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Tell me why you are voting conservative this time

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Lilovoter · 10/04/2010 20:08

Some of my reasons are:

  • I want a smaller state
  • I want a society that encourages aspiration
  • Gordon Brown is odious and he and his team lack credibility and real backbone. They are frighteningly good at spin though!!!
  • I want Labout out of government and a fresh start for Britain. I do not want a Liberal/Labour coalition.
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loungelizard · 11/04/2010 23:08

I'm with onebatmother.

Linctash, you seem to be getting terribly worked up about Peter Mandleson.

TDiddy · 11/04/2010 23:10

lincstash- I am not sure what "Keynsian Monetarism" is?

I thought Thatcher was the Monetarist and Labour were more Keynesian.

bourboncreme · 11/04/2010 23:17

Because I am sick and tired of being lectured and patronised ,there is no aspect of my life that this government doesn't seem to think that it knows better than me about.I might have a professional qualification and a degree and 16 years experience of parent hood and god forbid I actually think I have some common sense but still I am not trusted to make any decisions for myself,not even what goes into my childs lunchbox or who I allow to drive him home from football practice.

I am tired of being treated like a criminal because i dare to be "middle class"whatever that means ,both I and my DH are the first generation to go to university in our families and we have worked hard to get where we are but to hear Nottingham High School(independent single sex) educated Ed Balls talk you would think that we were the devil incarnate and should be ashamed of ourselves for wanting the same opportuneties for our children.To make it worse we live in a rural area.

This Government cares not a jot for me or my family,i feel derided and made to feel ashamed for having tried to make a success of ourselves.Our pensions have been raided we are being taxed out of existance .Its not that i mind paying more tax because I don't but i really resent that hard earned money being wasted on some of the ridiculous projects this govenment has comissioned .GB has bankrupted this country,they talk about cuts but he has provided services on the never never we should never have had them in the first place this country cannot afford these things and certainly not the multitude of management consultants which the government has paid for.

I have always had an interest in politics and have brought my children up to take tyheir responsibilities to society seriously but I have never in any election until now felt physically sick to my stomach at the prospect of a leader being re elected ,I'm not a great fan of Cameron but he homestly can't be any worse and I fear for the childrens futures with Brown et al

lincstash · 11/04/2010 23:18

Monetarists
Monetarists do not believe that the government should intervene by trying to manage the level of aggregate demand. They argue that this type of interventionist policy will be destabilising in the long run and should therefore be avoided. A key problem with discretionary demand management policies is the time lags, which monetarists believe make fiscal policy too difficult to use to manage the economy effectively. The best thing therefore, is to take a long-run view of price stability and use monetary policy to achieve this.

Keynesians
Keynesians traditionally see fiscal policy as the key tool of economic management. They see the role of government as maintaining the economy at full employment. The way to do this was to manage the level of aggregate demand until the economy was at or close to full employment. If the economy was growing too fast, then fiscal policy should be essentially deflationary, and vice-versa when below full employment. Monetary policy should, in their view, simply be used as a backup to fiscal policy. However, they would argue that direct interest rate changes could be used to control aggregate demand. Their main objection to monetary policy has always been that there is a weak link between the money supply and aggregate demand, and that the money supply is difficult to control anyway.

barefootinthepark · 11/04/2010 23:18

Whoever gets in has little influence over the bigger economic picture. That will be decided by global confidence in the UK and what that needs is a change of government to Tory. If Labour are returned it doesn't matter what they do, everything will come crashing down again economically because there's no global confidence in the party as government.

Apart from that, I'm angry about the way education is has let down and continues to let down so many children. Only the privileged child can succeed in the state system these days.

I don't like the snooping either. A sea change of attitude is needed towards all that.

er this is a significant change of vote for me!

lincstash · 11/04/2010 23:25

"By loungelizard Sun 11-Apr-10 23:08:01
I'm with onebatmother.

Linctash, you seem to be getting terribly worked up about Peter Mandleson. "

Because , as i said, the presence of this guy in the Labour party should be ringing big warning bells. Hes symptomatic of just how corrupt and unsuitable to hold office labour has become.

Furthermore, if you want to get rid of corrupt MP's hes the place to start. If you vote labour, then your turning a blind eye to the whole problem of corruption in government, because hes the epitome of it.

If you vote labour, and knowing return this man to office, you may never again complain about gravy training MP's or corrupt or thieving or lying MP's because you are part of the problem by knowing putting a deeply corrupt liar into power. And in this instance, you are only either part of the problem or part of the solution.

TDiddy · 11/04/2010 23:28

*loungelizard8 - I agree; I don't find it pleasant when people pick on Cameron, Brown or Mandelson for what they are. Best to stick to the policies.

The modern media is so unforgiving that it will not take long for them to descend on various connections of the new Tory govt. Let's sit back and watch- altho' I find the modern media quite destructive.

barefootinthepark · 11/04/2010 23:32

I agree with linctash about Mandelsohn. He's a ball of slime covered in slime swimming in a bath of slimey slime.

barefootinthepark · 11/04/2010 23:37

I don't like relativism in the world of politics. It just means one can make excuses for what one wants to believe and for the way one wishes to act.

ClematisMontana · 11/04/2010 23:50

Mandelson is both dishonest and bad for politics. He never answers the question and employs various tactics to divert attention. He is very very bad for politics.

But he's not an MP. He's Lord Many.

Saying "I can't vote Tory as I remember the last Tory government" really is derbrained. It's as stoopid as voting for "change", without being clear what sort of change. Our political parties are evolving. Labour aren't even socialists any more so we shouldn't find it too difficult to accept the Tories have departed from Thatcher.

Aren't people really rude on this thread?

KatharineFlute · 12/04/2010 01:54

ClematisMontana

The Tories haven't departed from Thatcher - all the same people who idolised Thatcher, and then idolised Hague as Thatchers heir, and then idolised Iain Duncan Smith (briefly) are still there.

The only person who has tried to distance himself a little from Thatcher is Cameron but he is ploughing a lonely furrow. Most of his party are just going along with him in the hope he can win - doesn't mean they genuinely believe in him or his watered down Tory policies.

Just look at the people on the front bench - people like Hague and Michael Gove are very much Thatchers children.

The reality is that a Tory government will be more Thatcherite than Thatcher ever was as the current generation of Tories are far more extreme than she ever was.

ClematisMontana · 12/04/2010 10:11

KatharineFlute The Cameron Tories have departed from Thatcher, of course they have.

I agree there are elements of the Tory party who're still obsessed with immigration and Europe but Cameron and co are doing a good job.

Labour are also haunted by their political ghosts. This becomes more and more evident as the likelihood of them NOT being returned to power increases. Political parties tend to retreat to their left/right leanings in defeat. Just as the Tories have spend years in oppoisition being caricatures of themselves, Labour will now become caricatures of their toubled selves, in opposition.

In truth there's very little to choose between the policies of the two parties. They are both hugging the centre ground as that's where the election will be won or lost. I can't think of one substantive policy from either party that would sway my vote either way. Neither party is being honest about its tax/spend plans.

But I'll vote Tory because I honestly believe they are better placed to prevent us becoming a Greece and entering a Fisher debt spiral. If Sterling had a vote, it would vote Tory.

onebatmother · 12/04/2010 14:21

My use of the word derbrained was facetious, but not rude, I don't think, in its context. I was pointing out that a poster was being illogical ad absurdam in insisting on an equivalence in the cultural and social inheritance of being Scottish (kilts?) and that of the sub-aristocracy (power).

onebatmother · 12/04/2010 14:29

(With many apologies to the Scots, whose hackles are probably now well and truly up)

TDiddy · 12/04/2010 20:37

ClematisMontana - yes, people are so rude of this thread.

KatharineFlute - good point Cameron being a lonely Liberal with Redwood and the tax cutting evangelicals waiting to pursue their agenda. I have to say that I think DC is genuinely a Liberal decent guy. A little bit in the Tony Blair style. Didn't someone say that Cameron is TB's legacy.

scaryteacher · 14/04/2010 17:50

TDiddy - went to a senior examiners meeting yesterday for some training, most of whom were A level maths bods.

Was asking about dumbing down, and they agreed to a certain extent that it was happening.

Ripeberry · 14/04/2010 17:57

I can't wait for that live debate tomorrow on TV. Should be interesting or very dull

rocknstroll · 14/04/2010 18:06

Because I am extremely posh and rich and don't give a stuff about poor people, people who need good state schools and good NHS hospitals, or gay people who would like to use a B&B. O and I also like watching my hound tear a fox to pieces every weekend, while wearing a red coat and shouting 'YA' at the top of my voice and not having to pay inheritance tax on my enormous mansion.

smallwhitecat · 14/04/2010 18:18

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barefootinthepark · 14/04/2010 19:47

Also I guess l'll be voting for what's best for us as a family. just like most Labour voters.

rocknstroll · 15/04/2010 12:24

barefoot - it is nothnig short of HYSTERICAL that you are voting tory because ' Only the privileged child can succeed in the state system these days.'

brilliant.

barefootinthepark · 15/04/2010 12:35

OK calm down. I'm not entirely sure you know what you're laughing at but if you want me to explain, I can do.

rocknstroll · 16/04/2010 10:52

The tories are the party of the privileged! You are voting TOry as they are going to sort everything out for common people! Do some reading luv.

barefootinthepark · 16/04/2010 14:59

Rock, don't be like that. I've done a lot of reading, and never voted Tory before.

It is all about education. Education is the only lifeline for "the common people" (did you mean to say that?) of which I am, and my family has been through generations.

This style of education which Labour has set its stall by is not helping. It's not working. 115,000 children leaving primary school unable to read properly? Not good.

So you can see how a different educational approach is needed.

It's easy to see that schools with a more traditional approach are more successful (faith and private.) I would like to see that approach extended beyond the schools which largely serve privileged children. Because I don't think privileged children are any brighter than less privileged children and they deserve the same standard of education.

Therefore I vote for a more traditional approach, which means I will vote Tory.

barefootinthepark · 16/04/2010 15:02

and ps: I am voting for myself here too. A well-educated teenager is less likely to rob my house, mug my children or live off the state as a lifestyle choice.

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