The CRESH Creche and Spa - What's your excuse for not going back to work?

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Liking maternity leave too much? Can't be arsed to go back to your old job? Why not get made redundant, set up a company, have another baybee or even fall off a horse? Anything to spend more time with our little darlings! And it's so naice here - pass the gin!

Argh. Holidays with kids. When did it all get so complicated? Been trying to sort out a trip away to somewhere warm just to chill for end of September. Plan is to find a villa with a pool and just relax. Don't want to fly, so next nearest option where it might be feasibly warm is the south of France. Somehow or other it seems the only reasonable way to get there, that doesn't mean us losing 2 days travel each way if we drive in the day, or a day's travel each way if we train it, is to drive through the night, which is pretty much what we've now resigned ourselves to doing.

Hopefully Sqiub will sleep all the way...and be kind to mum and dad in the morning so we can recover... Still, I've found a nice gite with a heated pool that's only about 600 Euros for 10 nights, a 2mile walk to a mediaeval village etc.

Rocket I have a friend who flew to India via Dubai when her daughter was 12 months and said it was absolutely fine. They went to spain when she was 18 months and it was an absolute nightmare apparently...

rocket We also found that in his neck creases when he was teeny tiny, seemed that he was dribbling milk and it was settling in to the crease there and of course milk is a marvellous substance for growing scum - full of sugars & nutrients! I just slapped Sudocreme on it but would've put caneston on it had it not disappeared. All these things we learn the "hard way" will of course be a known entity for number 2. Number 2 will of course throw something different at us!

Oh no - there's a dropped butter dish tale on this thread. (page 3)

I just posted and then that appeared two posts later. Am I being chased by dropped butter dishes? What could it mean?

Hello Buggerlugs. Dunno if it helps, but I was cycling the mean streets of London until I was about 30 weeks - only stopped because it made my heartburn really uncomfortable, but I didn't have any problem otherwise with it. Got some funny looks when I turned up at our first ante-natal class on my bike.

Yeah, cycling maternity wear might be tricky...I've always been a pair of leggings and a T shirt kinda girl meself, so not much changed there - just wore maternity leggings. Towards the end I did find I was going slower and got more tired trying to accelerate fast from the lights to race the couriers going up those mountainous hills we have in central London but I just kept at a pace I felt comfortable with. I don't think there's any harm in it - and I deffo think having good stamina helps with getting t'baby out - they don't call it labour for nowt. Keep at it when it happens for as long as you feel comfortable I'd say.

I'm wondering if you don't actually already know cossie being as she too is in Yorkshire and I can't imagine the cycling world is that small. I know she managed to find maternity gear.

we're having our first holiday at the end of the month; a cottage on Skye.

Oooo! Hello buglegs! I am an ex Yorkshire lass too - just moved earlier this year from Ryedale / moors. Where are you? PM me if you like.

cossie will be so pleased to have someone to talk bikes with rather than all the pony talk that goes on here.

meds We had a good cottage holiday on Skye several years ago. BC.

Ah nice muse if you can get to arisaig and mallaig on the mainland from where you will be it's well worth a day trip. Bloody lovely beaches where they filmed Local Hero. Dad took me there years ago on a road trip, I'd love to go back with TB and Sprout one day.

I've not been to either - we come the bridge route from home, but may well take a trip back over. We visited last year the other place they filmed Local Hero in, Pennan on the Moray Coast, which is the village location in the film. Had dinner in Gordon's hotel (called the Pennan Inn). We visited the weekend before I got my line on a stick, held off POASing in case it ruined the weekend!

No way! :-) I'd love to do a local hero road trip but I guess Moray would be a bit of a step from Skye? Loved that film as a kid. I think arisaig is one part of the beach and mallaig is the bit with the church but I could be remembering wrong. I was only 17 when we went.

Rocket, for tips on flying with a youngster talk to Boxer - she knows about this stuff. That said, I really don't get what's so selfish about flying with kids....surely it's selfish to demand that children don't fly . Regardless, with a bit of preparation, a long haul flight with youngster in tow needn't be a problem.

That said, we are off to Dubai in October to visit my sister - 8 hour flight with 3 yr old and 8 month old [gulp]

Am in proper bra also Lights - my frontage is so uplifted my boobs now enter the room 2 minutes before the rest of me.

Glad the Janet mystery is solved....with all the sechs goin' on here there were a lot of suspects

Dunno clucky it's one of those things you think before having children. Also from long hauls where I've had to get straight off and do a days work but got no sleep due to crying babies or children kicking the back of my seat. or spent a ten hour flight next to a couple with a rawkus 16 month old on their laps (trying to climb on me) because they were too tight to pay for an extra seat.

I kinda know what you mean Rocket but now you're on the other side of the fence you can see how unreasonable it is to expect that children should never get on a plane.
Same applies to restaurants, art galleries, museums etc.

Children can be a delight on a plane or a fucking nightmare. Top of the list in my very extensive experience of kids on planes were the 2 brothers who kept up a steady thudding kick of the flight deck door whilst glaring knowingly up into the hidden CCTV camera. I would gladly have thrown them out of the window 6 miles up! Other than that lovely pair, there are no children featuring in my top ten most offensive passengers on an aircraft. I used to love kids coming up into the cockpit - we used to do things like switching all the lights on, or printing off messages from Santa at Christmas, and even big kids are usually reduced to drop-jawed awe-struck loveliness in the face of the power of Mr Boeing! Two people never to have in my flight deck ever again, though, are both adults from the world of football - Andy Gray, I realised he was a wanker long before I knew who he was. He spent an entire flight telling us about himself even when we told him to shut-up-we-are-trying-to-land-an-aeroplane-in-a-very-tricky-situation. We turned his mike off. The other was the shiny-panted tosser who was not actually famous enough for any of us to be able to figure out which team he played for who brought his kids (who were just lovely) onto the flight deck and proceeded to rant about how overpaid we were and telling his kids we didn't do anything to earn the kind of cash we do. Not like a footballer then

Generally, it is the parents that are the problem, not the kids. Adults are way more twatty on planes.

Cluck I'm glad you've told me about your boobage. At least I'll know it's you coming into the house tomorrow!

Completely unreasonable to expect children to never get on a plane. For example I have lots of expat freinds who bring their children home for holidays or to see family etc. But to take children on long haul just for the pleasure of the parents? It's not like a one year old would give a hoot about a holiday abroad. I am pretty sure Sprout would be happy with 2 weeks at home or in Cornwall at that age as long as she has our undivided attention. I know I'm probably swimming against the tide on this one and I'm not criticising anyone for doing it. Just not sure I want to.
I think restaurants, galleries etc are different for lots of reasons not least that they are not an enclosed environment for a relatively long time.

I reckon you'll be ok as long as you have enough stuff for keeping LittleClucky occupied.

Cross post box yup you are probably right about the parents, goes for most situations I reckon. I love your tales from work fyi. :o

If all goes to plan we'll be taking MB on a 6 hour flight when he's 13/14mos. Plz to tell me that this is not a nightmare age!! All tips welcome. Shall I practice doing "sit, stay and reward" now?

box I miss being able to visit the cockpit. 'Tis fascinating. Back in the days when my job entailed turning left when I got on a plane I used to always ask to visit. I have lovely memories of flying through the stars and hearing lots of pilot gossip.

Nothing on MrP's experiences though. He was one of those expat kids who used to fly back and forth in the holidays as an unaccompanied minor. He has a Captain's Club 'passport' with the numbers of all the planes he has flown in. He was a very sweet little boy.

silv 6 hour flight? Pah! Piece of cake.

Clicker-training Silv?

fanny how is clyde's eye today? Have you sorted out your starting date for the new job yet?

My lot are in denial. My mgr says I need to do a handover before I leave, although given he can't even find holiday cover for me in Sept... I am also starting to show which was not in the plan!

Medee skye sounds wonderful am most envious. My family are moray valley and I have some land up there for the apocalypse.

alps Clyde's eyes are good now thanks. I went to the doc first thing Thursday, got the eye drops, and he was back at nursery 24 hours later with clear eyes.

The rule at our nursery for conjunctivitis is 24 hours stand down from when they first start the drops, so that was a relief. He hates the drops though. I think they really sting and he has to have them 4 times a day.

The job start negotiation is dragging on so badly. Every little detail we discuss needs what seems like three weeks of discussion and approval with five layers of management and carbon copies in triplicate with a wax seal of approval before anything can be put in writing. It is driving me insane.

But when I talk to my new boss I just know we are going to get on fine after we have waded through all the beauracracy and I have actually started the damn job! We have had similar career paths, and when I first clocked him on the interview panel my prevailing thought was: 'That man has young children.' Let's hope I'm right.

Sorry you are showing. Floaty tops are your friend. (Says the woman who got through her entire first pregnancy with some people in her office still not realising she was pregnant.)