June mummies '05 thread 7 -The one with their first Christmas

[katzglitterytree]

hello all

come and join us new and old junies

Cratchit-that's a lovely poem.

Jonah-I'm the same and not steralising any bowls or spoons.Everything is going into Ds's mouth-even his little boots,so seems a waste of time.I am still steralising bottles though.

evening i am now armed with lists so christmas shopping should go smoothly...

child asleep, dh cooking, wine glass in hand i am ready to relax, lets see how long for

skyler - i believe unsolicited advice is an occupational hazard of motherhood, strangely, it appears not of fatherhood - old ladies just look on disaprovingly and wonder where the wife is, and young ones flirt, or so they think.
still its better than pregnancy when strangers feel like they can touch you.

trib - never sterilised a thing when weaning. only do breast pump and bottles or cup if she is drinking milk out of that. never a problem.

lummox - dd never sleeps longer than 30-45 min 2 maybe 3x a day. and she pretty much sleeps well, only waking up about once a night.
am also fascinated by your doctors advice.

cratchit- nice poem

giddy - hope everyone gets better, make sure that when man flu goes you get some proper 'me' time

eym- hugs you tough cookie you

Yes, ladies, trying to work out why I thought sterilising was important when I let ds chew on the remote control (etc). Don't know really! Bottles are different because of the milk, I guess.

Lovely poem Cratchet. Made me cry .
Oh yes Trib, don't sterilise for feeding, but I do think it is recommended for the bottles like you say. If it is any consolation I too cannot see what is right in front of my eyes at the moment. I am great at dishing advice out to others though . I feel I should post on here and answer my own problems sometimes lol.
SFX- Hope you got your xmas shopping done. Mine is all sorted and wrapped and posted and it feels great .
Katz - How strange about your dd's rash. What vegetables has she had? Any peas or tomatoes? These can provoke a reaction as well as strawberries or citrus in some. How about trying the allergies threads. Hope all is OK otherwise.
Better night again last night with dd2 only up twice, although dd1 decided to wake me up instead as she had kicked her covers off and couldn't find them again herself. She settled very easily with a cuddle and some water though thankfully.
Right off for a shower now to get the day started. Byeee

Morning, hope all are well.

EYM - nursery thread sounds fab! It's reassuring to think of it from the childminder's point of view I think, I know mine is really experienced, and a lovely person too. I know she'll do well for ds.

Skyler - bought, wrapped AND posted??

Trib - I was reading a thread the other day about sterilising and there were lots of people who only sterilise milk-stuff, which made me realise the same as you - ds shoves everything he can get hold of into his gob, sterilised or not! A few on the thread had been specifically told by SCBU not to sterlise. sterilising thread

Cratchit - lovely poem

Giddy - hope the man flu is improving. Why are men so hopeless when unwell?? Hmph.

Got secret santa gift yesterday , much fun shopping. Knackered today as bad night's sleep. Not ds, who was great, but f*?!ing cats bringing bird in at 2am!!!! Having cats really makes me dislike them, much as I love them other times. Tell dh it was his idea to get them so they are his cats and he can clear up after them. Sadly he could sleep through a bomb going off so it's always me has to get up and catch what they've caught Anyone fancy a couple of cats?? I'd pay postage!!!.....

Hi. Hope you are all well. I'm trying to catch up but i've missed a week so its pretty hard. If anyone can give me a quick update, would be much appreciated though.

Work improved so so much, and although i felt guilty about it, i quite enjoyed being there by the end of the week. I missed ds like mad though obviously. My mum brought him to meet me for lunch on Thursday. He was being ever so good in restaurant, he stayed in his pushchair for most of it, but at the end he was getting upset. So i held him on my lap while i finished the last few chips, and my mum told me that everytime i had a chip he would open his mouth expecting me to give it him, and after the 4th or 5th chip he got upset. Bless him.

SO, today, we have started weaning. Hooray!!!! We've had some cereal with summer fruits and he had ALL of it. I'm so proud of my little boy.

Hope everyone is ok and that our babies are as good and beautiful as ever x

hiya mums just a quickie lol sounds a bit rude

Morning im gald you like the idea about athread ill get strted on int tomoror day of rest for me today i think.

We went to see baby georgia and family they all seem to be copingvery well, and our little girl is 51b 10oz very very good news was so lovely to give my sister a cuddle after feeling so down thie week.

right back later Giddy got your email thanks xxxxx

hello all

right moan coming up so ignore this post if you want. I had just got my head around giving dd2 formula at nursery when she starts in Jan but now with this whole allergy thing hanging over our head si know the best thing is to keep her on the breast.

On a positive note her crawling is coming on leaps and bounds and she now gets up onto all fours and crawls that way too, she sooo fast though.

I can see what you mean, katz, but then again the allergy seems to be caused by something she's already having, so formula may make no odds anyway. Have you introduced anything new, can you go back just to rice and then re-introduce things gradually to challenge the allergy?

i know! but part of the problem is that i don't really want to give up breast feeding at all but had resigned myself to, because i did not want to express at work. i'll just wait and see what we are told on friday and stop playing ammature doctor!

Oh Katz, poor you. Am sure you will already have considered this, but is there anything else that might have contributed to her rash? Different soap powder/bath lotion/wipes. Even something different you're using on YOUR skin like soap, or perfume. Or a relative with a new pet? Sorry, am sure you've thought of all this, but totally sympathise with the conflict between going back to work and breastfeeding.

2many - i have been racking my brains for a cause, really not sure i have a clue, i must stop stressing and see what the hospital say

evening all
had a busy weekend and am more tired than usual. dd has been having some restless nights.
I was woken by this mornings explosion at 6am. incredibly quite far away but sounded and felt so much nearer.

been shopping and think did quite well feeling very christmassy. i must recommend the changing and nursing room in john lewis, not the usual grotty and smelly afterthought i have come to expect.

looking forward to ice skating next weekend, it must be done!

katz- hope you find out soon what this rash is.
troubles - nice you starting to enjoy work and things are settling down
2manny- so, is your tree outside the front door?

good night all

Ladies, just canvassing for opinions on this.

Basically, after a week of work I have realised that I am unlikely ever to want to work full-time whilst ds is a small one. I just can't really imagine not seeing him from morning til night. Now I've only worked for one week, so maybe I will get more used to it, but my gut feeling is that I will not. By dipping into savings, we can afford for me to work part-time only (haven't done the numbers, but I think this is the case) for a while.

What this has made me think is, well, when mini-trib 2 comes along at some point, I will be the same. Maybe, therefore, there is some merit in starting to try for mini-trib 2 sooner rather than later, in order to limit the number of years where both little pips are small (i.e. pre-school).

If I did this, let's say it took a few months to get pregnant (bearing in mind ds was achieved on practically the first try), ds would be c. 18 months when mini-pip was born. Is that completely insane? I do genuinely welcome views on this from you second-timers.

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trib - very much similar feelings here. i think i will be able to wait until june before going back to work.
then i hope to get pregnant and work until maternity leave but then stop work for a couple of years - not at all sure if possible.

we have decided sometime ago that only the 2 of us would be the main carers with some occasional help from family and friends.
we also want a second child and the sooner the better, this has to do with my age and also i feel i want the baby years grouped together.
the only thing is i have to recover enough physicaly, it can be hard with pcos. we thought we'd wait until dd in 10-12 months the go for it.

dh spent the last few years retraining and his work is taking off. i am hoping i can do the same slowly over the next few years and then do some family friendly hrs when school starts.

sorry for length and lack of clarity of post

there was a very good thread some time ago about short gaps to second child

Evening ladies

Been away to visit rellies since thursday so missed loads!

Katz - you're right stop wracking your brains and wait for Doctor...my friend had an allergy problem with her dd (11 months), and rather than get Doctor's assessment she faffed around trying to work it out herself...upshot was 4 months of hell before Doctor came up with answer almost immediately. Hope your Doctor is as good babe

Trib - hmmm the eternal question, when to try for number 2? answer - there's never a right time With ds (3 year gap) I found he was able to understand and help with baby stuff, but was also more jealous than a younger child as he'd been the centre of evereyone's universe for so long. With a small gap you'll get sleepless nights over quicker, hopefully have less jealousy, and it'll be sooner that they're both at school as you say. However you'll also have double lots of nappy changes and an older child still unable to express themselves as clearly as an older toddler. I'm sure there are many more points for and against. The best advice is - whatever is best for your situation (sorry that sounds like a cop out doesn't it!)

So have bought my secret santa pressie, he he he, I hope you like it xxxxx !

Weaning - we don't sterilise spoons/bowls etc either - just bottles because of the bacteria that can grow in warm/off milk...Skyler at the lady weaning on eggs! You do well to keep your own council I can't - one of my biggest faults!

Well done those who've bought all they're pressies... I on the other hand pride my self as being an 11th hour pressie shopper - much more fun that way, tearing around the shops just before they close on xmas eve - great for the adrenalin

Giddy - know just how you feel - we have had an attack of the man flu in the Tea household last week, and today I've come down with that achy sore skin feeling...guess I know what's on my horizon

Oooh today we had one of those Venture piccie sessions. Anyone else had them? My sis bought a family portrait session through boots experiences and it was with Venture. Great day, lots of fun pics shot, all very lively and natural...but was gobsmacked at prices a book of 10 pics for nearly £700!!! or a big pic to go over the mantlepiece for all but £1000. I tell you I'm in the wrong business - think we'll have to make to with the free 10x8 we get with the session, have loads more to be spending a grand on, if we had it!

Just thought I would pop in to bow my head in shame at lack of postings. Have been lurking but kept running out of time to post.

Hope all your winter bugs are getting better and those back at the dreaded work are coping ok, three weeks and two days until I will be that quivering wreck.

EYM - I know everyone has said this already but just remember the good times, how sad you feel now shows how lucky you were to have such a wonderful mum.

DP is away again boohoo, had to go early for a course and won't be back until the 27th . Luckily DD won't know if xmas is a couple of days late.

DD started weaning on Mon and seems to be enjoying everything so far, I'm not really sure of the size of portions I should be giving her though but I start her on two solid feeds tommorrow as per AK. I have discovered that I actually quite like some veggies I had never tried myself before.

DD is now making more word like noisies like dada and bebe which is v. cute.

OMG just realised the time, speak soon
killie xx

A few thoughts quickly.
Trib - I don't think there's a best time to have no 2. It's all worked very well for us with a 3 year gap although that wasn't the plan (I had an m/c imbetween)Dd is inordinately fond of her brother and understands a great deal so causes little trouble. It is hard work but dd is just so wonderful that the thought of having another child even a bit like her spurs me on when things are difficult (although to be honest I'm besotted with ds)
Sterilising - I'm one of those that has never sterilised anything. Bf'd until 6 months and now just wash bottles thoroughly as soon as they're used and don't heat up his milk anyway. Did same with dd and she has always had a very strong constitution - am a firm believer in dirt
Snowfall - can't figure out who you are - am feeling dense this morning though. I agree about John Lewis - I love it there, so well equipped for families. Nice scones too
Katz - I don't know if this helps but I'm really happy with where I am at the moment. Also didn't want to express at work so I feed ds morning and evening and he has formula imbetween. It's working well, just a thought....
Giddy and all with illness in the house - hope you're on the mend. Ds was full of cold over the weekend bless him, but was very loving none the less. He is such an adorable cherub.

I am dense - sfx it's you! Hello!

Hello. Making an effort to stay caught up -- but my work is suffering so not sure if it will last. Anyway...

Oh, number 2, yes many opinons on this front. Personally, I said I wanted the gap big enough so I didn't have to push a double pram. Of course, at 2 years and 2 months, my ambitions were crushed and I had to go buy a double pram. Although, DD does walk most places now.

Venture, yes been there done that. One source of my painful debt problem. We have one big one with a series of three pics and 2 8 x 10s. Sadly, we won't be repeating this photo sesion for DS as it is definitely not in the budget. Also, I think you get a lot more out of venture when the kids are old enough to run, jump, and giggle a lot. So, we might go back in a couple of years... it will take that long to save up for it.

Sterilising, yep, still doing the bottle but don't do anything else.

Has anyone moved up to a sippy cup? Thinking of embarking on this for DS.

Sitting? Your babies are sitting? Well, my placid baby just lies on his back. Doesn't roll ever. But he does try deperately ti sit up from a reclined position but he just keeps on going until he folds in half like big dead floppy fish. Aw, bless my little pudgy boy.

Christmas name. What do you think?

Love it - always thought you were slightly la la anyway

hello all

quite certain its teething now, really bad night waking up every hour and nothing would settle her bar the mighty boob, so dh in spite of goodwill was no help at all, this is a first.

she is also a bit off her food and we back to ince a day, just following her lead really.

cups - dd been using tommee tipee first cup for a while, i introduced it along with solids for her water. in spite of breastfeeding she gets constipated if not sipping water.
on a couple of occasions she drunk without the lid/spout out of necessity (we were out and the lid went on the floor) it was ok but not really trying yet.

i need some rest she is sleeping now hope it does her some good

hope you all ok

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