December 2010 - Merry Christmas new babies!

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Hi, I couldn't see a post-natal thread but as we grow in numbers we'll need a place to chat!

All good here... Jude is now 5 days old and such a wonderful good baby. Mind you he must think he's been born in the Arctic as it was -16 outside this morning in Edinburgh. Brrrrrrr - Its not always this cold Jude .

How's everyone else getting on?

Hello girls,
My poor DD is down with cold. I am freaking out as I have heard that premature babies have low immune system and can easily get in to trouble from a normal cold. Me and DH couldn't sleep last night and were up with every sniff she made. I kissed her drools so that I get the bug and make her some antibodies in my BM. I did get a sore throat and hope she gets some AB in the BM. Fingers cross...

MrsS we are at 91 percentile of weight too :)) DH laughs and says I feed her pure cream... Looking at my expressed BM in fridge I have to agree with him. It does have a huge layer of pure fat on top!! :) But she is losing weight a bit since sick as she can't feed well with clogged nose.... I have tried to wash her nose with saline and keep the room moist and keep her head elevated by putting stuff under cot's mattress but she is still struggling... poor lil lady...

CJ really hope your LO does't catch the Chicken Box... fingers cross for you...

Okay need to go and take a shower while she is sleeping. DH has booked a michelin star restaurant for dinner tonight and has arranged a baby sitter. I hope lil lady let us go out although I won't let her alone with BS if she cries.... I do feel I am neglecting DH and only showing love to DD but she is so much more lovable and cute... :)

We have done the deed long time ago.. Didn't wait that long. No problem for me at all as I had the section. All is back to normal in that department... :)

kellestar I dont you with those nappies glad you're feeling better

glad you had a good night out MrsS I was supposed to be meeting up with SIL today but in view of my cold, we've postponed. Trying to sort out a date to see a friend from work who's also on mat leave, which will be nice.

Pjen sorry your LO is ill, hope you get to go on your night out

max I have never seen poo like it, where it came from, there was more poo yesterday than could be possibly contained within her :) bless her, she's back to normal today. And she's chuckling at everything, she was so pleased about getting her foot in her mouth she was laughing really loud. DH thought she was in pain as she's not laughed around him yet.

Pjen poor little thing, hopefully she will be recovering soon. I have heard that your boobs pick up if they are ill and encourage your body to issue the anitbodies when you are BF, the saliva on your nipple senses it.

We have done the 'deed' twice since we had the okay from the GP. I was worried about my episiotomy but it didn't hurt as much as I thought, but we did need to warm up, no quickes for a while I've gone back on the depo as it works well for me we are happy to wait a little while before trying for No. 2.

I think my period is returning, had a little spotting and some tremendous cramps in the last 24 hours. And I am exclusivley BF.

kellestar I remember poo like that with DD, so much on one occasion we had to bath her as it had squiged so fast out of top of her nappy at back it was in her hair!

Hugh is now nicknamed Father Jack (from Father Ted)as he is a real grunter - especially when he has just woken up or is feeding, I can just imagine if he could talk he would be saying a**e and feck He also has a delightful new trick - everytime we lift his legs up during a nappy change he farts, if I'm lucky that's all I get

pjen hope your LO is feeling better. Hugh had a cold at the same time I did and he really struggled with stuffed nose. Although you can't use karvol or olbas oil on the baby we dotted some around the edge of his moses basket at night which really helped, you can also get plug in vaporisers which you can add karvol to which may help.

wwsb Any news yet? Hope you are ok or

Am on my own with the children today and Hugh has clearly decided he doesn't need sleep at all today sods law really as have loads to do. Bet when DH has him tomorrow on his own he will be a little angel

Right better go change Father Jack as I hear the dulcite tones of a nappy being filled. Then have to help DD make Grandma a birthday card for Friday.

I'm sure DD can't be going through another growth spurt this soon but she's been an absolute boob monster today - slept lots yesterday too... and all she's done today is eat and sleep!!!

kellestar yup - been on the receiving end of poo like that! It was sooooooo bad DD's clothes were covered and it was up to her neck. Like MrsS a bath was the only option...her little babygrow was stained bright yellow up the back. BTW, MrsS I laughed out loud at the image of 'Fr Jack' farting as you changed him

p.s impressed with your bravery regarding nook! Am seeing the GP tomorrow and my period is on the way out so who knows what the next few days might bring
Back to good ol' durex for contraception here - could never get on with the pill so v of those of you who do.

PJen hope your little one is coping ok with her cold. DD has just about recovered from her's. It was a worry but we did find the whole saline nose spray and proping her up at night thing really helped.

right, I've got a baby to put to bed! enojying one of these tonight...

Morning everyone!

Can't believe people have started periods! I'm still at the tail end of bleeding from the birth - 6 weeks on! HV and GP said it's a case of needing to rest more but hard to do with a toddler and newborn. I wouldn't mind but my house is in need of a good clean so it's not that I'm doing too much housework.

How often is everyone changing nappies at night? I put LO to sleep in pram at 7.30 then wake her up for feed, change and to take her up to bed about 11.30 but then she can be awake for around 2 hours! It would be easier if she would go to sleep in cot at 7.30 but she seems to need walking to go off, and then changing her nappy really wakes her up.

Have a good day, time for a for me.

hi esian, when you change her at 11.30pm has she usually pooed? I asked my HV this as my DD was straining and farting :) every morning at around 4am so i'd get up to change her but she'd never have pooed so HV said just leave her to it :) i think if she has pooed you have to change her, and eventually she'll be pooing less so won't need changing as often through the night.

The pram thing is a good idea, my DD struggles to fall asleep in the early evening so I might try this tonight, do you just push her around the house?

Does anyoe know what you can take for a sore throat when breastfeeding? I'm considering taking calpol as that must be ok :)

Hi Kittybump

No, she hasn't usually pooed so I might try leaving her tonight and see what her bottom looks like in the morning.

Yes I just push her up and down the hall. I thought she had colic and tried infacol, gripe water and colief but then I realised she just wanted to sleep but couldn't unless she was in the car or the pram. Not sure how this will work in the long term but just glad to have my evenings back to myself . Oh and

Not sure about Calpol but my brother is a GP and said I could take the odd paracetamol or 2 when I had a cold. Just like in pregnancy really. Hope you feel better soon.

you can take paracetemol whhile BF, and you can gargle with the dissolvable paracetemol too. It's what I did a few times a day with the tonsilitus. Also those orange ice lollies are good, they were on offer down tesco and they were soooo soothing.

Bea is full of wind most evenings, no idea where it's coming from, had a look at my diet and there isn't anything there, but we did exclude a few things to no change. She's also started not pooing or peeing over night, so she'll usually go from 10pm feed through to 6am with a dry nappy. which worried me at first, but she'll pee if we put her in a fresh nappy at 6am, but she won't pee in the nappy she's worn all night. Odd little beast. Jabs tomorrow, calpol in ready in case, she's got such skinny little legs and no chub so worried she's going to whinge.

Paracetomol is fine, just be cautious with some of the lemsip things. One has pseudoephidrine which can dry up your milk. The Kellymom website has details of drugs that are ok.

Hugh has a clean nappy at bath time in the evening, then a feed, then we try to get him to nap till 2230/2300 when he has clean nappy, feed and then off to sleep proper - if he wakes in the night I will change him but he is currently sleeping through till 0630. I feed him one boob, change him then feed him the other first thing then he goes off for another nap before school run. He is changed just before he leaves and then will sleep through to 1130/1200 - again change when wakes and if needed change after feed as well as he often poos immediately post feed. Afternoons it depends on how much of a nap he has as to when he needs another change. I wouldn't wake him to change him but will change him as soon as he wakes.

We use the pram in the house as well to help him sleep. He has his "magic" suit - grey all in one coat he wears for school run, sometimes all we have to do is put him in it in his pram and he falls asleep
There is an automatic pram rocker you can get but it's about £80 - it was on dragons den a few years ago

Went to a work meeting today, only supposed to be an hour but ended up being 2 hours of meeting and 2 hours travelling in total - boy did I have exploding boobs when I got back! glad I wore a jacket to the meeting

kellestar Father Jack here wont ever be able to get his foot in his mouth as he is too chubby to get his leg up that far

hi all.

Bob is having explosive poos. He's doing just 2 a day at the most but loads of wet nappies.
We get wet nappies at night. He sleeps really well from around 10pm until 5 now. I don't try to enforce a nap in the evening but he does often sleep around 7pm or thereabouts.

I've not had to do any of the white noise/pram pushing/driving around stuff but he does seem to like being carried and hates being held if I'm sitting down!

8 weeks today

Quick question.

If a baby is in a crib grumbling a bit and wimpering is it better to shush shush shush a bit and try to calm him or would singing a boistrous song work?

me and DH seem to have differing ideas about this kind of thing.

DF I can only guess which opinion was yours :) DH learnt the hard way a loud song wakes and doesn't settle. I let him sleep on my side and handle Bea afterwards. gentle crooning and shushyness is a mums thing, as we tend to be up if they don't settle well.

Bea currently has both feet as far in her mouth as she can. Why can she not open her mouth this wide to take in my nip, which is still rather tender as she prefers to munch and I have to post and adjust her.

Wow both feet!! Jude's not that flexible - or perhaps too lazy .

Explosive poos going on here too!! I answered the door earlier and was chatting to someone on the doorstep haivng just fed Jude when he did the most almighty load bottom explosion, loads of it too... I dont think this person had children because they thought he was ill -- nope just 10 weeks old .

Our little routine is bath, nappy, last feed bed and then I dont change him until morning unless he has done a poo - he rarely does though. I love my bedside cot as I can reach over and hold his and and rub his back so easily. We're getting pretty good nights, at least compared to my other boys. He's a once a night boy or sometimes twice but always settles again quite well. Getting some delicious smiles . We were at my mums this weekend and had family over (one of whom now has chicken pox - bugger) and Jude was basically being held and talked to /played with constantly for 4 days and he responded so well to the constant attention. Made me feel awful though as now we are back, DH is at work and I need to spread my attention 3 ways again... I just felt bad that I couldn't give him that 1 to 1 attention as much...

Going to head off - early night I think!

Some of you sound like you've got a good routine going on. We have nothing of the sort, and DD is still cluster feeding most evenings (on our 5th feed now since 1600). She's still feeding at 3 hour intervals too - I'm exhausted. I'm also still bleeding (8 weeks) -a third visit to the doctor finally got some abs but 5 days in and still it's not stopped! Argh! So def no resumption of nookie for DH.

Just moved house so hoping to settle a bit now and get some routine and some rest- past week been awful and DD really unsettled till today.

No sign of our referral yet either but thankfully I'm managing not to think about it too much.

No routine as such here either. DD will sleep at the same time 2-3 days in a row, I think '? routine' and the next night she changes!

I tend to change DD around 1130pm when she finally settles and then not until 6am ish - she has stopped pooing overnight.

DS is on day 6 of chicken pox - has some spots on his eyes which became infected so on abx for that and then developed thrush from the abx, poor little man . He's still quite jolly though and hasn't stopped him talking .

Routine nah! Just. When you think they have they change it again hence why I have been feeding, changing and changing clothes for last 45 mins!!
anyone?
ILs coming today as well for 1st visit, whole family mil fil, sil, bil, 2 d nieces plus dog!! Thankfully only dn and dog staying here!! Thankfully we still have piano in hall so it is really obvious we have NO SPACE
1st visit for them since ds was born so lots of hugs for him!!

Wow MrsSnaplegs were you writing that message at 3.20 in the morning? Although I was up with LO from 5am and she finally settled around 6.30. Remember when we could go to bed and just sleep through til the morning.

Good luck with your IL's visit. It's good of you to have dn and dog staying. Hopefully they can help with nappy changes, maybe not the dog though!

CJmommy poor DS but at least he's getting it out of the way now - I've been wanting my 3yr DD to catch it but she's been lucky so far.

WWSB what are abs? Antibiotics? I hope you get more rest in your new house once you've settled in. I wonder when they sleep through 12 hours? I can't remember with DD. I also can't really remember the nitty-gritty of her newborn days so it can't have lasted that long. (hopeful emoticon).

I didn't change LO's nappy last night and her bottom was fine but I don't think she woke up properly for feed hence not settling at the later feed. Ah well, new day, new hope for a restful night !

hi all,

good to see a few more posts on here :)

wwsb - i can empathise with the 3 hr feed intervals my DD has never gone longer than this either! I've been thinking maybe she isn't getting enough to eat at each feed as she often falls asleep, I know i need to try and wake her its just so hard when she's so peaceful (and quiet!) how long does your DD feed for?

df- is Bob still cosleeping? and if so how do you get him to sleep that long?!!! I've been attempting to put DD in her cot after her last feed but she is not happy and so ends up with me and basically sleeps with my nipple in her mouth i'm just at a loss as to how to change this :(

anyone else arguing with their DH/DP a lot? I know this is normal as our lives have changed so much but I could really do without it :( sorry for the depressing post just feeling a bit overwhelmed at the mo.....

MrsS defo joinging you for a

wwsb glad to hear you're not so worried about things, congrats on the house move too. Sorry to hear you're having issues with bleeding. I'm just naffed off that my periods are back - it was so lovely not to have to worry about any of that for the best part of a year. oh well!

6wk check for DD and I yesterday - she's 7 1/2wks now and doing well! I'm all good except for a small tear close to my epi scar which hasn't quite healed yet so been given some steroid cream to try and speed things up a bit....no nook yet then. My GP said she wasn't suprised I needed 'help' with the birth at the end. Turns out DD has quite a big head and if she wasn't in quite the best position then it would have been pretty much impossible. This makes me feel a bit better about the whole thing (not that I felt bad per se, I don't know, it just makes all the effort worth it despite the transfer and intervention etc....)

Talking about routine, DD been a bit all over the place this week. Nights are just completely unpredictable. Tues night she went straight to sleep at 7pm after her bath and feed - unheard of so DH and I quietly optimistic. I woke her at 10pm for a feed - she was so sleepy (despite a nappy change) that she fed really badly. Then she woke again at 1am - just grizzling so gave her some water - she dropped off eventually - only to wake at 2.30am....offered water...back to sleep...to wake again at 4am...offered her some boob and she fed, but didn't take much. We were all knackered come the morning. Last night I went to wake her for her 10pm feed and she was soooo deeply asleep I decided not to bother. Figured she'd wake in a hr or two anyway and I might as well get some sleep. She only went and slept through until 1.30am when she had a really good feed and then slept until 6.30am!!!!!!!!!!! (my poor boobs were fit to burst...tmi) Not expecting that to happen again tho....

kittybump sorry to hear you're having a hard time. DH and I have had some corkers in terms of arguments since DD was born. I think its just one of those things, and lack of sleep really doesn't help. No suggestions really about your DD and her sleeping arrangements...just don't have the experience. Maybe one of the other mums on here might be able to advise? in the meantime have a big hug x

Hope everyone else is well and coping with whatever life is throwing their way!

Must be the week for being ill. DS had had a cough for a week and a temp of over 39 degrees the past two days, took him to doctors and he's got red ears and throat but they won't give him anything even though he was crying with pain, just got to give him pain meds. Kira's got a nasty cough again and my throat is so painful I can only eat soup and even then I have to take codine half hour before so I can force some down.

kittybump we've had some spectacular arguments, it was the same just after our other two DC's. It's a mix of tiredness and noy getting as much time together as Kira goes to sleep later than DD1 and DS and sometimes doesn't settle.

Have you tried using a dummy? sometimes when Kira won't settle and only plays with hae bottle that helps even though she spits it out after a minute. We've also got a musical toy by her head which plays lulabys for either 10 or 20 minutes. It took her a couple of days bto get used to it but now I out it on when I put her back in bed after a feed and it really helps her to settle.

DH is driving me nuts. Kira has been bad with colic and screams for ages once a day (though hasn't been too bad past few days) and DH just has no patience with her and leaves it to me. He can't stand to be near her when she's like that and goes upstairs leaving me to it even when I'm shattered. I don't like it either but I manage even with two toddlers and a house to look after while he's at work. He's usually brilliant but it really gets to me when he won't try for more than a minute to calm her and now it seems she'll only settle for me when she's really wound up.

She cries if I leave the room or even if she just can't see me. I don't get a break, even a lie-in on the weekend as DH won't take DD1 and DS downstairs in the morning, he just keeps telling them to play in their room which they won't do for more than 10 minutes. I end up getting fed up of him telling them off and them coming in and out and take them all down myself and then DH wonders why I'm not in the best of moods.

Sorry for the rant it's been getting to me lately.

Sorry you're having a hard time crazykat - sounds like your DH is being hard work too so rant away. Can you talk to him to explain what it is you'd like him to do? i.e it would be helpful if you could take DCs downstairs in the morning as they don't play in there room for long enough... Also maybe he needs some help to understand that settling a baby takes patience? It took my DH a while to get that with DD.

Sorry also kitty that you are feeling :( . DD averAge feed time is 20 mins - I do try to keeP her going but that's generally it.

DD stayed asleep during her jabs yesterday _ what's that all about?

HI, sorry I've not been on, I'm feeling very fat and miserable. Can anyone help me with some advice on another thread?

www.mumsnet.com/Talk/breast_and_bottle_feeding/1153367-Which-bottle-formula-for-breastfed-baby-What-problems-will-giving-one-bottle-a-day-cause