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Oh hell no- what NC said about WW2

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atlantis · 22/04/2010 00:33

Yes, it's true i'm a conservative voter at this election.

Yes, it's true I've done a little NC bashing because I don't believe in some of his parties policies and his holier than thou image he's trying to convey.

But hell NO , if this article is true this man had better not come to my local area because if I see him on the street I'll do more than egg him..

www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1267921/GENERAL-ELECTION-2010-Nick-Clegg-Nazi-slur-Britain.html

"Nick Clegg has claimed that the British people have ?a more insidious cross to bear? than Germany over the Second World War.
In an astonishing attack on our national pride, the Liberal Democrat leader said we suffered from ?delusions of grandeur? and a ?misplaced sense of superiority? over having defeated the horrors of Nazism.
He said we found it hard to accept that Germany had become a ?vastly more prosperous nation? and that ?we need to be put back in our place?.
His views, outlined in a newspaper article when he was a member of the European Parliament...

The passionately pro-Europe Mr Clegg revealed his views in an article for the Guardian newspaper in 2002.

?Watching Germany rise from its knees after the war and become a vastly more prosperous nation has not been easy on the febrile British psyche,? Mr Clegg wrote, before attacking Britain?s approach to the war.

?All nations have a cross to bear, and none more so than Germany with its memories of Nazism. But the British cross is more insidious still.
?A misplaced sense of superiority, sustained by delusions of grandeur and a tenacious obsession with the last war, is much harder to shake off. We need to be put back in our place.?

I wholeheartedly agree with this;

"Tory MP Nicholas Soames, grandson of wartime leader Sir Winston Churchill, said: ?These views will disgust people the length and breadth of the country. They show that Nick Clegg is unfit to lead his party, let alone the country.
?They are an insult to the memory of Britain?s war dead and to a time when the British public all pulled together for the common good.

'They prove that Mr Clegg shares the European view of Britain rather than the British view.?

I am disgusted. This isn't a case of NC bashing, his views are clear, it's revolting.

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Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 14:15

so interesting to note that atlantis has disappeared (up own ar....)?

to my knowledge nick clegg has never been sneering about britain. the point being that he doesn't seem to be a sneering type of man!

atlantis · 22/04/2010 15:09

"so interesting to note that atlantis has disappeared (up own ar....)?"

It's called working for a living thanks.

Why get personnal?

Your one of the trolls thats popped up, so smell what your shovelling.

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morningpaper · 22/04/2010 15:10

He made this comment in 2002 btw

It is not exactly Lib Dem policy to take the country down a peg

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:11

pmsl at me as a troll...i've been here for 5 years my dear.

am glad you're back...any response to the FULL article?

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:14

atlantis, aren't you a tiny weeny bit sheepish to have been suckered by a DAILY MAIL article quoting someone out of context and using nick soames (heaven help us) as a stick to beat him with????

Coolfonz · 22/04/2010 15:20

"Your one of the trolls".

You're.

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:21

lol.

i must be a troll as I support the libdems ergo...

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:22

coolfonz, didn't you clock that extremely right wing troll that has recently appeared (can't remember his name) sayhing that spelling didn't matter????

atlantis · 22/04/2010 15:23

"atlantis, aren't you a tiny weeny bit sheepish to have been suckered by a DAILY MAIL article quoting someone out of context and using nick soames (heaven help us) as a stick to beat him with???? "

No. I did say at the start of this if the quotes were accurate and I note that they are, even if they have been taken out of context, his words are still his words and I don't agree with them.

I'm not in favour of the eu as it is now, you can cooperate with european countries and trade without being ruled by them.

I think what Clegg has said about this country and it's people shows where his true allegiances lie and that's with a United States of Europe run by Germany and France.

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atlantis · 22/04/2010 15:25

""Your one of the trolls".

You're. "

Yes, yes am dyslexic as many already know, God do I have to explain everytime I post.

I'm sure if I went through all your (you're) posts there would be plenty of errors.

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atlantis · 22/04/2010 15:27

"pmsl at me as a troll...i've been here for 5 years my dear."

Very forgettable then?

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SeaShellsOnTheSeaShore · 22/04/2010 15:29

Oh yes, that reoccuring troll sophable. Don't you hate it whenshe comes trolling, with her common sense, intelligent answers new lib dem tactic- lurking then trolling on mn Tory threads there are few here now...

The daily mail paranoia is palpable Atlantis we're just harmless lefties, long standing mn members!

ShadeofViolet · 22/04/2010 15:29

Much as I dont agre with what Atlantis says, there is no need to pull apart her spelling.

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:30

clearly atlantis you're voting exactly according to how rupert murdoch wants you to!

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:31

everyone gets their spelling pulled apart here...there is a pendants corner topic!

i am a big spelling offender fwiw, and people hate that i don't capitalise! and overuse dots...

Heathcliffscathy · 22/04/2010 15:31

note missing apostrophe in my post!

midnightexpress · 22/04/2010 15:36

Sophable, I expect this is why you were uninvited to the party - MNHQ realised that you are in fact a troll.

ShowOfHands · 22/04/2010 15:40

sophable, the anti troll. With her common sense approach and considered contributions, she seeks less to inflame and dissemble, more to explain and discuss.

atlantis, when you say you'll do more than egg him, pray, what do you mean?

lincstash · 22/04/2010 16:27

Too right Atlantis.

NC showed his true disdain for the english today. He also showed that as far as he is concerned, the EU comes first, second and third.

If you thought Nu Labour have sold us down the river to the EU, you watch what happens if NC gets a say in it. We'll all be speaking esperanto and London will be a municipal borough of Hamburg by 2012.

Just think, NC could achieve with a million floating voters and 6 months what Hitler failed to do with 60 million germans and 10 years.

dollius · 22/04/2010 16:31

"We'll all be speaking esperanto and London will be a municipal borough of Hamburg by 2012."

This pretty much says it all about your rather weak grip on reality.

And, as others have said, the DM was supporting the Nazis during the war.

Once again, comments taken completely out of context and I agree with what NC says here.

mathanxiety · 22/04/2010 16:42

Britain actually lost WW2, to Franklin Roosevelt and the US Treasury.

I agree there seems to be a tenacious obsession with the last war, and also suggest no useful lessons were learned from it or from the aftermath, judging by all the righteous conservative indignation and remarks about sucking up to EU chums.

Francagoestohollywood · 22/04/2010 16:52

"We'll all be speaking esperanto and London will be a municipal borough of Hamburg by 2012.".
You don't mean this, do you?

ShowOfHands · 22/04/2010 16:56

I'm fairly thick actually. No way I'd speaking esperanto by 2012.

And I've been to mainland Europe. Not a mad call for esperanto ime.

Francagoestohollywood · 22/04/2010 17:13

I don't know about London, but I so wish Milan, where I live, could become a municipal borough of Hamburg.
It'd mean clean pavements, less traffic, more green areas, more buses and subways, etc etc etc.
I will never happen (sadly. For Milan. London is beautiful as it is)

smallwhitecat · 22/04/2010 17:18

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