Is anyone else really scared of the prospect of waking up to a tory administration on May 7th?

[electra]

Because I am! i think it will be truly awful. Don't get me wrong, I don't think labour are fabulous but omg surely they are better than another Thatcher style administration?? I have a disabled child who is 8 years old.......I somehow doubt that it will be any easier to get her what she needs as she goes into her teenage years under a conservative government. It's hard enough now!!

Yesterday the blues were campaigning in our town centre - I live in a swing area - traditionally tory but fell to new labour in 1997. They seem so.....backward thinking to me.

Am I overreacting? Is there an upside at all?

Can you give any evidence for that claim, lincstash? Only oddly enough, I haven't had any briefings from my HR department about being forced to give jobs to the girls.

muminlondon, what is the Guardian CIF Site?

I have accepted it. They can do very little to hurt me, I teach but I imagine that Tories love a school like the one I teach in. I have no intenion of following dictats from above about the way I arrange my classroom.

But when I hear tory supporters like lincstash on one of their rants, it scares me that people like that are getting in to power.

'laws that make it illegal , when given the choice between two identicle job candidates, a man and a woman, to pick the man, as per Harmans Equality Bill.' - this is bolleaux of the highest order. The equality bill makes it legal to practise positive discrimination in those circs. It most certainly does not make it illegal to employ them man.

LOL at 'you sound like you post on CIF'

'labour misery'???

dont you remember Thatcherism - boom bust

I worked in an office in liverpool when interest rates hit 16 % and my manager rang her husband who was home looking after the kids and they both cried

dilapidated school buildings

hospital waiting lists

the relief i felt when labour got in - unforgetable weight lifted

cinnamontaost

SO if DC using his position to advance himself is bad, what about peter mandelson?

He used his position to obtain illegal oans, used his political position to get a job in brussels, returned a millionaire even though his wealth exceeds what he possibly have earned, gets a knighthood for shamelessly selling us down the river to the Eu at every opportunity, and althougha totally unelected person, not an MP, , uses his leverage on Brown to get a job in the government with the largest ever staff and budget.

Whatever Cameron has done to get where he did, he hasnt shamelessly plundered the public purse to get there like Mandelson.

Yet again we have someone slagging off Cameron for somethign when there's members of the government who have done far worse for 14 years, that ll the labour voters turn a blind eye to.

Once again we get back a simple point. You KNOW labour arent fit for office, they proved it. You didnt know if Blair was, yet you voted for him. You dont know if Cameron is - but there a damn good chance hes a far better bet than labour, yet you wont vote for him - why blair and not cameron, there's no difference in circumstance to cameron now or blair 14 years ago. Both were unknowns and of the opposite politics to the incumbent government.

I agree Otter, everything was ground down to bare subsistence level under the Tory govt and it was so utterly depressing. Labour has made a big difference to my local schools (just ask the teachers) and I've got no complaints about the hospital either.

@policywonk

no ur wrong. the bill forces you to employ the other candidate, it forces you to choose the man last.

Must go to bed, don't be up too late arguing the toss!zzzzzzzzzzzzz!

Guardian Comment is Free. It can get very nasty - pieces on Europe or by feminists attract a lot of bile. I think they are male political researchers who are pissed.

Lincsy, you really have an axe to grind, don't you? Voting for Blair in 97 is no reason to vote for Cameron now, no matter how much he tries to present himself as Blairlite (which, it has to be said, is pretty light). Different policies, different parties, or hadn't you noticed?

lincstash, you really need to take a 'how to win friends and influence people' course because your posting style really isn't going to convince anyone who doesn't already agree with you. Fortunately.

@lincstash - no. u r wrong. See the fracking Act itself (p102)

Yes very worried.

I watched last night's debate even though a lot of it was totally irrelevent to where I live. I am pretty depressed about whichever party wins. At least in Scotland there is some buffer because of devolution - all the talk about health/education/police etc is devolved, so our government will decide on that albeit within the money they are given by Westminster. I commented to DH that if I lived in England I would be so confused - couldn't vote Tory, but I don't see Labour as much different and at the end of the day I do not trust the Libs at all. We had them in the coalition government (with Lab) at the start of the Scottish parliament and they sold out their principles for a seat in government.

There is an upside

The economy would be an awful lot healthier. So tax revenues would increase, thereby enabling some money to be spent on public services.

With Labour? Well, they mean terribly well but lack the fundamental skills to manage the economy. So they won't cut public services until every private sector worker has been made redundant. But, you know, living in a wasteland is not particularly attractive ...

It's all there from the very begining of the manifesto;

'how will we revitalise communities unless people stop asking ?who will fix this?? and start asking ?what can
i do?? britain will change for the better when we all elect to take part, to take responsibility'

Translation: we do not have time for people who cannot help themselves - don't look to the government for any support. If you're a success, you'll thrive under this government if not.......(no answer).

In practice some people will not be as successful as others because they haven't had the same opportunities and why should that mean that their children don't have enough food and have holes in their clothes?? That is how I remember some of my friend's lives as a child of the 80s.

This, for starters......sure it's all dressed up to look appealing but the underlying ideals are exactly the same as before.

i think we are pretty much fucked any way, dont want labour or conservative.

havent made my mind up about the libdem either.............

voting on my birthday as well.

worrying about my teen sons, not getting any form of employment after they leave uni and college. they cant even find a part time jobs!

Quattro - on what basis do you say the economy (under the Tories) will be an awful lot healthier?

Don't disagree that Labour can't manage the ecomony. However they have said that there will be public sector cuts. Your statement thereafter is utterly ridiculous.

more scared of waking up to another labour government

Scared of waking up to another 5 yrs of Labour,i dread to think what will become of the country if they get in again.

I will be voting Tory for the first time in my life after being a Labour voter since i could vote,cant wait for the change tbh.

I don't know if this is what Quattro is thinking, but my issue with Labour and the economy is in part that I don't think they have really come to terms with the cost of their micro-managerialist approach and how much harm it does.
They create red tape usually with the best of intentions but the consequence is more expense for everybody, whether in the public sector or the private. (I used to work in academia and the amount of time we used to waste on peripheral activity like creating paper trails around research ethics even for the most benign of student dissertations, for instance, had to be seen to be believed. And this stuff costs. But there are lots of examples across the public sector and the private.)

I'm pretty frightened of the prospect, yes.