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November 05 Babies - They're here!

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rodeo1 · 01/11/2005 11:35

Well, some are here!

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goldenoldie · 09/12/2005 11:50

Makes me feel a bit better about using dummies..........

Pacifier Use Could Cut Crib Deaths By 90 Percent

Kaiser Permanente Study Provides New Hope for SIDS Risk

Oakland, CA - Using a pacifier during sleep can reduce a baby's risk of Sudden Infant Death Syndrome, or SIDS, by more than 90 percent, finds a new study by a team of researchers at Kaiser Permanente and the National Institutes of Health.

While pacifier use has been linked to a reduced risk of SIDS for some time, this study finds additional protective benefits from pacifiers, even for children considered at high risk.

The study, published in the online edition of the British Medical Journal (www.bmj.com), and upcoming print edition, looked at 185 babies who died from SIDS in 10 Northern California counties and Los Angeles County from 1997 to 2000. They were compared to 312 normal infants of a similar age and from similar socio-economic and ethnic backgrounds.

"Pacifier use has been linked to lower rates of SIDS for some time, but this is the first study to examine this relationship comprehensively and in the context of its interaction with other risk factors for SIDS," said the study's lead researcher, De-Kun Li, MD, PhD, of Kaiser Permanente's Division of Research in Oakland.

Li added that pacifiers may help protect an infant because the bulky handle stops the baby from accidentally suffocating in heavy blankets or soft bedding. The pacifier handle may alter a child's sleep environment by changing the configuration of the airway passage surrounding the nose and mouth, he noted.

The study also finds that the protective effect of the pacifier seems to be greater even when an infant was in an adverse sleep environment (such as sleeping face down or on the side, sleeping with a mother who smokes, or sleeping on soft bedding).

"We believe that pacifier use may be another strategy for further reducing the risk of SIDS," said Diana B. Petitti, MD, MPH, the lead researcher for Kaiser Permanente's Southern California study site, the Department of Research and Evaluation in Pasadena.

SIDS is the leading cause of death among infants between the ages of 1 month and one year, claiming between 2,300 and 2,500 lives every year in the United States. In the early 1990s, however, a broad campaign urging parents to put their children to sleep on their backs helped reduce the number of SIDS deaths by more than 50 percent.

The study's other researchers include Marian Willinger, PhD, health scientist administrator, National Institute of Child Health and Human Development, NIH; Roxana Odouli, MSPH and Liyan Liu, MSC, programmer analyst, both with Kaiser Permanente's Division of Research; Howard J. Hoffman, MA, director, National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders, NIH. The study has been supported by funds from the National Institute of Child Health and Human Development and the National Institute on Deafness and Other Communication Disorders, NIH.

Diege · 09/12/2005 12:41

Afternoon all! Having one of those caffeine fuelled mornings, when you go from one thing to the next without actually achieveing anything . Must get cards written today. Had a good night last night (maybe because she was awake - although only an extra hour?) in day. Fed at 10.30 (onlt took 2 ozs), then she woke 4.30, and again only took 2 ozs, and not keen on 7.00feed. Have a feeling I may have one of those babies that will sleep,through early (talk about jinxing myself!), but there again it will probably be a one off...I have to admit that I get greedy when I get an extra hour or two, and want more and more!!!.
LOL LOndoner re: 'we're late' mantra!! I'm exactly the same, and drive myself and them into a frenzy! Of course, we always arrive early, and then have to stanhd outside classroom for 10 mins in freezing cold! DD2 had major tantrum last night (6-7.30), but I thought of your post and it actually helped me to ride the storm a little - at least more than I normally can! .
Beks/Jenjam/Golden: Know the feeling with the crying. I have to admit to letting her cry it out for up to 15 mins sometimes - usually so I can just get dressed. I put her in her chair, or under the gym, and get bthings done as quickly as poss, though I know she's ok, as the crying stops the minite she's picked up! Had to let her cry this morning as (selfish mummy moment coming up) was doing my roots and figured she was better off crying than having 'nice and easy'. medium brown drip onto her .Like the dummy thing Golden - I don't tend to use at night as they keep mfalling out and then she wakes, but great in the day to tell if they are hungry or just sleepy (and great in cafes/Postofficer queue!!
TWINKLE: Will see you at main entrance of Piccadily at 10.09 (how precise are we!)on Tues 13th. Do you still have my moby no. to contact if need be? Don't think I had yours, but if you have mine we should be OK, in case of delayed trains etc..
Diege

Diege · 09/12/2005 13:00

BTW Twinkle, good luck with the York trip . Wow, all credit to you and your organisational skills!! Your trip to Manchester will seem like a doddle in comparison!

Enthusia · 09/12/2005 13:05

Ok

Haven't read any messages but just wanted to say a huge HI to everyone.

I am online again HHOOOOORRRRAAAAAYYYYYYY.

After 4 weeks of isolation I am back. Have needed so much advice and and general chat it is unbelieveable.

Things are now going well despite a rocky 2 weeks (bloody breasts) and am looking forward to each new day!!!!!!!!!!

Sam is great!!!

Hope you are all well, is going to take me the rest of this year to catch up!!!

Can't wait to start chatting properly and finding out about all of your news.

Lots of love and waves

Me

4 weeks post birth, Sam 1 month today, hooooooorrrrraaaayyyyyyyyyyy

beartime · 09/12/2005 13:32

Oh goodness Beks - that sounds like one of my nightmares come true with Thomas being dropped!

Had another nightmare last night - dreamt I let some people at church hold him and when I came back only his legs were left! Turns out they thought they could cook and eat him, and didn't know I wanted to keep him . When I woke up I was so convinced it was true that I cried with relief when I realised it was a dream!

What do you guys do about letting people hold your newborn? Obviously everyone wants to, but do you pass him round, offer him to the occasional person, wait till they ask or what?

Londoner - thanks for advice, have ordered 4 sm and 4 med this morning!

Londoner · 09/12/2005 13:33

Hi twinkle, can't believe all you are doing [impressed emoticon], felt tired just reading about it all! Good luck with the wedding trip, hope you have a great time and that dd makes a swift recovery from her cold.
Thanks for the pacifier info golden, it's really interesting and I wonder if it holds for babies that suckle at the breast a lot during the night.... or suck their fingers/thumb....?
Diege, lol at you having a 'caffeine fuelled morning', very good imagery, lol! Great news about sleep routine, will keep everything crossed for you tonight! Glad you managed so well with your DD tantrum.... it's so empowering when you manage something like that without cracking (too much) isn't it? V.impressed that you're always early BTW! We always just manage to scrape in before the door shuts for school.... and we live across the road.......! Teachers at the door can see us all coming out the house & then running back in 18 times to 'just get something' etc, lol, lol! Can't believe you are managing hair & beauty on top of everything else too, wow!
Hello Enthusia! So good to have you back! And that you and little Sam are doing so well, can't wait to hear all about him...........

goldenoldie · 09/12/2005 14:49

Hi Enthusia - good to hear from you. My boys are 1 month today too!

novabrandybutterpowder · 09/12/2005 16:28

have to quick as grumpy baby on chest...

my papoose is a baby bjorn active, and i can only sing its praises. it is much easier to eat with her in a papoose as it leaves both hands free for eating - i just sling a muslin over her head to catch crumbs . she hardly ever stays quiet if she's in a buggy in a cafe so i end up holding her anyway.

welcome back enthusia, we've missed you

got to watch nats weight - she's jumped another centile which is ok at the moment, but may be a cause for concern if she continues gaining so steeply. She's now 11lb 3oz (5.08kgs) which is nearly 2lb more than she was 2 weeks ago.

and we have smiles

tessnutsroasting · 09/12/2005 16:29

Sneaking on here when I should be cleaning the house as my mum arrives tomorrow and nothing has been done since Ash's arrival over 4 weeks ago. When your (admittedly astute) 2 year old asks you what all the bits are on the stairs I think its time to take action

Unfortuanately the 5 hour stint from a few nights ago hasn't been repeated and last night the poor baby was really struggling to breathe through his stuffy nose so no-one got much sleep. Doesn't seem to bother him when he's feeding though which is just as well as he really likes his grub!

For those of you struggling to keep babies awake when they want to sleep - I can lend you an over-enthusiastic 2 year old. Ash now tends to sleep in his Moses basket as she needs a chair to get in to hug/poke/sing him awake. Anywhere else he is fair game

Better go and show willing on the tidying up front I suppose!

Kristingle · 09/12/2005 16:47

Tessamum - when your 2 year old asks you what all the bits are on the stairs .........I think its time to teach her how to use a vacuum cleaner ...no seriously, its Ds1's favourite toy . And he's only 19 months. But he can't do the stairs by himself yet.

If I knew where / how to post a photo I would show you....

Diege · 09/12/2005 17:03

Just catching my breath before the 5pm feed! Good to hear the smiles have arrived Nova - it makes it all seem worth while when you they give you a grin . I remember it was 10 weeks with dd1 before we got one, and she's been a serious soul ever since!
Londoner, I like to think I'm keeping it up on the hair front, but 'beauty' is another matter! Tried to fit into my jeans yesterday, which I did, but woke this morning with bruises on my hip bones . Oh well, back to the trackies today!!Double chin has appeared too, probably brought on by sudden craving for jammy wagon wheels (why, why???)
Welcome back Enthusia! Any trips planned to Manchester again?
Tessasmum: er...I'll pass on the 2 yr old I'm afraid . Hope your night is more restful tonight.. have a feeling my good stint will be a blip too, as Libby has been asleep since 11, only stirring briefly when I decided to ring a friend (typically!). Bloomin' Gina!!

ChaCha · 09/12/2005 19:37

Good evening ladies

Haven't the concentration to catch up on weeks of posts but do hope that you and your little ones are all well. Thank you all for your congratulations and messages of support.

Pleased to say I'm recovering well and enjoying every minute with our son. Am managing to catch up on sleep thanks to grandparents and baby is feeding and sleeping well. Have fallen asleep a few times with babe in arms and half frightened myself to death so glad of the folks being around when i need to catch up on some shut eye.
Stitch was taken out today and the bruising (in every place possible) is healing nicely.
Have you all joined the group Busy mentioned? I'd really like to post pics somewhere.

Love to you all x

BEKsmum · 09/12/2005 19:46

Beartime it certainly was our worst nightmare, thankfully all the staff at the hospital were really nice to us and said that it happens alot.

It sounds like your nightmares are awful, do you think they are happening because your sleep is being interrpted so much or purely because of lack of sleep? Is there anyone around who could have Caleb for you for a couple of hours so that you could get a proper uninterrupted sleep?

Welcome back Enthusia, Sam sounds adorable, well done you.

Nova, i've just given up breastfeeding and have gone onto formula and i wondered how many ounces you give Natalie each feed & how many feeds does she have in 24 hours?

Right best go as typing one handed & Ben is being a bit ott tonight, so it's time he went to bed.

Hope you all have a good weekend Beks

tessnutsroasting · 09/12/2005 21:45

ChaCha - welcome to the other side and HUGE CONGRATULATIONS to all 3 of you.
Glad to hear you are being looked after.

Kristingle - had thought about offering her the hoover but she doesn't like the noise, goes and sits on her bed with her hands over her ears! However she gets the cleaning gene from somewhere, certainly not DH or I, and I take full advantage

Busy - seem to have got CAT to work this time. Too tired to remember my email address properly last time

beartime · 10/12/2005 03:28

Nova - I still don't see how you can see your plate with baby in front!

Tess - I have'bits' all over the house too!

Beks - I'm getting pretty good sleep, only up once in the night, so I think it's due to being a first time mum, and being terrified of doing something wrong and losing him.

I tried to keep him awake for half an hour today with a bath, and it ended up being 5hrs cos he was too awake to sleep, then after the next feed He was so tired that he cried constantly and all our efforts to rock him to sleep failed!

Diege · 10/12/2005 09:58

Morning everyone, and good to hear from you ChaCha! You made it through to the other side!.
Well, my 5 hours of unbroken sleep at night were indeed a blip! (serves me right for being so smug! . Bad one last night, but only by my own overly optimistic standards I think (ie. normal by 4 wks old standards!)Off to see Santa this morning and then to buy pets presents this afternoon. Hope all is well with everyone, and that sleep was had!
Speak later,
Diege .

ohKARMAallyefaithfulMOTHER · 10/12/2005 11:10

Morning all.

Chacha, great to hear you're recovering! What a difference having grandparents to help. Hope the pampering continues for a bit longer.

Beksmum, What a nightmare. I nearly did the same thing with ds & we both got such a fright. He was co-sleeping with us so I took the legs off the bed & put a cushion on the floor at the side in case it happened again. Its a good job they are tough little things. Think about the battering their head gets when you're in labour!

Jenjam, how old is Finn? If he's around 5 weeks it could be that he's having his first psychological growth spurt. When I had ds, I read a great book about this. Apparently, at set times in a baby's first year they have leaps in their cognitive ability. The first is at 5 weeks, second is at 9 weeks. What this all means is that they are able to comprehend new information which, initially, distresses & confuses them. This manifests itself as irritability, poor sleep, off their food/milk, clingy & generally out of sorts, depending on their age. This lasts for 2 weeks leading up to a "leap" then it all settles down & you get your angel back. Sadly, I gave this book away & I can't find it on Amazon. It really got me through many fraught weeks. Anyway, it's called "Why Babies Cry", & the authors are a pair of Dutch scientists. HTH.

Nova, Nat sounds like she likes her milk too! Your poor arms must be aching. Good job you have a sling. I considered getting one for ds for the same reason, but I decided the housework could wait & preferred the sofa instead.

Diege, dd had a five hour night sleep once too.[wistful emoticon] Of course, she can manage 5 hrs during the day. Once night falls.....2-3 hrly! Admittedly, she is bunged up with green bogeys & wakes up snorting violently!

Londoner, LMAO at getting to school!! I bet the teachers all have a bit of a chortle at you all. Oh, BTW, I seem to be churning out Jersey cream judging by the size of Ella's chipmunk cheeks. I was at my DB's yesterday & my SIL (who comes from an era when BF wasn't encouraged. They're in their fifties.) She asked the age-old question, "do you worry that sh'e not getting enough?" I then latched Ella on & it was very audible that she was getting enough!! My brother could here her gulping it down & he was next door in the kitchen.

Since we're all talking about the weird dreams we're having I had one the other night about Jimmy Osmond. He was posing naked for a centrefold & I can tell you, his "Little Jimmy" wasn't that little at all!!! I'm laughing as I type this, BTW.
DS is sitting next to me on the sofa, with DD asleep on his lap. It's a beautiful sight.

Hopefully we'll hear from LilJ soon & fingers crossed for you, Kristina. Do we need to inform the Guiness Book of Records yet???

novabrandybutterpowder · 10/12/2005 13:28

beartime - it's not that different from being pg, the 'bump' is just a little higher.

Nat has 7 feeds a day, most of them about 5ozs but her dreamfeed is half that and her first feed of the day is 7ozs. In total she's having about a litre a day.

Upset DH today as I've been getting Nat to only take 1 feed in the night this week, and he went back to 2 last night because he was tired! I shouted at him, but he started crying, saying he was only trying to do his best, which then made me cry for being a cow.

goldenoldie · 10/12/2005 13:29

Nova - at least your DH is in the same room..............

novabrandybutterpowder · 10/12/2005 13:31

No, we sleep in a separate rooms at the mo

goldenoldie · 10/12/2005 16:30

And i thought I was the only one hard done by!

Had lunch with a friend yesterday and her DH sleeps in room with baby and she sleeps in spare room - and he is the one going to work every day, she is a SAHM. Her DH also takes their older child to primary school every morning.

I need to take tips from her..............

BEKsmum · 10/12/2005 18:39

Evening girls,

Beartime, I'm glad you're getting enough sleep & don't worry most first timers feel like you do, I was always scared that I would lose Ben so we bought one of the Tommy Tippee monitors which has a sensor plate to put under the mattress and if the baby doesn't move or breathe for 20 seconds it sets off an alarm. We used it for so long that we bought a new one for Thomas and after last weekends accident I would swear by it as it meant we could get back to sleep without having to worry. Needless to say if they roll off the sensor the alarm can go off and scare the pants off of you but at least you are made aware that something might be wrong.

Karma, thanks for the words of comfort, it easily done and I knew in my heart of hearts that he was ok, but needless to say all the cushions are out now.

Thanks Nova, it sounds like Thomas is having the right mount of bottles then, although he has two feeds a night.

LilJ · 10/12/2005 19:57

Just a quick one to say that Nathaniel Spencer arrived on Thursday evening at 21:51 weighting in at a hefty 9 lbs 2 ozs. I was in labour for 27 hours and he was eventually delivered with a ventouse. I have posted more on the old Due in November thread and will post more details when things settle down a bit - as if!

He's gorgeous, looks exactly like his Dad with a full head of curly hair and an enormous appetite - and his Mum already has very sore breasts!

We're absolutely in love with him.

J xx

goldenoldie · 10/12/2005 20:44

Congrat LilJ - fab name too! 9lb 2oz - ouch - bet you are sore............

beartime · 10/12/2005 21:42

Hey Karma - thanks for that info - mine is 5 wks and displaying all of that yesterday and today! Nice to have an explanation.

Congratulations LilJ!

Do you bfing people feed one side or two, and for how long on each? All the different advice is confusing me!

Beks I don't think I want my pants scared off, so i'll wait on that one No dreams last night, thank goodness.

Sorry about your blip Diege , but it'll probably be better soon. Mine did really good on Gina till the growth spurt, then I gave up and went to a combination of BW and GF and beartime's own opinions. Best of both worlds

Oh ds smiles are so sweet - big toothless grins, I don't think I want him to grow up!