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England wants the Tories. It seems.

89 replies

Alouiseg · 07/05/2010 15:30

map here

England is nearly all blue therefore most of the English want a Conservative Govt.

Isn't it about time Scotland and Wales were left to govern and provide for themselves?

Problem solved

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Madge5 · 11/05/2010 09:55

I am simply stating that those who are not affected 100% by central government's decisions should not have the same weighting in a general election.
And the point of showing all the figures was to point out how much worse off Labour voters in Scotland and Wales would be under PR. If PR happened, you wouldn't merely have 'projecting of Conservative values', it would be an enforcement by your own voters.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 11/05/2010 10:02

Give the Scots and Welsh votes less weighting in an election? How democratic!!

ajandjjmum · 11/05/2010 10:09

Heathen
15.4 million did not vote for the same party.

Madge5 · 11/05/2010 10:14

Would you allow the English to vote in Holyrood to decide on education etc. etc?

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 11/05/2010 10:16

Of course, if they were elected to the Scottish Parliament!!

Poohbah · 11/05/2010 10:28

I think it is inappropriate that Welsh and Scots MP's can vote for UK laws but that English MP's cannot vote for Scottish and (to a lesser exent because the Assembly has less power) Welsh Laws.

At present Labour in Wales puts money into the labour dominated councils and diverts money away from Liberal rural councils, so when Labour supporters talk about Tory cuts they need to realise that Labour are just as guilty of directing funds to their own supporters and simply don't give a monkies about rural poverty issues resulting in genuine hardship especially for the most vulnerable groups.

Madge5 · 11/05/2010 11:06

Thank you Poobah.
I now have to go and pay my taxes so the likes of FanjoForTheMammaries can have their cake and eat it and still feel aggrieved

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 11/05/2010 12:20

yes, no-one in Scotland pays taxes of course! The only thing aggrieving me is the rubbish you are spouting about handouts. Used any nice oil recently?

Kathyjelly · 11/05/2010 12:31

Ex-pat - so RBS and BoS weren't creating any greed fuelled debt then! And they come from.....Scotland!

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 11/05/2010 12:35

yes,no English bankers are ever greedy,just those pesky scots ones

Kathyjelly · 11/05/2010 12:48

I think it's probably all bankers, my point was Royal Bank of Scotland was just as much as fault as Northern Rock or any of the others.

fanjoforthemammaries7850 · 11/05/2010 13:23

Yes, and? Did you say it just to get at the Scots a bit then?

Kathyjelly · 11/05/2010 13:30

No Fanjo I was saying that bankers in general were at fault, nationality wasn't relevant to that issue despite Expat's comments.

Granny23 · 11/05/2010 13:34

Madge -
Elections to the Scottish Parliament are already conduction under PR - which is why no party has ever had an overall majority.

SNP MPs DO NOT VOTE on issues which are England only (unless there is a knock on effect on Scotland). This is perfectly proper but does leave them open to accusations of a poor voting record as loads of Westminster bills are England or England & Wales only.

HBOS - is not a 'Scottish' bank, the clue is in the name! Bank of Scotland is not the equivalent of Bank of England. Bank of England is actually the BANK OF THE UK with regulatory functions; Bank of Scotland is a subsidiary of Halifax, with a branch network like any other high street bank.

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