August 2010 - new thread ladies!

[Chulita]

New thread cos we've nearly filled the last one!

vix fwiw L was similar when she was little, until about 6 months she'd wake 12-13 times in 8 hours. As she ate more solids she started going a bit longer, and I knocked the last 4 night feeds on the head at 10 months with cc. It's horrible though, I remember just feeling grey like there was no colour left in the world (DH was away so it was just me). S currently wakes every 2 hours on the dot and feeds for 20-30 mins. He's also up at either 4 or 5 and wants to be up for a couple of hours all jolly. He then goes back to sleep just in time for L to wake up. It will get better, I just don't know when. I've got a stone of baby weight left to lose and simply don't have the energy to get out during the day with both dc and can't do it at night cos S feeds so often.

S is semi-crawling and rolling everywhere, he eats quite well too so I'm hoping sleep with start to settle soon.

Morning Ladies

Tbh, we are going to talk to our chiropractor about seeing F. Mostly because of his random sleep pattern tbh, but partly because he does tend to carry his head on one side and sometimes goes quite boss eyed

Just as we start to think we have finally got there wrt sleeping, he goes back to waking every 1.5 - 2hrs and not feeding for more than a couple of minutes before falling asleep again.

On a positive note, we took F and DD to the cinema to see Tangled in 3D yesterday. DD loved it, and F was so good, watched half then slept through half, not a sound from him.

Vix that's how E would be, if we tried to keep putting him back in the cot all night. I do the same as Pample and bring him into bed for the night after the second waking. Am just too tired to persevere with anything else right now. E has a cold, but when he's better, I'm going to start with getting him to nap in his cot. Once he's used to that, I'll move on to the nighttime arrangement. Hang in there!

Pample we can't get E to take a bottle either. Major pain! I have an evening class on Thursdays 6-8pm now and would rather cry himself to sleep than take a bottle off DH. I cried a few weeks ago tipping 240ml of EBM down the sink!

Dave (LOL) sorry to hear your back to every 2 hrs at night. This has just got to improve, right?

Those of you whose babies won't take a bottle, have you tried a cup?

Vix I hope you get some joy with the osteopath. To me it sounds like your LO will really benefit. Fingers crossed. What's his daytime feed/sleep routine like? Does he have a dummy?

Vix and pample hope you get some sort of resolution soon, can't imagine how you must be feeling with so little sleep.

Thankfully my T goes to bed in the afternoon and sleeps for 2 hours which is when I get all my housework done and dinner prepared etc, it really works well. The better he sleeps through the day, the better he sleeps at night.

What is all this about not taking the bottle, how frustrating for you, again, I hope you can find a solution. I have a similar problem with a dummy, or to be PC, soother. With bf DS, I didn't give hime a dummy when he was younger, now he sucks his thumb and not just a little bit, but a lot, so I keep trying to give him a dummy, but he cries when i put it in this mouth. Keep trying different makes, models, synthetic, silicone etc, still makes no odds, he spits it out and if I hold it there, he screams and screams, I just don't want him to suck his thumb and end up goofy .

Whn DS was first born he wouldn't feed from my boob if it was too full, made it really hard when my milk came in. Anyway HV, had me express and put it in a cup, he took it, no problems. Os maybe Dave's suggestion of a cup will work for you. Here's hoping.

take care all xx

hi all

this sleep business is a pain isn't it? the last 3 mights have been a bit better though. on friday and saturday nights I slept in the spare room and DH brought J to me for feeds if he couldn't settle him when he woke. He fed every 3 hours compared to every 1 1/2 previously. Bliss! Last night I was back in our bed but again it was only every 3 hours (with a couple of other brief wakings).
He's generally very difficult to settle from about 5.30am onwards so I often bring him into my bed then and we get a bit more sleep

dogwalker, at least with a thumb you don't have to put it back in for them if it falls out in the night!

Hi everyone

knackered from knackeredsville here too. It's grim isn't it? I've stopped looking at the clock during the night - it's too depressing!

For all those with bottle-refusers, we had a breakthrough today with a medela teat. Cost a flippin fortune in Mothercare but G actually drank from the bottle for the first time! woo hoo! It's called the medela calma - hoping it will help when I go back to work in April

Welcome back vix - as you can see we're all as sleep deprived as you and as bonkers as ever

Don't go cakey stay and eat cake and nod in all the right places and you'll be fine.

dave [recognition]

chulita are you still shredding? I managed 5 days last week but had a stinking cold over the weekend [wimp] and was just too tired this morning. Hoping to get back into it tomorrow - I've lost 2 inches off my hips, 2 inches off my waist and an inch off each thigh Hurrah! Still a looooooong way to go though.

Went to Ikea today (retail therapy as a sleep substitute anyone?) and found some nice thick baby sleeping bags for £10! I love Ikea!

thedogwalker fwiw DH and I both sucked our thumbs and aren't remotely 'goofy', L sucks her thumb all the time at the mo and she's got lovely teeth. It's not the worst thing in the world!

blueberries I haven't got back into it since I got the flu 2 weeks ago, I've just been too tired. I need to though, my friend who had her baby 2 days before me lost twice as much weight as I need to already. I was so irritated at myself when I saw her fb post! I just need to get on with it but on 3-4 hours sleep I just can't summon the psyche...

S won't take a bottle either, right now I don't care. He's back to feeding every 2 hours but since he's nearly crawling I think it's a developmental thing and he'll get through it

FWIW I was a thumbsucker too and no goofiness here either :)

neenz - he feeds every 3 hrs or so but naps are random. I find it hard to stick to scheduled naps because we are out and about at different times every day. But he never naps for more than half an hour unless I lay down with him or we are in the car.

So I went to osteopath who said it is probably a mixture of teething, congestion and a tension in the right side of his head that is unsettling him. She did a bit of work on him today and wants us back next week. I hope it works, it is quite pricey but worth every penny if it gets him sleeping better. For his sake as well as ours, I can see he is tired bless him.

I'm definitely giving up on the cot and just letting him sleep with me from now on without fighting him. Like others, he goes down for his first hour or 2 in the cot and then comes into bed, but tonight we just went straight to bed. I was so tired I couldn't even eat my dinner but here I am still wide awake and he's fast asleep. I allowed myself to get swayed by other people frowning on our co-sleeping and saying the usual 'rod for your own back' type comments.

Re bottles, I have tried every teat going, the NUK was my last hope but he has rejected this. Sippy cups rejected too, my next attempt will be a normal cup and the HV said you can get some kind of non-spill ones...

I'm really sorry that so many of us are having these sleep issues, I read today in my Sears book that a wakeful baby often = a clever child. I think Alex will be a genius in that case LOL

I am so glad to be back among friends though, I missed you all :)

grghh Poppy shows no sign of rolling over .. is everyone's. She can just sit up an hold a toy. She is very social (used to be left???) and hates being left on the floor.

plus my diet is going so badly since Christmas... I will try better next month

Am going to start giving her some food at the weekend

have read everyone elses... sorry about the sleep and the lack of bottle taking - go for tippy cups - Poppy refuses bottles too

oh lord my message is so incoherent -

is everyone's baby rolling over??? She has done it tummy to back twice

Trying to decide if I need this or if its just a waste of money/cupboard space...

www.mothercare.com/Wean-Machine/dp/B0030SJAX2/ref=sr_11_1/277-3036333-5874160?_encoding=UTF8&mcb=core

cazzy - Alex has rolled once from back to front but that was 2 weeks ago when he was having some nappy free time :)

cazzy J hasn't rolled yet (except twice from front to back when he was 4 weeks old!)

I couldn't get your link to work vix but a wean machine sounds interesting!

Morning

F rolls lots, but only from his back to his front then gets stuck and wriggles about getting cross looking like an angry penguin DD didn't roll til she was just over 6m. DD used to (and still does) take time to figure something out, but then gets it right alost immediately, but F seems to act first, think later

Vix i have heard that very wakeful babies generally turn into very bright children too. Also that having your child's room painted yellow can make them more clever, but also make them cry more

Just watching Dumbo just at the bit where Dumbo is visiting his mum

Last night was a slight improvement. There is no way F is waking beause he is hungry, he just wants to suck, which hurts, not feed. So last night when he woke at 11ish i was going to just cuddle him, but he got so agressive wanting to suck that i got cross so put him down in his cot and shut myself in the bathroom for 5mins he didn't cry though, just kept shouting with the odd grizzle, then fell asleep, all in less than 10mins. He then woke at 2ish so i fed him, then again at 4.45am, then woke at 7am when DH's alarm went off. I am happy to comfort him, but he is really starting to savage my nipples again, so want to try to separate the comfort from feeding/sucking to some extent iyswim?

Anyway, going to make some chocolate brownies later if anyone is interested

dave we are going through the same sucking for comfort/feeding thing at night. It's hard work but Alex seems to be getting the message now!

Another comfort sucker here. Frustrating thing is, when I wake him to feed properly instead of comfort sucking, he doesn't feed properly at 6/7am and then the rest of the morning is a battle trying to play catch-up!

For everyone doing finger foods, these have just gone down a storm! Perfect consistency for chubby hands to hold, don't get slimy and fall apart like other foods do and super easy to make. So easy in fact, I'm going to make another batch with banana and cinnamon for ds1 when he gets home from school.

oh, G only rolls onto his side and shows no interest in going any further! In fact, he can rarely be bothered to even roll on his side. Sits unaided reasonably happily though.

Hi all,

Sympathies to all you bottle refuseniks, am lucky in that E took the Tommeee Tippee bottles I bought and has had a botte of EBM most nights since she was 4 wks old.

Re rolling - a few weeks back E spontaneously rolled from front to back but hasn't done it since, gets really close to rolling back to front when reaching for a toy but once she gets the toy she loses interest in the rolling no sitting yet either.

Evenings still pretty crap here. We usually get 45 mins at the beginning of the night, then there's a lot of upping and downing until I eventually feed her again and she falls asleep. Last night tho, I went to bed about 10ish, she was still awake, I took her in with us to feed, she was feeding then messing about so I put her back in the cot, planning to pick her up when she started crying and hopefully she would then be tired enough to feed to sleep. Next thing I knew, it was gone midnight and she was asking for a feed - she must have self-settled and gone to sleep for about an hour and a half That's the third time in two days she's self-settled, twice for naps and then last night. Prob sounds rubbish to you, but progress for us!

Wouldn't go down in her cot this afternoon tho so ended up in her pram, you win some you lose some.

Hi all

Thanks to everyone wrt to the thumb sucking, I've been listening to too many other people telling me horror stories about goofy teeth etc, I will stop listening to them and do what my LO wants, which is not a dummy. Its just when they all suck through their teeth and shake their heads, telling me no, no, no, it makes me feel so awful. Some people just know how to make you feel bad.

Also, I hope I didn't sound patronising when I mentioned this in the same sentence as the people who are having problems with bottle teats. I know its not the same, this is very minor in comparrison, it wasn't until I read my message back that I thought I might sound a bit callous. That was not my intention and I hope all of you having the teat problem, find some solution soon. Fingers x for you.

T is rolling on to his tummy constantly and rolls baack on to his back about 50% of the time, the other 50%, I have to roll him back over as he cries after a while. But on the awakeness/sleeping scale. T sleeps between 10 - 12 hours everynight and 2 hours every afternoon, so that makes him to be a not so bright child if we're going by how awake they are .

Hope everyone is having a good day x

dogwalker. At the moment I'd choose a sleepy simpleton over an intelligent insomniac any day! (Not sure if this works though, I slept ok as a baby and am, of course, very intelligent )

Same here marzi! I slept through from the start and yet I'm quite bright lol

WE gave up on trying to get J to take a bottle a few weeks ago. He now drinks water pretty happily from a sippy cup; haven't tried milk for a while.

J is 6.5 months and not rolling at all!

Evening all. We are awake and feeding as dd2 fell loudly out of bed and woke T up.

Back at a and e the other day as the gp sent us due to wheezing not getting better and they x rayed her chest which was a bit scary but all clear.
Have a three day course of steroids for her though. Review in a week.
I am considering re naming her darth vader the sounds she makes!

Took lodger for chemo yesterday at the same time as Dh got taken by ambulance to a different hospital as a car knocked him off his motorbike.

He rolled across the bonnet but thankfully ok and worked last night tho will be sore today.

Never a dull moment in the gya house..