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Why are people posting about stockpiling with no specifics?

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MsAmerica · 27/10/2026 22:58

I've seen it mentioned, but without a single direct quote or link. Yet the OPs seem to want others to explain it....?

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MrsPernicious · 28/10/2026 09:21

Letstryandgetitright · 28/10/2026 09:06

What has Rishi Sunak got to do with it for heaven's sake? The man whose life style was as much divorced from the reality of life as lived by the vast majority of UK citizens as someone parachuted in from.Mars.

IYKYK

MrsPapillon · 28/10/2026 09:24

Rishi Sunak did issue the advice, back in 2024. The current government has rebranded it and given it another push. The same advice has been on the government website for the past 2 and a 1/2 years.

Didimum · 28/10/2026 09:27

AliasGrape · 28/10/2026 08:53

None of these are obscure:

https://www.theguardian.com/society/2026/oct/23/realistic-and-reassuring-uk-public-responding-calmly-to-be-ready-campaign

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/cwd094x57p32o

https://www.itv.com/news/2026-10-23/what-items-are-on-the-be-ready-checklist-and-how-can-households-get-prepared

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/articles/c5rmy84np001o

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/home-news/uk-emergency-preparedness-wes-streeting-stock-up-food-b3074590.html

It was on the BBC news last night, still there on iPlayer and I’ve heard it discussed a lot on the radio too.

What’s gone a bit awry is that the media (and social media/ forums etc) are going with the more clickbaity description of ‘stockpiling’ when that’s not actually what’s being recommended.

There have been so many threads about this with many people saying the same thing. Many, many people have not found it widely broadcasted despite being daily consumers of news on mainstream news sites. It’s been peripheral, at best. You can certainly have had a different experience.

TheCabbageMerchant · 28/10/2026 09:28

Didimum · 28/10/2026 09:27

There have been so many threads about this with many people saying the same thing. Many, many people have not found it widely broadcasted despite being daily consumers of news on mainstream news sites. It’s been peripheral, at best. You can certainly have had a different experience.

I've certainly not seen any of those, but then also I scan for things that catch my eye and hoarding and stockpiling for something that will probably never happen to me isn't really something I lose any sleep over so will most likely have scrolled on by. Still will.

Badbadbunny · 28/10/2026 09:36

senua · 28/10/2026 08:51

Highly efficient just in time delivery systems rely on a "pull production" supply of goods, and large increases in the pull or interruptions can lead to empty shelves and then panic buying really quickly, which exacerbates the problem. It's a problem that can be managed by a bit of capacity in the system, but it's more efficient to place the capacity at the end of the supply chain.
In the good old days, companies held stock as a buffer. Then we adopted the Japanese Just In Time system and the Big Boys decided not to carry stock any more, and made it their suppliers' problem instead. It used to be "I want XXX next month"; now it's "I demand that you deliver next Wednesday at Loading Bay C at 11:52 precisely". Great for the Big Boy but costly for their supplier.
The Government has realised that shortages are a potential problem and, instead of insisting that companies carry sufficient stock, have decided to push the problem in another direction - onto the customer.
It's like Banks etc used to employ staff but now they don't and you - the customer - have to do the work instead (unpaid).

Yup, shops themselves had massive stores of stock. My father was manager of two Redmans stores (part of a national chain up to the 70s). Both had cellars, same size as the shop floor, one had one upper floor, the other had two upper floors. All levels always full of stock. In the cellars were large freezer/fridge rooms where they stored the perishables, i.e. cheese, butter, meat, etc. That was because it could be weeks between deliveries of non perishables like tins/packets/soft drinks/tobacco/alcohol, etc, so they needed to keep several weeks of stock. Even the perishables didn't come daily, more often every week or two.

He left and bought his own "corner newsagent" shop where we lived in the flat above - we literally lived among the stock - it was piled in the hallway, bedrooms, living room, kitchen, garage, and a couple of sheds in the garden. Seasonal stuff for Xmas, Easter, etc was stored in the loft. One year we even had a massive surplus of fireworks which we stored for the following year! In the first Easter, the previous owner had grossly over-ordered easter eggs (we suspect deliberately), so we could barely move for the damn things all over the living areas.

Nowadays, "just in time" has meant none of that is necessary. Even big supermarkets have relatively tiny storage areas - more for just handling deliveries than longer term storage. As we saw with the Co Op delivery chain outage last year, the stores didn't last more than a few days before the shelves started to become empty.

We've gone from shops having 2 or 3 times the shop floor space for storage to the opposite where the shop floor is 2 or 3 times the storage space.

Letstryandgetitright · 28/10/2026 09:39

MrsPernicious · 28/10/2026 09:21

IYKYK

I have absolutely no.idea what you mean by this. Please explain for ignoramouses like me.

Badbadbunny · 28/10/2026 09:40

TheCabbageMerchant · 28/10/2026 09:28

I've certainly not seen any of those, but then also I scan for things that catch my eye and hoarding and stockpiling for something that will probably never happen to me isn't really something I lose any sleep over so will most likely have scrolled on by. Still will.

The information is out there, but people choose not to look.

Same with the WASPI women and pensions. Huge numbers claim to have known nothing about it, but it was literally everywhere for years, if not a decade or two. It was in newspapers and magazines, it was on the TV news, it was on current affairs TV programmes, it was in leaflets in racks in GP surgeries, hospitals, libraries, etc. Leaflets were sent along with annual tax demands, PAYE code notices, benefit letters, etc. I fail to see what more the government could have done to tell them things were changing.

You can lead a horse to water but you can't make it drink.

I do think some people expect a personal phone call or door step visit from a prime minister when something changes!!

MrsPernicious · 28/10/2026 09:44

Letstryandgetitright · 28/10/2026 09:39

I have absolutely no.idea what you mean by this. Please explain for ignoramouses like me.

Rishi Sunak did start this campaign in May 2024.

The UK public is resistant to being responsible for themselves or consuming factual news.
Hence the rebrand of the campaign and a much louder push.

ViciousCurrentBun · 28/10/2026 09:51

The UK has always had an issue with supply chains because they are an island, WWI showed just how fragile the supply chain was. It’s nothing new.

What is new is people have a completely different standard of living and expectations and rolling 24 hour news. I would also question people’s resilience compared to previous generations.

There is also the very strong push to build on green belt land. It’s why people need to think a lot more about green belt land being built on and fields being lost to solar farms. All the UK does at that point is make itself more insecure food wise.

AnnPerkins · 28/10/2026 10:25

It has been part of discussion for ages. DH started buying extra tins and bags of pasta a couple of months ago and we always keep a stash of bottled water because of problems with the water mains in our village. If there's a heavy snowfall and we can't leave the village or a cyber attack on supermarkets or undersea cables are cut and the internet is fucked or whatever we will be able to sustain ourselves for a few days.

I think the main message is they want to avoid panic buying (ironic I know because it's caused some people to do just that) but when everyone calms down hopefully many people will be a bit more self-sustaining for a few days should there be an event that prevents people doing their normal shopping for a while. If there's less panic buying there will be more left on the shelves for people who can't stockpile for whatever reason.

TheCabbageMerchant · 28/10/2026 10:31

AnnPerkins · 28/10/2026 10:25

It has been part of discussion for ages. DH started buying extra tins and bags of pasta a couple of months ago and we always keep a stash of bottled water because of problems with the water mains in our village. If there's a heavy snowfall and we can't leave the village or a cyber attack on supermarkets or undersea cables are cut and the internet is fucked or whatever we will be able to sustain ourselves for a few days.

I think the main message is they want to avoid panic buying (ironic I know because it's caused some people to do just that) but when everyone calms down hopefully many people will be a bit more self-sustaining for a few days should there be an event that prevents people doing their normal shopping for a while. If there's less panic buying there will be more left on the shelves for people who can't stockpile for whatever reason.

I think what I find strange - is don't most people have stuff in their cupboards anyway? Genuinely.

There's always beans, tinned soup, tomatoes, pasta, sauce etc hanging around. The stuff people have been sharing on their lists is just run-of-the-mill items. We always replace stuff as we use it. I think that's what I am struggling to get my head around.

I understand the having candles and bottled water, or whatever else but food - nobody is going to starve in most households if they have to hunker down for 3-5 days.

MrsPernicious · 28/10/2026 10:49

Genuinely @TheCabbageMerchant repeated surveys show that 50%+ do not have 3 days worth of food in the home.

I keep a reasonable larder, it has got us through snow, power cuts and injuries. I consider it normal, turns out I am in a minority.

bellinisurge · 28/10/2026 10:54

OP, this is not a new conversation. UK is an outlier in Europe for this. There is zero need for drama and conspiracy theories. Just make sure your household can look after itself for a few days while the authorities get on with sorting any issues caused by eg weather or cyberattacks (remember the fridges in French supermarkets) etc.
They could say “don’t be that entitled arsehole that expects everything on a plate when we need to focus on anyone genuinely vulnerable”

Douglasmummy · 28/10/2026 11:20

TheCabbageMerchant · 28/10/2026 10:31

I think what I find strange - is don't most people have stuff in their cupboards anyway? Genuinely.

There's always beans, tinned soup, tomatoes, pasta, sauce etc hanging around. The stuff people have been sharing on their lists is just run-of-the-mill items. We always replace stuff as we use it. I think that's what I am struggling to get my head around.

I understand the having candles and bottled water, or whatever else but food - nobody is going to starve in most households if they have to hunker down for 3-5 days.

Yes surely people have food for 3 days in their cupboards.But things like matches, candles, something to cook with, torches, radios etc rather than food necessarily.

tomorrowfollowstoday · 28/10/2026 11:25

Douglasmummy · 28/10/2026 11:20

Yes surely people have food for 3 days in their cupboards.But things like matches, candles, something to cook with, torches, radios etc rather than food necessarily.

Many people do not. Two reasons - different approach to shopping and lack of money.

Never assume everyone is just like you.

AnnPerkins · 28/10/2026 11:25

TheCabbageMerchant · 28/10/2026 10:31

I think what I find strange - is don't most people have stuff in their cupboards anyway? Genuinely.

There's always beans, tinned soup, tomatoes, pasta, sauce etc hanging around. The stuff people have been sharing on their lists is just run-of-the-mill items. We always replace stuff as we use it. I think that's what I am struggling to get my head around.

I understand the having candles and bottled water, or whatever else but food - nobody is going to starve in most households if they have to hunker down for 3-5 days.

No lots of people don't, even if they can afford it or have somewhere to keep it, because they don't see a need to. Since we put a larger store cupboard in our kitchen a couple of years ago I would often buy extra tinned tomatoes etc when I saw them on offer but didn't make a point of it.

Now I like to have a level of supply where I could always make a meal of sorts.

I think that's what the guidance is trying to say, albeit not very well, there's nothing to worry about but if you can keep a few extra days' worth of supplies it could help to avoid shortages if there is an event that sparks panic buying.

dwordle · 28/10/2026 11:26

A bag of carrots is enough to keep you going for three days.

This is just common sense, a can of beans, a can of soup, bag of apples, can of tuna ...that's all it means. I could simply go fishing a catch a mackerel in summer or Pollock in winter and id smoke it myself.

People buying 400 litres of water 100 cans of beans is plain stupidity.

SheilaFentiman · 28/10/2026 11:41

MsAmerica · 27/10/2026 22:58

I've seen it mentioned, but without a single direct quote or link. Yet the OPs seem to want others to explain it....?

If only there was a freely available search engine where you could find out. We could call it Boogle.

MistyMountainTop · 28/10/2026 12:10

I guess many people on here are too young to remember the 1970s public information films!

www.bbc.co.uk/videos/cv2g0jvdvexo

MrsPapillon · 28/10/2026 13:01

SheilaFentiman · 28/10/2026 11:41

If only there was a freely available search engine where you could find out. We could call it Boogle.

Absolutely this!

The same people who can’t be arsed even googling something are the same entitled lot who will expect the government to come running to their aid in the event of an emergency. Idiots who are saying “Well I’m not going to buy a couple of extra tins of beans unless they tell me exactly why we need to!”

Newsflash: They don’t know! The government don’t know if it’s going to be because of a storm, or a power cut or cyber attack or flood or war or whatever. Nobody can give you the exacting answers you want.

We prepare for exactly the same reasons we buy home insurance, without knowing exactly if, when and how our homes will damaged.

Badbadbunny · 28/10/2026 13:16

Douglasmummy · 28/10/2026 11:20

Yes surely people have food for 3 days in their cupboards.But things like matches, candles, something to cook with, torches, radios etc rather than food necessarily.

Lots of people living, say, in HMOs and Uni flats don't have space for excess food storage, i.e. when they only have one shelf in the fridge for everything chilled, only one cupboard in the kitchen, etc.

senua · 28/10/2026 13:43

The UK has always had an issue with supply chains because they are an island, WWI showed just how fragile the supply chain was. It’s nothing new.
It's funny how Amazon Prime can get you plastic tat from China on a next-day delivery service for £1.99 including p&p but making sure the population is fed is a problem beyond the Government's control.
Shows where the priorities are!

NewGirlInTown · 28/10/2026 13:46

The frightening thing is the medicine supply chain.
We are not allowed to order prescriptions in advance of a certain date, so the amounts held by individuals would run out very quickly.
I do wish the Government would tell us what they are doing to MANAGE specific risks like this, given they are supposedly IN CHARGE!

bellinisurge · 28/10/2026 14:15

@senua it can supply plastic tat next day if it has it in stock

SheilaFentiman · 28/10/2026 14:42

senua · 28/10/2026 13:43

The UK has always had an issue with supply chains because they are an island, WWI showed just how fragile the supply chain was. It’s nothing new.
It's funny how Amazon Prime can get you plastic tat from China on a next-day delivery service for £1.99 including p&p but making sure the population is fed is a problem beyond the Government's control.
Shows where the priorities are!

Plastic tat is (notoriously) non-degradable and can be stored at room temp, in damp or dry environments etc. For many types of food and medicine, that's not the case.