Is anyone else really scared of the prospect of waking up to a tory administration on May 7th?

[electra]

Because I am! i think it will be truly awful. Don't get me wrong, I don't think labour are fabulous but omg surely they are better than another Thatcher style administration?? I have a disabled child who is 8 years old.......I somehow doubt that it will be any easier to get her what she needs as she goes into her teenage years under a conservative government. It's hard enough now!!

Yesterday the blues were campaigning in our town centre - I live in a swing area - traditionally tory but fell to new labour in 1997. They seem so.....backward thinking to me.

Am I overreacting? Is there an upside at all?

Yes very scared! But Labour have really messed it up and 13years of labour have been no more fruitful than the Tory years!!
Lib dem worry me about childcare vouchers and surestart cuts?

I don't know where to go or what to hope for!!

Why is it most people only go back as far as Thatcher? It can't just be age. The country was falling apart, somebody had to do something. We had even gone to the IMF cap in hand. This great country was on the brink of total collapse. I came to live here at the end 1973. Soon we had no sugar, bread, electricity, our rubbish was not collected and as a 10year old, I remember asking my parents if we could please go back ... to Ethiopia!
And, yes Thatcher did go off the rails in her last term but that is more because of our political system allowing leaders to continue forever (instead of the US system of two terms) and so allowing them to still lead when they have lost all grasp of reality and start believing their own hype. Blair was on the same road.
There is no doubt that if you want a greater gap between the poor and rich, vote Labour. The actions they take adversely affect the poorer far more than the better off, as the latter pay their way out. This creates a greater divide. Labour continue to get votes. Divide and rule.
And don't forget, even in a society where we are all equal, some are more equal than others. This is from the favoured book amongst the rulers of socialist countries.

"As for the mother in the link who fears for her disabled son, perhaps this is an object lesson for all of us who are thinking of inflicting our disabled children on the taxpayer. Don't have disabled children and add to the increasing pool of the unproductive and feckless of this benighted country".

Am absolutely shocked by that comment on the Facebook link.

here

Or was the poster being ironic and me thick?

As the mother of a child on the autistic spectrum though I am shocked.

\electra I had that feeling about labour in 1997 and every thing I knew would happen came true, but then I remember the labour party of the 70's and how truely disasterous for this country it was then.

WTF?? Is that comment going to get removed? My blood is boiling

I will be overjoyed if the Tories are in. I cried after Blair was elected in 97 and agree totally with Bruffin.

As for 'how will we revitalise communities unless people stop asking ?who will fix this?? and start asking ?what can
i do?? britain will change for the better when we all elect to take part, to take responsibility' I really don't see what is wrong with this. It's about getting involved rather than waiting for something to happen. It could be writing a letter to a local councillor about getting a broken bus shelter fixed; it could be running a youth club; it could be running a group for elderly ladies; becoming treasurer of a playgroup;driving someone to hospital for radiotherapy appointments. It's about working together as a team to influence outcomes for where you live. Why is that scary?

scaryteacher - there is nothing wrong with those things at all. Being proactive is good and I support that approach but I fear the underlying message is that for those who cannot help themselves there will be no support.

Yep, I am! Terrified of them getting in, especially after seeing the debate, not as bad as if BNP did though, but that's a lot less likely thank God!

On a personal level, I work hard and am family orientated, just the kind of person the conservatives claim to support, but financially I NEED all the help I get, and more tbh, just to keep a roof over my kids heads. IF the tories get in I've got to say that I fear I will lose that, either through losing my job, or by cuts in tax credits.

Socially I think they would be a disaster.

Electra - you see I think one (doubtless unintended) effect of a lot of the regulation that Labour has brought in is to discourage people from doing things for themselves and their communities.
I quite see where people are coming from in fearing that the Tories mean they will be on their own.
There must be a middle ground somewhere where community action could be encouraged and nourished but people needing essential services wouldn't be left high and dry....

I am absolutely terrified of waking up and David Cameron being PM. But then I feel pretty much the same about Gordon Brown

I quite agree Seth, with you too LouMacca

I agree Seth about the legislation discouraging people, although (cynically?) I think it is quite intentional - who'd vote out a government they rely on to get by?

I will probably personally do better under the Tories if one takes a narrow view of the world. I also think Cameron is as decent a Tory as you could find. But I think Labour or Lib-Dem better for the country as a whole so I wouldn't be voting Tory....but I wouldn't say I am scared of DC. He is okay just not sure what his policies are.

JK's view

Nope, can't wait to see the back of labour, much more terrified of them getting back in.

Lincstash, lovin your posts btw

Perhaps Electra you are seeing things that just aren't there - part of being in a community is to help those who need it.

The only thing worse than getting 5 more years of Labours lies and incompetence would be to find they had elected the slimy corrupt toad Mandelson PM as well............

linctash - you will score more points and maybe influence more minds if you go for policy (as opposed to personal) attacks?

regards

I will be really happy if the Tories win this election. I'm very much in favour of a smaller state with less interference, monitoring, political correctness and health and safety nonsensical overkill.

I want less interference from Europe and a halt on the leaching of our sovereign powers to Europe ( I read today that our budget may have to be "approved" in advance by Brussels - how the f* have we let this happen)

V. uncomfortable at the unfathomable (at least to me) media euphoria over Nick Clegg's debate performance( seems like a very pleasant man though, as is Cameron - Brown ugh )just because he is telegenic and looks straight into the camera - am hoping their policies are also scrutinised by the media to the same degree as the other parties. They are much too pro europe on every level for my liking and they are in favour of joining the Euro. If we become are wrapped up in the Euro straitjacket - we are finished. Sterling will be tanking next week given the media narrative over that past few days . The flip side of my delight on May 7th if the Tories get in will be waking up to a horrible nightmare with Brown still as PM for the next 5 years which is almost certain to happen if the LIb Dem vote increases significantly

I fear that GB will still be in charge in a months time. I've no doubt that people we get lots of benefits and don't work will be worried that DC will get in and cut benefits but that's what they should be doing.
And for people who work in the public sector concerned that they may lose their jobs? and? there is a recession if the public sector is top heavy with admin and management (and I really don't mean front line workers like nurses, teachers etc) then they should be made redundant.
There is no job for life now and I think a new government might try and reduce the huge debts that the country has so that our children have a better future. That's got to be a good thing hasn't it?

I presume linctash and tashtodd are the same person?

Said: No we are not - why do you presume that

cos they cant stand the idea there might people who dont actually want to suck Browns dick like they do, or have a view about the EU that isnt looney left political correctness.

If Brown gets back in, said, you DO realise there paymaster UNITE has vowed to eject the Blairites and Brownite and return the party to far left socialism, and they CAN do this because UNITE on its own gives Labour 25% of its funding, which gives them massive clout. This will mean civil war in the party and another winter of discontent. UNITE and the GMB have promised this will happen.

So, vote labour, vote for political chaos, a winter of discontent, and a return to 1972.

linctash, tashtodd and tootlesmummy has a rhyme to it. I don't think that the difference between parties is all that big and I don't think DC is a bigot. But I think the core of his party is still intolerant of women, gays and other races whatever the window dressing. So that is one good reason why I haven't been won over by well meaning DC.

lincstash - gosh you are a firey man/woman!