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August 2011 - a place to wAit until the rest graduate !

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MrsVidic · 08/08/2011 07:25

Hi,
Thought I would start us a postnatal thread. Were still in hospital, here till Tuesday monitoring dd (now named Eva) and giving her the anti biotics. Im missing dd1 loads as I only get to see her at visiting and trying to contain a toddler on the ward is tough.

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littlemisslozza · 12/09/2011 10:53

I wouldn't express sarge because it will make you produce more milk and you'll probably wake up leaking and engorged.

neverlookback · 12/09/2011 14:35

ive bought the pumo thinking i will express some for evening occasionally, so that i can go to bed and dp can give her a feed, she cluster feeds in the eve at the mo and its quite relentless can barely get a shower in or get the others to bed, and then maybe my alterior motive so that i can have a drink when i have the energy to have more than one glass of wine!!

Also with her needing feeding just as its the school run i could have a backup to take with me! i dont fancy flopping my boob out in the playground!!

but i am aprehensive as to what it will do to my supply, i have a lot of milk as it is.

neverlookback · 12/09/2011 15:19

oops i meant pump not pumo!

Eviepoo · 12/09/2011 17:05

neverlookback I have a lot of milk during the night and in the morning (as she does have longer between feeds at night) so I express early on (sometimes in the night if I wake leaking). Then I use this to get a wee break from the cluster feeding in the evening. 4-5 hours of on/off feeding makes me feel tender and empty and stuck to the couch. Besides DD1 and DH like to give her the expressed bottle (I usually only do 80-100ml).

sarge well the sun only lasted a wee while. it's horrific weather again. DH came home for lunch - I took him back to work and kept the car. I went out for a coffee and headed home. She isn't really liking the car seat and I am trying to do a few short journeys to get her more settled with it. Heading back out soon to pick up DH and get some diesel.

majormoo · 12/09/2011 18:48

Congratulations Annie and Kt. Good god what a big baby Kt!
Large my ds3 has been feeding very frequently and although I an exhausted am holding out for a couple more weeks til I am relying on things calming down. My DD used to feed in the same way and the constant feeding drove me mad. Now she is 8 she still eats loads but loves sleeping! It is hard doing it for the first time as you are so desperate to get things right but really I think everyone just muddles through.
You have years ahead of you of bath, milk, story, teeth, bed etc so I reckon enjoy your baby while you can be a bit flexible. Talking of which off to get the others to bed

CappuccinoCarrie · 12/09/2011 20:50

Congrats annie and kt! What a finish to our ante-natal thread with such an enormous baby and a wonderful water birth! annie hope you get the closure you need on your birth too.
For those wanting some structure, we're doing the baby whisperer (with the intention of moving on to GF by three months as I have with my other two) and its great. I'm not a very intuitive parent and need all the help I can get, and the pattern of eat, awake, sleep in a 3 hour cycle really helps organise their body clocks.
I'm also having school run issues though, there's no way I can stop DS2 falling asleep in the pram for the 45min round journey morning and afternoon, so I have to organise the rest of the day around knowing that he'll nap then.
I really want to know how much he weighs, having had his tongue-tie snipped at 8 days he then put on 13oz in the next 6 days Shock so I guess he's over 10lb now. All the newborn clothes are back in the loft and he's only 2 weeks old!
Great to hear how well everyone is getting on and enjoying their babies, and they are all beautiful :)

alibaba76 · 12/09/2011 22:20

Not been on here for an age, just been so busy with my new arrival. Lewis Hamish was born on 28 Aug, 7.58am by CSection, weighing 7lb 13 oz.

Here is my mammoth birth story if you fancy a read...

After 2 unsuccessful sweeps at 1cm dilated (midwife didn't think I'd need 2nd sweep never mind getting to the induction appointment!) I had to be induced. So on Friday 26 August in I went. I thought it would be quick - in, examined, pessary, home. But it took hours. Monitoring, examination & pessary, half an hour lying on side to ensure pessary stayed in, monitored again. While being monitored, I had to lie almost flat on my back which was extremely uncomfortable, especially when I had to get up again. Anyway after 4½hrs we went home. 12hrs later contractions started although it took me an hour or so to realise what was happening. So on went the TENS machine. After a few hours I rang triage just to see if I should take the pessary out, they said no. I decided to go to bed and try to sleep and I think I actually did manage to between contractions. The pain was manageable and I certainly could have withstood more. I kept the TENS on all night. At 6am while on a trip to the loo, the pessary came out and basically the contractions stopped. As I was due to go back onto hospital the next day anyway to have the pessary removed, I decided to keep that appointment. So I went in, explained that the pessary had fallen out and was told the ward was full so to go for a walk for an hour and a half and then go back. When I went back there was another half hour wait and then I was hooked up to be monitored again. After that I was examined and now 2-3cms dilated, so at least the pessary/contractions had done something. So I was to have my waters broken and waited on a bed in labour ward, which came up very quickly.

So up in labour ward I was examined again and my waters were broken. After midwives consulting and further examinations they agreed that there was merconium in the waters and so I had to be monitored for the remainder of the labour. Contractions began again, so TENS was back on and I sent DH home to feed the cat and have his own tea.

In just over an hour he came back and the situation had completely changed. While he'd been away my contractions had increased beyond belief. Every time I moved I set another one off and there were little or no breaks in between each one. After a while of this I mentioned the epidural word to the midwife but she convinced to try paracetamol and dihydracodine first. After nearly an hour they had barely dented the pain and so I got my epidural. By this point I couldn't move and could only stand immobile while the contractions came in waves. I couldn't speak or be touched either. Thankfully the anaesthetist arrived very quickly and got the job done and I was soon much more comfortable but bed bound.

So my body laboured away while I felt no pain and tried to sleep. I got the epidural topped up anytime I wanted it and was getting regular examinations to check on my progress. I got to 8cms and nothing happened for a while so they got the oxytocin drip going. After a while I still hadn?t progressed so they tried laying me on my left. This created a problem as baby?s heartbeat dropped dramatically so they tried my right but heartbeat still didn't pick up. So all the doctors were now running in and it was a bit of a blur but I remember someone giving me am oxygen mask and then the doctor talking about monitoring the heart by using a probe on baby?s head. My instincts were that now that I was on my back again, he would be ok so I asked her to give us a minute and the heart returned to normal. I really didn't fancy that probe thing! While I had been on each side though, another problem had been discovered... I had developed pressure sores on my backside (bed sores). More on that later!

So after another hour or so on the oxytocin I was examined again but there was still no movement and so at about 7.30am they suggested caesarean. So after throwing up a few times, off we went to theatre. The section went well and Lewis was born at 7.58am. He was covered in merconium (looked like curry sauce) but cried straight away which was a good sign. He was cleaned up, I was stitched up and off we went to recovery then onto the ward.

As I had a catheter in I was bed bound for 24hrs so other people did the nappy changes and he was brought to me for feeding. Unfortunately we had big problems feeding as he wouldn't open his mouth wide enough. I was quickly shown how to hand express while one of the nursery nurses syringed the colostrum from me. In the meantime Lewis developed the newborn rash but it was quite severe so each doctor who came referred it to a colleague. About 4 doctors saw him before they were satisfied it was nothing more serious. He also developed a temperature which had people worried and I was warned to prepare myself for him going to neonata,l however another of the nursery nurses thought that it was all down to dehydration and so I decided that he should get topped up with formula because of the breastfeeding issues. This did the job quite quickly but as the feeding was still an issue the top ups continued for a few days.

In the meantime countless doctors and specialist nurses had been down to look at my behind. It was something that had happened to another few women recently during childbirth and so was of great concern. Mine was the worst so far though. Thankfully it wasn't painful, but I had to stay off of it, which is quite difficult when you're recovering from a caesarean!

On day 2 I had a total meltdown. A midwife was in trying to help Lewis latch on for a feed. I was worried about his rash and temperature, which hadn?t yet been sorted out and he was crying with hunger and frustration. It was heartbreaking as there I was ready to feed him but it just wasn?t working. I just burst into tears. It was probably the lowest moment so far.
After 2 nights on the ward a lovely midwife got me my own room and the next day I had a shower which took ages but was so worth it. The feeding issues continued but small progress was being made every day. My butt was still of concern but was getting the correct treatment and the best news was that Lewis' temperature was back to normal and his newborn rash was reducing day by day.

After 2 nights in my own room and after loads of great feeds on my last day (no more formula) I finally got home. I was in hospital for a total of 5 nights. Much longer than normal even for a CSection.

Lewis dropped from 7lb 13 at birth to 7lb 1, but at his first weighing in the house was 7lb 10 and at just 11 days old he was weighed again at 8lb 5. So the breast feeding is paying off.
The district nurse also still calls in to check my butt and change the dressings (the sores have a terrible smell!) and has shown DH how to do it too so that they can be changed whenever I want. The right side is now healed, but the left will take 2-3 more weeks we think.

I am amazed at the level if care I received at the hands of the NHS. The staff I have encountered were all amazing. I had someone with me for every single feed in the early days and if I hadn't been in hospital for so long I know that I'd have given up on the breast and gone to the bottle, so maybe things happened for the best.

Rootatoot · 13/09/2011 13:37

Helloooo everyone - I found you all at last! I've not had much time to pop online of late (strange that!?) but we're doing ok. Harry is now 6 weeks old. I'm still bf and he's piling weight on. To say he was 3 weeks early and only just 6lb, he is now 9lb 8oz and doing great.

I'm utterly knackered with his frequent feeds and my insomniac DH who is struggling to find a routine, but we've progressed from wanting to kill each other in the first 3 weeks so at least things are getting a bit easier! :)

Congrats to all of you who have had your babies and winter & evie & eveyrone I chatted to regularly on the pg threads, I'm glad you're still on here and hope I can catch up with your posts v soon.

Little man is now grumbling again so I'd better go but hope you are all v well. Will try and figure out how to put a pic up too!

x0x

WinterLover · 13/09/2011 15:28

Hi root Grin Grin

DS is now 7 weeks old. Got him weighed last week at 6+4 and he had gone from 6lb 3oz at birth to 9lb 5oz so I was a very happy mummy. They still want be to go fortnightly to check him over but he's doing so well Grin

Eviepoo · 13/09/2011 18:46

Hi root glad that you made it here!

6 weeks!! and 7 Weeks for you winter my goodness time goes fast. Sounds like the boys are putting on weight very well Grin
Grace was weighted a week ago (12 days and was 9lb 2oz - so only 1oz below birth weight) I think I will go to the clinic next thursday when she is 4 weeks for a weigh in and length measurement. I am guessing by then she will be 10lb+ as she is a happy wee guzzler :)

Grace is 19 Days old today and changing by the day I am snapping pictures like you would not believe. I have only got round to putting some on my profile a couple of days ago though.

I am so lucky she is a night time sleeper, she is now settling into a 2 - 2.5 hour gap between feeds during the day then a 4 hour evening cluster feed, then a long sleep (last night was longer than 6 hours - I was amazed) a long feed and then another 2-3 hours. Yes I know - I am counting my blessings and making the most of this while it lasts. She's now having awake times (awake and not feeding I mean) too, sometimes for an hour or so.

I still can't help looking at her, I just love her so much. I have two gorgeous daughters and I am blessed (even if I had to punish the oldest for swearing today!!...her argument - 'I'm at high school now and everyone swears' she's only 11!!). I am worried that I am softening up to the thoughts of another baby, DH keeps saying we may as well, another like Grace would be lovely, but Lauren was a bad sleeper, another Labour like Laurens would be fine, not an induction resulting in agony like with Grace. Oh and I'm not sure I could do another 9 months of sickness/reflux/heartburn hell and months of glucose testing and injecting myself again.....but they grow so fast and they are so beautiful.

ok I recognise the I want food grunting - best go xx

Eviepoo · 13/09/2011 19:00

oh also wanted to say to alibaba76 your induction sounds crap, I had one which was bad (although not as bad as yours sounds), I hope gazing at your gorgeous wee boy is helping you forget the bad bits now. x

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Firawla · 13/09/2011 20:01

awww sarge poor you!
alibaba congrats!!! sounds like u had a really difficult time with the birth i hope you are all recovered quickly, sores sounds really painful!
nice to hear how all the babies are growing, i keep meaning to weigh rafiq i think i will just do it tonight at home, he seems to have gone a lot bigger so curious to see how much he's put on. i've had to put away some of his tiny newborn clothes earlier this week, so definitely seems to be growing quick

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Eviepoo · 13/09/2011 20:45

Oh sarge it's ok we all do things like that at times

I have a question for you ladies.

One of my stretch marks is a bit of a problem, (an old one from DD1) a couple of times in PG it turned into kinda like a spot - with pus. Then at the end of PG it became quite a blob and itchy and sore. The MW who visited me at home suggested soaking a plaster pad in breastmilk. It certainly helped it go down after a day or two and I have just ignored it. Well now it is a bigger lump than ever (about side of penny round and sticks out about 1/2 a cm). It looks full of blood and gone purple, it's right where my pants sit. Seems a daft thing to go to the doctors about - when so many people need appointments for more important things but I need to get rid now. I think I will try the breast milk thing again.

Do you think I should wait for my 6 week check-up (not til 6th Oct) or go to doc before then?

ssmile · 13/09/2011 22:39

eviepoo if u worried get it checked out. Can your HV look at it first? I've had stretch marks that have come up in large spot things that don't respond to a squeezing makes them worse, I've just had to leave them be, but this was prepreg.

sarge :o Heehee oh yes we've all forgotten purse at sometime. I've worked on checkoute for yrs when a student and I had someone everyshift do it, we had special button to store transaction and people came back paid later &collected their shopping.

My worst BF story with DD1 was answering the door to postman with one nipple hanging out as hadn't put it away post feed, was winding babe forgot about it Blush :o

MrsVidic · 14/09/2011 13:54

Ssmile I have done the exact same thing to my window cleaner Grin I'm sure he avoids eye contact now! However, he rang my bell yesterday to tell me I'd left my keys in the door Blush

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neverlookback · 14/09/2011 14:02

alibaba wot a tough induction, and bed sores they sound terrible you poor thing, take it easy x

sarge the breast pad bit made me laugh which i say thank you for cos im having a really crap down day today!! me and dp have really fallen out, we just dont get on at all at the moment, i feel like im constantly competing with this work and i always loose, hes just never here for me when i need him and hes missing out on his childrens lives! he is basically a workaholic, he went to work at 6am on monday and came back at 7am on tues with 1 text to say he was going to be very late, i did my first 24 hours with 3 kids on my own it was a killer with dd feeding all the time. ah well hope everyone else is OK x

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MrsVidic · 14/09/2011 15:55

never hope your day goes quickly! Dp and I are having little rows recently too, to be honest it's because were both tired. Luckily he is on leave this week and we are getting on a lot better. I just need him to realise that Eva doesn't cry just because she's hungry- he can pick her up too without waiting for me! He's getting more confident now so it's getting better.

Anyone else feel like a milk machine- my let down is fierce and sprays dd in the face when she has a break as the flow is so strong!

Dds colic is a lot better as I've totally changed my dairy intake to try to eliminate lactose. She has bad acne- at what point will it go/ should I get worried?

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wishwales · 15/09/2011 09:30

Just popping in to say hello to everyone. I am not sure where I belong on Mumsnet. I enjoyed my time in the August ante-natal group with you all but since Morgan was born on June 8th (8 weeks early) it has been hard to relate. Now that things are evening out because all the wonderful August ladies now have babies, I thought I would stop by :)

Morgan is now 8lbs 14ozs (birth weight was 3lbs 7ozs) and growing beautifully. We have been so fortunate that she seemed to escape most of the potential health problems that could have come with her prematurity. Poor thing has severe colic, reflux and constipation which has been a nightmare for all of us. I feel bad complaining about this because we are really so lucky otherwise. We have the HV and a nurse from NICU out every week. And we see the GP weekly and the peditrician regularly as well as a referral to an NHS massage therapist to come to our flat. The support is unbelievable but she is still struggling so much.

Bonding is not happening like it is for most of you. There are only a few minutes in a day when she is awake and not crying, winging, hurting and this leaves little time to 'enjoy' her. I feel terrible...She is never a happy baby and hasn't even smiled yet.

Does anyone else not feel this overwhelming, gushing love for their newborn? I feel guilty and sad about it but she is in a lot of ways still an alien to me.

MrsVidic · 15/09/2011 10:48

Wishwales dd1 i love with all my heart as with dd 2 but is was Definatley not immediate with dd1.

I was just so shocked by the enormity of it all + quick birth + she was not a brilliant sleeper. But slowly without me realising the love grew- it had always been there as I'm sure yours is but you have so much going on you won't realise it. Babies are bloody hard work, the first 3 months are about survival but it gets so much easier to feel close to them the older they get. They just take, take and take at first and it's exausting and infuriating at times but then they start to do things- first smile, first laugh etc.

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