Is anyone else really scared of the prospect of waking up to a tory administration on May 7th?

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Because I am! i think it will be truly awful. Don't get me wrong, I don't think labour are fabulous but omg surely they are better than another Thatcher style administration?? I have a disabled child who is 8 years old.......I somehow doubt that it will be any easier to get her what she needs as she goes into her teenage years under a conservative government. It's hard enough now!!

Yesterday the blues were campaigning in our town centre - I live in a swing area - traditionally tory but fell to new labour in 1997. They seem so.....backward thinking to me.

Am I overreacting? Is there an upside at all?

I agree notanotter-he's not shown a lifelong passion for politics. But I dont think his background should automatically exclude him from being Prime Minister. There's no reason why someone from Eton couldn't be a fair and equitable leader - I just won't be voting for this particular guy from Eton as something tells me he won't be fair and equitable!

i get you and partially agree about background

I don't see him as a particularly genuine bloke and was shocked at the number of references to Ivan (?) last night

sorry thirtysomething, I wasn't directing those comments at you specifically but making a more general point.

It is something that really riles me about political discussion in general.

Your points are valid, and I think we actually agree more than we might think. Except who we will be voting for.

See though, it is quite easy to look at tory policy here bit long winded though

And yet for 14 years Labour has had Harriet Harman, the daughter of a Duchess, with a far more aristocratic geneology than Cameron, and yet that apparantly is ok, that doesnt count ok !!

What utter hypocrisy this thread is full of!!!

If its not ok for Cameron to be a rich kid, then i didnt see you all campaigning to have Harman ejected from government. Whats sauce for the goose etc.

This thread is just more looney left hypocrisy from the same small bunch of labour posters in lib dem drag.

also the tax break thing is for civil partnerships too

are they planning on reducing help for single mothers? where does it say this?

Agree Lincstash

what does Gordon Brown know about the problems of the average person? He has been living in Downing Street for the past 13 years. Pretty far removed from reality. i see no reason whatsoever to believe he has an advantage in that regard over David Cameron.

David Cameron had a disabled child who has died, and I'm sure your aware of that, Cameron would not I'm sure do anything to stop provision for disabled children or any child.

Lincstash, Harriet Harmen has a posh background but she supports policies designed to build a more equitable society, in which children who don't have the advantages she had are given a decent start in life (SureStart being the obvious example). There's a big difference between her political career and Cameron's - he's joined the party of privilege and I just don't think you can dispute that that's what the Tories are. When have they ever talked about equality or redistribution of wealth?

LICTASH. After 13 years of misery from Labour, you have said the most sensible things tonight, good for you!

Harriet Harman has just introduced a bill, the Equality Bill, that is the most bigoted anti male, anti english, anti marriage, anti christian, anto family bunch of legislation ever passed. Harriet Harman is a militant feminist of a high order, and her idea of 'equitable' amount to nothing less than bigotry of the highest order. Her bill is nothing less than state sponsored prejudice.

This women, the High Priestess of Feminazism, the woman who pushed hard for all women short list, then conveniently had her husband parachuted past the short list into a safe seat, this hypocrit who pretends to want equality yet passes laws to make prejudice lawful, is a danger to society with her odious views and doctrine.

No,crystal, she's just wrong - on so much but on the Harriet Harman question specifically. It's not whether you went to Eton/other posh school, it's what you choose to do after that. DC has chosen to support the party that will most comfortably allow people like him to continue their privileged lifestyle. I believe George Orwell went to Eton and I have absolutely no problem with his political views - he had the courage to reject the received ideas that were part and parcel of a privileged background and try to create a fairer society.

Militant feminist - great! Let's have more of them!

To answer the OP, no.

I am frankly terrified of even another 5 minutes worth of this appalling Labour government who are gradually destroying the whole country

George Orwell would t urn in his grave if he saw what the Labour party had turned into. Orwell was a socialist, and a believer in the working class, in democracy, in civil liberties, and in freedom of speech.

Labour have turned there backs on the working class, labour have abandoned democracy by passing a law that allows it to pass other laws without any further parlimentary vote, they have taken away 500 years of civil liberties and rights, they have stifled freedom of speech.

George Orwell would be sick if he could see what a sham Labour have become. The party of the people - dont make me laugh, they stopped being that when Blair and his Estuary english cronies took office.

whether i agree with posters here or not, i don't understand why everyone must rely on belittling the geographic background or education of politicians - how can the country get over class if we constantly reinforce stereotypes?

Hey lincstash, don't hold back there, feel free to tell us 'feminazis' exactly what you think. (How does one get to be a feminazi, btw? Does merely believing that women are equal to men count or do I have to do something more extreme, like campaign for equal pay audits so something that has the law for more than 30 years actually does happen?)

No I'm more worried to waking up to 13 more years of labour misery!!

i agree. it doesnt make a blind bit of difference what school you went to, but labour as so desparate to get back in they have resorted to the class war.

All that matters in a politician as far as im concerned is there moral, honest , trustworthy and smart.

We know labour in its entirety fails this test, so we might as well give Cameron a try, because you have no idea what hes like unless you do give him a chance, just like we did with Blair.

To answer the OP - No.
I am v concerned at the prospect of 5 more years of this labour administration.

They seem to believe every problem with people breaking the law can be solved by bringing in more laws to restrict the liberties of the law-abiding majority, which do not solve the problems they were suposedly brought in to solve.

They believe that services can be improved by bringing in targets, which those who are trying to deliver services are distracted by trying to meet.

They use their majority of scottish MPs to pass laws that do not apply to Scotland.

The tories can't be worse!

No edam, feminazism is passing laws that make it illegal , when given the choice between two identicle job candidates, a man and a woman, to pick the man, as per Harmans Equality Bill.

Lincstash, my point was that a privileged background only becomes something to attack politicians about when they've a) used it for their own advancement (which DC undoubtedly has) and b) are fighting on a political ticket that will help safeguard it. Surely the point of politics is to look after everyone's interests and create a fairer society (gosh, sounds quite naive, but why not?)

lictash, I'm impressed that you have the balls, (are you a man?)to stand up to all the liberal lefties on this site. You say some things that they can't argue with!

lincstash, you sound like you post on the Guardian CIF site a lot

But I do have an idea what Cameron's like - and moral doesn't come into it (honest, trustworthy and smart are pretty open to debate as well). It is immoral to come into politics and support only the upper echelons of society. It's all very well paying lipservice to 'choice' and 'we're all in this together' but the truth is many people aren't in a position to make any kind of a choice about their lives - and those are the people who will suffer most under the Tories.