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What ideas and suggestions would you like us to pass on to the new government?

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Carriemumsnet · 15/06/2010 22:23

We are meeting with government in the next few weeks and we'd like to pick your brains. Obviously times are tight and most government departments will be anxious to find ways to increase efficiency. Do you have any thoughts about how things could be made simpler and easier, perhaps by using Mumsnet to implement services or offer support currently offered in other ways? Are there particular services that you think warrant special protection and should be ring-fenced? Or any particular ones that you feel are badly implemented/ wasteful? How could Mumsnet work with government to make life easier for parents? For example should Mumsnet be promoted by Midwives and Health Visitors to parents when they leave hospital or have their final visit? Could Mumsnet be used as a job-share hub? We know you'll have lots of ideas and suggestions, so please post them here and we'll try and pass on as many of them as we can.

Thanks, MNHQ

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belledechocolatefluffybunny · 15/06/2010 22:41

Can you put some more nurses into the NHS? It will save money in the long run, better patient care means less litigation.

Get rid on NHS direct, the people on Mumsnet do a far better (and more efficient) job

belledechocolatefluffybunny · 15/06/2010 22:41

Health visitors shouldn't be peddling netmums.

gaelicsheep · 15/06/2010 22:44

Isn't there already a Govt-run website that does/could do this stuff? I forget the name of it - it's got forums etc. but it's not that great.

I would have serious reservations about posting on a forum that had Govt links tbh (and I'm a fan of this Govt so far). Keep Mumsnet's independence I say. Otherwise, where would you stand legally with the feeding and other advice threads?

gaelicsheep · 15/06/2010 22:46

Oh yet, definitely definitely get rid of NHS Direct (and please meet with the Scottish Govt and tell them to get rid of NHS 24 as well - totally pointless, useless piece of sh*t that has stopped us from accessing out of hours care on more than one occasion because they can't be bothered to phone back).

everythingiseverything · 15/06/2010 22:49

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fluffyhamster · 15/06/2010 22:54

MN could be used as more of an educational 'hub' - promoting BFing, good diet & nutrition for kids, positive parenting skills, and literacy (Pedant's corner...)

Ah - so, well .... it already does that doesn't it?

gaelicsheep · 15/06/2010 22:58

Contrary to what I said before, they could ditch all the shiny and useless breastfeeding promotional literature and point people here instead. Everything I know about breastfeeding was learned on this site. Ditto for weaning. Whether Tiktok and co want that responsibility is another matter...

If we're talking about general policies then I totally agree about the Health in Pregnancy grant - total waste of money in most cases. Just increase the Healthy Start/Sure Start schemes if it's felt that extra is needed (although that will often just pay for an even more expensive designed pram).

A personal hobby horse of mine is the 16 hour threshold for the childcare element of working tax credit. That is no help at all for many parents who want to return to work in some form. (Oh and while I'm on the subject they should do an audit of responses to emails sent to "Ministers" in the DWP - I sent one about this issue and got the rudest reply you've ever seen from some civil servant).

bosch · 15/06/2010 23:02

Can you think again about the way tax credits are paid. At the time in your life when your £ circumstances are changing the most, you seem to have to inform the tax office (always available for a call and a friendly chat - NOT!) about every change in incoming money, outgoing nursery fees, etc etc. It would be easier if you could email I guess...

And you must sort out CRB checks. I have to have a separate one for every school or out of school club that I volunteer in. I would be more than happy for all my details to be available to check (by legitimate organistations only!) on a centralised database. If I wasn't happy for the school/club to have access to those details, then I'd either have something to hide or be a 'data protection' freak who was happy to submit numerous crb check forms for every occasional I might come in to contact with children

Oh, and can I second the comments re NHS Direct. They must be working for someone, but not for me (except for once when the Swine Flu website gave my son a bonkers diagnosis and I got a real dr on nhs direct to agree that it was bonkers - ie neither system is telling me something i don't already know. If my children are ill, I don't need to discuss it with a call handler and a nurse, i need to talk to a dr. Now)

AbricotsSecs · 15/06/2010 23:02

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gaelicsheep · 15/06/2010 23:06

Re NHS Direct/24. I was 8 weeks pregnant, DS developed a suspicious rash out of nowhere along with a temperature. I really really needed to know what on earth it was, not only for him but was it dangerous for me in early pregnancy. The so-called nurse basically accused me of being neurotic and refused to give me details of an out of hours GP. This was Friday night. Rash had gone by Tuesday, which was the first time we could have seen a doctor. I never did know what it was. Am now 39 weeks pregnant and presuming, but not certain, that it wasn't dangerous. IME the only thing those call handlers/"nurses" are trained for it to ask you about the symptoms of meningitis or a heart attack.

gaelicsheep · 15/06/2010 23:06

Sorry, wrong thread for details I know, but I'm still angry about it to this day.

loungelizard · 15/06/2010 23:16

I doubt 'the government' is going to be the slightest bit interested in this thread, but in the hope that they may be the tiniest bit concerned, could they (Michael Gove, in particular) please stop the dumbing down of exams in general.

Because,actually ,it really annoys me that the 'tim, nice but dim' lot all seem to get all top grades at GCSEs whereas their equivalents at bog standard comps don't,even though both sets of schools have a mixed ability intake.......

So if you make all exams hard only the brightest, regardless of their parental income, will do well.

End of rant. And I am sure you are not 'listening' anyway (obvs in the real sense of listening, ie taking notice of what the great British General Public actually want......)

gaelicsheep · 15/06/2010 23:19

Does no one else have a problem with an independent website being used to promote Govt messages and services?

williewalshsballs · 15/06/2010 23:21

kiss of deaath linking up with govt and promoting their initiatives imo

what happens when we get a new government? How will you ensure site meets govt guidelines (no more swearing etc)? Site fortunes will become tied to govts fortunes. Slippery slope and all that.

williewalshsballs · 15/06/2010 23:23

gaelic, I think it's a terrible terrible idea. webchats = yes. Feedback from members to govt = yes. Formal link = NO

AbricotsSecs · 15/06/2010 23:26

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gaelicsheep · 15/06/2010 23:28

This is probably a crap Scottish thing again - MN please meet the Scottish Government too! - but get rid of those ridiculous TV screens in every Tesco store and shopping centre that peddle Government advertising. I feel like I'm living in 1984!

williewalshsballs · 15/06/2010 23:32

and I am a tory. but seriously mn...noooooo

monkeysavingexpertdotcom · 15/06/2010 23:33

Deeply unhapy here about the possibility that MN might develop a link with a particular government. What is this, the LibDems?

gaelicsheep · 15/06/2010 23:34

Lib Dem/Tory floater here who's happy with the coalition government so far. NOOOOOOOO!

SanctiMoanyArse · 15/06/2010 23:35

gaelic at least you got a reply frpom MInisters! I ambeginning to think my emails are blcoked

Would MN function very well if it was constantly used by people just popping in and asking q's then leaving agin? No ofence but I used to get apid to do that; sharing is one thing,, unpaid advisor and then off they go- would put me completely off!

Have reservations about NHS Direct too- they over reacted in our cases a few times leading to quick chewck calls being amde to go to hospital when clearly unnecessary (including for myself- bit of a wheezy chest adn they sent an ambualnce becuase i;d happened to be at a car rrace FGS. It was just a cough!)

TAX Credits do help people back into work: theya re feeding us whilst DH sets up a business. bBtter than JSA claim surely? The only thing that worries me- DH is studying adn when finsished will increase his hours masively (as he will ahve the quals to do so)- am really worried that having ahd a highish apyment in the first half of that year we will get nothing and it won't be enough to manage (I am acarer which amkes everything doubly fiddly IYSWIM- we need 2 incomes to manage, and can only achieve one).

Complete vested interest but if social services and carer's / disability benefits drop we will lose our home. After 5 years begigng we just got an offer of some holiday support with the boys, it'd break my ehart if that were pulled now. And I don't know how we'd cope.

Frontline NHS staff needs ringfencing, as do teacher and crucially TA numbers (our school already lost all of them) and crucially SNU schools. If schools are already strruggling with a lack of funding putting chidflren like mine who need ++ help back into MS will only make it harder for tehm to cope.

Drop health in preganancy grant, feel free to tax my CB but if you drop it at 13- well unless you ahve a cure for the boy's ASD I am not going to be back earning am I? So it'll be a hit very ahrd to take.

Most of all- please cut the scre stories! We know that things are going to be tough. I can start working on meeting bills when I know what we face but teh constant scare stories are giving me sleepless nights and that's not going to help anyone is it? I;ve heard a lot of people say the same, especially the most vulnerable people like carers and the disabled. Ten eyars ago I would hqve gone and got a second job; now I just hqve to stare at the sits vacant, wish and panic.

Mainoy though remember the real people behind the figures. We all know you need to make cuts but tehre's only so much the most vulnerable people can take and no roads out.

Oh and surestarts- I know the rhetoric about offering clay modelling and homeopathy to the middle classes is popular but the one I used to work for did excellent work in a hard up area. They are great but they should be expanded- use the buildings for respite for the disabled, weekend clubs to allow parents to work shifts, groups for the elderly. Closing down expensive facillities at 5pm is bonkers, and most are in the exact right palces to reach the needy.

CGT increases- give people who rent to people on HB for more than 2 yaers a discount. Up to the landlord then still but gives them a reason to think about it and help get people into housing.

I think MN has the potential to offer good resourcs in conjunction with the agencies but not via MN as it is: it woudl be better as a side development. And frankly it needs to be open about what it is- if it's Government sponsored morally that should be obvious and should not masquerade as anything else. WWW. mumsnet-hub.org or
something.

Oh and when it comes to social services- start using the other resources out tehre for information. Homestart is excellent and when I worked for them we did lots in conjunction with social services bt we lost fudning and had to close: so instead you ahve the expensive agency replacing the cheap one. Not sensible. Encourage partnership but not the tendency some agencies have to dump lots of work on charities for free (the NAS are aprticular vicitms of this in my experience)

ninja · 15/06/2010 23:35

I'm sorry - but this whole thing about using voluntary organisations and the like to do things that the government should be doing is dangerous bollocks (sorry had a drink).

The money is peanuts as opposed to other budgets they have (and we all know what they are).

SanctiMoanyArse · 15/06/2010 23:37

Oh and we are Lib Dem members who are not happy with the coalition- we accept the need for aprtnership but the Lib Dem parliamentary voice has been lost as a result. Marriage doesn't have to be an absorption does it? We've pretty much come to teh conclusion that our party has ceased to exist in any real form and has just become Tory-Lite.

gaelicsheep · 15/06/2010 23:39

Not if the tax credits thing was a general comment or in response to my post? My point was that if they didn't have that stupid arbitrary 16 hour threshold they'd help a whole lot more people back to work by opening up opportunities that just can't be taken up at present.

SanctiMoanyArse · 15/06/2010 23:39

Ninja they can learn and there is a place for aprtnerships

But they only work if properly funded- IME they rarely are.

Using them unpaid to take on extra work is just wrong: the whole point of charities IMO is that they should be providing services outside the core needs.

here, if you get seen by a social worker or paediatrican, the first thing they do is ask if you joined the National Autistic Society: the poor NAS doesn't have enough people to cope and waiitng lists for services of years. It's not offering a seroivve to people, just apssing teh uck of who has to say no.

OTOH chariotoes can advise and support: theya re good at that. usually at a far cheaper cost, too.