time for a long luxurious bath or something by watching the kids?

Have a on me (guard that tasty sounding bottle with your life) and don't be afraid to demand some special treatment.

Happy birthday Arch sorry it hasn't started well :( My DP is no better, I got zilch for my birthday this year, like yourselves due to money worries but he had just been made redundant so I didn't think I could really justify going too mad at him! Still, a small token gesture would have been good. Its now a standing joke in our house that I'm still waiting for my birthday present 8 months down the line!! I think he was a bit put out yesterday that I'd got him 4 presents, I told him to deal with it, be a bit more grateful and to make a better effort next year for me!! I think it all stems from his mum who doesn't get him anything for his birthday or Christmas! Apparently he has children now so he doesn't need gifts? She also tried to tell me I shouldn't give him anything either but I told her what she could do with that, just because she does things one way doesn't mean I have to follow suit!!
I'm havering again but I hope you manage to have a lovely day with your DC and don't worry about the house, mine is clarty too

Clarty house here also, it is like a student den.

Not sure what clarty is but pretty sure my flat qualifies too. I'm still letting most housework slide and I don't think I can stretch out the 'I have a new baby' excuse much longer.

Arch Happy Birthday. Sounds like it is a really tough one this year and I hope your DH pulls his finger out and makes a little more of an effort before the day is out. Wine and lamb shanks sounds delicious!

Self settling here is hit and miss. I did PUPD to get it happening as I needed to be able to put S in her cot and get back to DS when we're at home, and she's never fed to sleep more's the pity

I spent a day at home where each time she was ready for a sleep I put her in her cot and sat next to her, when she started to get upset I picked her up, rocked her until she calmed down and seemed sleepy again and then put her down again. First time it took 20 mins (felt like longer) and 3 PUPD's until she fell asleep and each nap after it got shorter. Took about a week before I was able to put her in the cot and just walk out of the room.

The self settling 'breaks' though everytime something else is going on - so teething, overtired, undertired, when rolling started etc and can sometimes take a few days of rocking/singing/shsshing when needed to get back on track. I personally wouldn't worry about forcing it if you don't have to and don't worry about people telling they should be doing it by now. Just because they don't now doesn't mean they never will.

Ha! Another one with a clarty house (I think). Must admit that it's not a word we use in the north west but if it covers unwashed dishes, an unmade bed, a carpet that's in need of vacuuming and quite a lot of dust, I'm in!

Happy Birthday Arch. Sorry that your DH has been so rubbish - hopefully your day has started to improve by now though.

I've been trying to encourage some self settling today and it's been hideous! I'm using the techniques in the No Cry Sleep Solution and even they seem too much for P! Stage one is barely self settling TBH. It involves rocking her until she's practically asleep and then putting in her cot and hugging and rocking her in that until she dozes off. Even this gentle method has taken an hour for one nap and 45 minutes for another. The naps only lasted for 30 minutes each, so I feel like I shouldn't have bleeding bothered! I'm telling myself it's a marathon and not a sprint and all that jazz .

I've been struggling to sleep again for the last few nights. It's really frustrating because P has been sleeping pretty well (touch wood) - it's just me that can't manage it. I'm truly knackered today. Think I might make an appointment with the GP for some advice if it continues.

Right, I need to pull my finger out and start tackling the clartiness (is there such a word?!) before DH gets in!

All this talk of self settling meant I bit the bullet this afternoon. H was clearly sleepy and, after he'd fed, when he starting bobbing on and off boob with exhaustion and starting whinging I put him in the cit instead of rocking/attempting more milk. He cried (tired cry) but I kept putting him on his side (he only really sleeps on his side), rubbing his back, shushing and singing to him. A long 10 minutes passed and he fell asleep!

Not ideal but although he cried he never got super distressed and I just feel like I have to start this stuff now that we're weaning him. He can't keep relying on boob

Wish my DP was like yours MrsW, my DP is the one who 'can't stand to hear him cry' and gets all upset and feels like he has to cuddle him and fuss over him whenever he whimpers.

No self settling here. Sling (and stay slung) daytime or boob or rock at night. I plan to try operation cot soon burnt if he doesn't get it in a few days we'll stop and try again in a few weeks. it's nit really an issue yet though so I'm not rushing.

Happy birthday arch tell your H what a prat he's been.

On phone so can't namecheck properly but the bib shop had dinosaur in the name!

Clarty here too!! Between me and you MsW we'll have this lot spikkin' proper in nae time!!

I'm back online!! No snogging took place, he didn't have his own teeth :o. The last openreach guy that came here to install the line was a bit of alright, but they sent his grandad this time! I don't know what to do first!! DH's birthday is on Monday so I need to do moonpig cards, plus my dads friend came through with the Man U tickets, so I need to think of something witty to write in his card. Tics are for the Sunderland Game on 5th November, so was trying to think of a rhyme along the lines of Remember remember the 5th of November....... but my poetic skills are somewhat lacking!! So if any of you have any idea please feel freee to share! I have 100s of emails, most of which are bumff but need to go through them to make sure I've not missed something important!

Oh, I have my life back! All is good with the world!

Fizz - a perfect thread for MN, make up a poem with Black Cats (Sunderand) & Red Devils, and maybe old trafford in.

eg
Remember remember the 5th of november
when sunderland came to old trafford
the black cats thought they were in with a chance
but the devils were dum-diddy-dah-bord

Got stuck at the end obv

For Emma. Not sure who u are on here, I can't access the spreadsheet and didn't want to put this on fb. Breast milk will clear up the gammy eye! It worked on s!

JKS thanks for the tip! Thread here!

Haha thank you Kitty would you care to fed ex me some breast milk? I gave up expressing a long time ago!! But thanks for that I've just been bathing it in cooled boiled water. I think it might have been caused by a glob of strawberry and apple puree a few days ago!!

Haha. Sure why not Ive heard chamomile tea is good too. Make it, leave it to cool then soak

Love the thread Fizz We have Arch to thank for "clarty", you for "gurn" and I'll need to throw a few more words around I think. Although I think I dropped "havering" in earlier.
Some of my more nothern fb friends crack me up with their status' they write exactly as they would speak ie - "wonder fit I'll de imorn, es weathers nae up til much"

TBH when a weird word pops up, i just assume it's a typo!

what's havering then?

I thought it was hoovering but a typo!

Is it like ponder? Proclaimers haver in '500 miles' that was the last song at our wedding

Havering is to speak nonsense

That's a new one on me. Never heard it before! I love local dialect words though, so keep them coming!

The omens aren't great for a good night here. P went down at 7 but has already woken twice, which is pretty much unheard of nowadays. Feeding hasn't worked, so DH is trying to settle her.

I'm soooooo tired. I don't need this tonight . Wish me luck for later...

Good luck star. S fell asleep on me at 7 but woke when I out hom down and cried pretty much non stop til I fed him. Put him down he woke and started chatting. Just rocked him and waiting for him to be sleepy enough to try again.

T has been down for about an hour, his teeth are really bothering him tonight, poor little chap. Much Dentinox has been used!

I have done something to my foot rocking him, it bloody kills

Maybe rub some dentinox on your foot ali! It really numbs, I sucked the leftover glob off my finger and the lisped my way through a convo with DH! If it make you feel better my hips and legs are agony after walking to and from the health centre today!

Does england the minor ailments scheme? You can get dentinox and ashton & parsons (if they ever get any in) plus calpol for free from the chemist here. I was impressed!