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David Laws' expenses

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longfingernailspaintedblue · 28/05/2010 22:41

I really thought he was the very best of the Lib Dems.

Given his fortune he obviously doesn't need the expenses, but hiding his landlord/partner from the authorities is unacceptable, even if it was to hide his sexuality.

I'm completely shellshocked.

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StewieGriffinsMom · 29/05/2010 08:01

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BeenBeta · 29/05/2010 08:26

If my understanding is correct, he could have rented/bought a flat for say £2500/month, lived in it with his partner in a civil partnership or alone and claimed the whole expense. Just like every MP does who has a wife and family.

This arrangement, actually saved the tax payer money. If I rea drhe figure right, he only claimed up to £950/month which is far less than the maxmum allowed. I say, look beyond the story and who stands to benefit.

The thing that annoys me is that this story was clearly fed to the media by someone who stood to gain. The press just printed it up.

Is there anyone in the lobby journalists who is actually interested in the big issus of the day like getting the public deficit down, how we deal with the pension deficit, how we deal with a banking system that is on the verge of collapse, how we deal with reforming social security? No. They are not interested because all they want to talk about is whether there is a 'spit' in the coalition. Its pathetic.

The tone was set in the first 'Rose Garden' press conference with Clegg and Cameron. The journalisst were clearly not interested in the policy issues or the hugely brave and historic step the Tory and Lib Dem leaders had made.

I dont think David Laws should resign. He did not profit from this and if he pays the money back he will have in fact claimed only a small fraction of the expenses he could have legitimately claimed if he had been conventionaly married.

Look again at who has the most to gain from this and ask whether that is good for the country or narrow party/personal political interest. This constant drip talk of the coalition splitting makes me sick. I am not interested in seeing David Laws step down. I hope Cameron stands firm.

BeenBeta · 29/05/2010 08:28

'split' in the coalition.

I am so ANGRY I cant type.

claig · 29/05/2010 08:29

did you hear that arrogant shameless LibDem MP Jeremy Browne defending Laws on Radio 4's Today programme? Apparently the nation should be honoured to have such a talented and frugal MP as Laws working on our behalf.

StewieGriffinsMom · 29/05/2010 08:29

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claig · 29/05/2010 08:31

Laws should be swept out immediately. This is an insult to the people of the nation. There must be better people available to serve us.

jackstarbright · 29/05/2010 08:44

By edam Sat 29-May-10 00:28:37

" those are the rules that MPs decided to inflict on benefits claimants. If it's good enough for the general public, it's good enough for parliament."

Having personally seen what those benefit rules do to families (incentivising fathers to live away from their dc's) I take your point. But I find both cases of intrusion into people private lives unpleasent.

LeninGrad Sat 29-May-10 00:29:47

"disingenuous. He could have shared the mortgage and it would have been legit"

Yes - but to do that he needed to be open about his sexuality - which makes me uncomfortable.

But my point - it wasn't greed that drove him - he could have claimed more money legitimately if he was open about being gay.

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claig · 29/05/2010 08:49

so to cover up the fact that he is gay, he wittingly broke the rules and compromised his position. His judgement is flawed. I don't believe his claims that nobody in the world knew about his relationship over all these years. We will see if those in the know will embarrass him further by making this information public or whether they will let him stew. If more facts are fed to the Sun then he will be digging himself a deeper hole.

"Oh what a tangled web we weave when first we practice to deceive"

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rarebite · 29/05/2010 08:52

It wasn't just the £950 a month - that's the bit he is paying back. He also claimed £150 a month for cleaning the second bedroom, £150 for repairs and maintenance (the landlord's responsibility), utility bills, etc, etc. In total he claimed £90,000. The records are available as they publish the account details - so check if you don't believe me. You can see he stopped claiming for these extras the month he had to produce receipts. He was nearly up to the £20,000 limit. So this is why I say he was driven by greed - because he couldn't both hide his sexuality and make the claim. He had to choose and as a millionaire he had a choice - unlike benefit claimants.

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claig · 29/05/2010 08:55

he is doing a disservice to gay people. If he gets away with it, people will start saying that gay people get preferential treatment. As he wriggles like a fish on a hook, he is disregarding the interests of gay people as a whole in a futile attempt to save his neck.

claig · 29/05/2010 08:57

rarebite, spot on. It is obvious and his attempts to bamboozle us are shameful. He has to go.

BelleDameSansMerci · 29/05/2010 09:00

The first of many more I expect... Not casting aspersions but the honeymoon with the press was never going to last.

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claig · 29/05/2010 09:05

yes it is dishonourable. He is throwing caution to the wind in his attempts to cling to power.

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claig · 29/05/2010 09:13

If only we had some ordinary people with morals in power. I don't agree with the braying chorus of MPs who tell us that we are blessed to have such talented people as Laws selflessly working for us when he could instead be earning a lot more as an exalted investment banker. They have cleared some of them out with the expenses scandal. It looks like there is a lot of spring cleaning stll to be done.

longfingernailspaintedblue · 29/05/2010 09:14

Morning all - must say this thread is far busier than I thought it would be!

Whilst I think David Laws needs to go, I still think the role of Alastair Campbell in all this needs to be explained. Why on earth would anyone carry a framed photo of a political opponent onto Question Time?

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