Pondering, and while slightly more optimistic than we once were, still really quite unhappy Lefty thread

[Hassled]

Where had we got to? We'd agreed that we all love Cameron, right?

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Gordon Brown quits: I foresee three problems for the Lib Dems. One, form a coalition with Labour and you still get Gordon Brown, albeit temporarily. Two, after that you get an unelected prime minister, which the public may not like. And three, critics will inevitably call this "a losers' coalition", says the BBC's political editor Nick Robinson."

Way to poo at the party Nick. Grrr.

Although I think he's right on all counts. Double grr.

Lib-Lab have a golden opportunity of they play it well. Like we said earlier GB, mandy and other have one last stroke to play as the exit: PROPORTIONAL REPRESENTATION.

Also, GB's legacy might look much better than his premiership. He is a good man, a real public servant and I am ashamed at the way our press treated this good, sometimes sad, man.

tyv - yes, but points two and three were clearly and succinctly explained by Campbell.

But GB was an uunelected PM since 2007, so where's the difference ?

labour + lib = support of over 50% of those who voted

Nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo. This has to be because he's been told by the Dark Lord that this is Labour's only chance of staying in Government. My preferred option was let LibCon or minority Con get on with it, Gordy resign at Conference and then start to look for a new leader. A LibLab agreement is going to be a vicious leadership election followed by a limping six-month nightmare attempt to remain in government, made worse by sniping gloating undermining tory media attacks. (head in hands). I'moff to spoon out me minestrone (with a coulis of tears)

I think I'd still prefer to spend the next few years watching the Tory party struggle with a minority government, tear themselves apart and then give way to a universally beloved rejuvenated labour.

I'm worried a lib-lab coalition will carry the can for all the crap that's undoubtedly to come in the next few years and then the Tories will get in in 2014 and stay in for 10 years.

Actually TDiddy, the events since the election have made GB go up significantly in my estimation as a statesman. Ironic, maybe. I agree if this pans out as a liblab coalition his legacy could be more significant in history than his premiership.

Oh yes, and see thread on here already - ANOTHER unelected Labour Prime Minister. See, the sniping has already started. Have any of the parties in this election listened to their grass roots?

Two other not very nice pieces of news (although not of the same import).

1. RBS to make 2600 people redundant; 2000 in the insurance division. Guess where DH works?

1. BA have announced more strikes, one at Whitsun, the same weekend we're flying to Edinburgh to celebrate my bf's 25th wedding anniversary.

And it's a weekday so no wine allowed.

My preference was for Labour to step back and renew itself in opposition but a Lib_lab option also has PR upside.

Think that we said early in this and other threads that Labour was in the best position!

yes sorry, when I said "Nick Robinson's right on all points", I didn't mean I agree with the criticisms, but I think he's right to point out that they are massive potential stumbling blocks for a lib-lab coalition.

Any prime minister going into office under these circs might as well have a huge sign on their back saying "kick me" as far as the right wing press goes.

Oh dear oh dear oh dear! LibCon is fine, liblab hotchpotch is a media disaster which will be detested by the electorate. No point in PR if this arrangement scuppers lib dem chances for the next 300 years!!!

Gotta love wee Dougie

TDiddy your comments re GB brought a tear to my eye

Evil Tory DH just walked in looking like someone has seriously pissed on his parade ah schadenfreude

Oh I like good old Gordon. Though I'm a pessimist, and scared of the RW media.

Suspect Tories will just not give enough - can imagiene vague promises and no real commitment.

Problem with a Tory government, whether coalition or minority, we have no guarantee that they will really do so badly.

Could be that the global recession improves quicker than expected (partly due to the measures that GB started) and then the Tories would get the praise for it.

Once they are in Downing St, they are there. It is always more difficult to get them out again.

"No point in PR if this arrangement scuppers lib dem chances for the next 300 years!!!"

I agree.

Oh no BIWI When will DH know what's happening?

BIWI
Oh, no.

Have some chocolate instead. And some

Because - sorry to hear that. wine needed as exceptional day, not normal weekday.

taffetacat - we will have to do a MN thread in his honour and ask all bad wishers to stay away.

"Also, GB's legacy might look much better than his premiership. He is a good man, a real public servant and I am ashamed at the way our press treated this good, sometimes sad, man."

Totally, totally agree. Labour did some amazing things on his watch. We have enormous things to thank him for.

Taffeta
Are you gloating?