Why are no other parties putting forward candidates in the Clacton by election?

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I understand that they do not want to participate in the Farage political stunt but if no one but Farage and Bin Face stand surely no one will vote in Bin Face? Then Farage gets back in? If only 2 people turn out to vote is that enough to get either one in?

I have tried to read what will happen but it just seems to be about not participating in this stunt with no explanation as to what happens then.

But why is he resigning though? For what reason? He's already the MP. He doesn't need to resign

@Junobaby because they stop looking into his dodgy finances

Yeah I know. I just want that poster to answer the question, instead of just going on about how it's undemocratic of the other parties not to run. I'm asking why it's even necessary to have an by-election in the first place, when's he's already the MP for Clacton

If Farage is re elected
the investigation of his funding restarts
it is then likely that there will be a "Recall Petition" and a by election

therefore its a strong chance that he burns through £1,100,000 in by elections to still be found a crook.

In this by election other parties have decided to let him have his vanity fest alone.
Binface is making him face the voters

@Junobaby he’s resigned so there has to be a by-election

In the event that he is re-elected and the standards committee completes their investigation and doesn't suspend him for 10 days, thus making it possible to trigger a by-election, this by-election is still an unnecessary circus.

If the other parties did participate they would be setting a precedent where every MP with a safe seat could throw their toys out of the pram and trigger a by-election whenever they face any kind of scrutiny. Corbyn could have done the same when the Labour Party were being investigated for anti-semitism.

Farage's logic is that the rules don't matter if you can get enough votes, and that isn't how civilised countries function.

You (and the mainstream political parties) disagree with his reasons for resigning so that means that the local electorate shouldn’t have a choice of candidates and the chance to speak to political representatives about their parties? When did we make the electorate responsible for the actions of their MP?

Like everyone else they had a chance to vote 2 years ago and there has been no suggestion that they are unhappy with this state of affairs.

Should we have elections every few months just to check?

You (and the mainstream political parties) disagree with his reasons for resigning

Yes. He is resigning to avoid the same scrutiny that any other MP would face in the same situation. Do you think the rules shouldn't apply to Farage?

If the calls Jenrick received on LBC from Reform supporters are anything to go by even their own voters disagree with Farage’s reasons for resigning.

Oh honey. Nigel is the establishment. He couldn't be any more establishment if he had the word tattooed on his butt

Privately educated, wealthy.

From Wikipedia....

Nigel Paul Farage was born on 3 April 1964 in Farnborough, Kent, England,[8][9][10] the son of Barbara (née Stevens) and Guy Justus Oscar Farage.[11][12][13] His father was a stockbroker who worked in the City of London

Farage's first school was Greenhayes School for Boys in West Wickham, and he subsequently spent a short period at a similar school in nearby Eden Park.[20] From 1975 to 1982 Farage was educated at Dulwich College, a fee-paying private school in south London. Politicians visited the school, including Keith Joseph, Edward Heath and Enoch Powell. Farage joined the Conservative Party in 1978 after Joseph's visit.[21]

After leaving school in 1982, Farage obtained employment in the City of London, as a commodities trader.[11] Initially, he joined the American commodity operation of brokerage firm Drexel Burnham Lambert,[13] transferring to Crédit Lyonnais Rouse in 1986.[13] He joined Refco in 1994, and Natixis Metals in 2003.[13]

The point is he isn't resigning. He is standing again
What do you think his reason is? All I can see is he doesn't like the scrutiny so he can argue that the people of Clacton voted him in again so the parliamentary process shouldn't apply to him.
If the people of Clacton decide to elect a criminal that's on them but it doesn't make him less of a criminal or that he should be held to account or made to explain who funds him and why. No matter how many times they re elect him.

To be pedantic, the parliamentary standards committee isn't accusing him of a criminal offence. They just want him to comply with parliamentary regulations that require that he is transparent about his sources of funds.

I'm happy to be corrected, but as far as I understand he could carry on like this for years if the voters of Clacton continue to re-elect him. However, I suspect the wider electorate are already less tolerant of his 'poor me' wingeing, and I'm sure the people of Clacton also have their limits.

Farage is performative and he's also worried about the investigations into his finances. Calling a by election is a farce. The other parties, by not participating in his farce, are showing him for the idiot he is. Vote Binman and bin Farage!!!!!

It's ok, the proper by-election a few weeks later after Farage is proven to be corrupt will have a full spread of candidates from all parties. The pointless preliminary one now doesn't require any other candidates and is best just got out of the way asap so that the corruption investigations can continue. It's entirely up to the people of Clacton if they want to skip round 2 because they are already fed up, but they can stick with Farage until his dishonourable actions are fully proven if they wish.

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Can you explain how Reform is not part of the establishment?

Farrago doesn’t realise the real politics is more than just a popularity contest, that throwing out sound bites isnt enough. There are rules, scrutiny, policies and laws to follow. He genuinely thinks that as long as his supporters are ok with him taking and moving money around against those codes it’s all good.

So he’s resigned to then get re-elected so he can say ‘see - I told you - no one cares’.

Unfortunately a lot of people DO care and he’s now moved into a position he can’t sustain because the whole thing is built on bullshit baffles (racist) brains. At this point ‘but immigrants’ is of zero consequence or meaning.

At most it’s a vanity project, at worst it’s hoping to evade scrutiny. Whether he gets back in or not, the scales are dropping from many people’s eyes. Saying ‘it’s mine, I can spend it on what I like, 10 Ferraris if I want’ are not the words of a leader who is putting working people first. The sooner they all wake up to that the better for everyone.

They have got a choice of candidates. Multiple people have already confirmed they'll run, some of whom are members of parties who would be able to speak to voters about that.

The larger political parties aren't standing because they and only they are in charge of what they do. Neither the local electorate nor any other members of the public get to decide that a party have to run a candidate even if they don't want to and might not have a member willing to do it. Whatever next, conscription of party members to stand?

Which is understandable. He's properly fucked up here, and now they have to divert resources away from the GM by-election where I'm sure the members would like a strong showing. I can't imagine any of them saw this stunt coming.

Please explain how Nigel Farage is anything other than part of the establishment?

He is a public school educated commodities trader. His father was a stockbroker.

His other problem is that he is trying to use Trump's playbook at a time when Trump isn't even trying to hide his monetising of political office.

To go back to the thread title:

A bin, two foxes and a mystic: the candidates fighting Clacton - BBC News https://share.google/ExBmT8vbYjZO5M7Nk

Christopher Harborne - the 'gift' giver.

Westminster
Cambridge
INSEAD
McKinsey

'Posh George' - the man who allowed to Farage to use his house/paid for his office staff

Father went to school with Prince Andrew
Expelled from Malvern college
Uncle is Alexander Fermor-Hesketh, 3rd Baron Hesketh, a hereditary peer and former Chief Whip for the Conservatives in the House of Lords. Former Conservative Party treasurer.

Fiona Watson - 'donor' of the £500K being investigated by the police

Mother of Posh George
Daughter of 3rd Baron Manton
Ex girlfriend of the King

But the establishment is ganging up on Farage by asking him to follow parliamentary rules?

Seems more like 'the establishment' is having a hissy fit because they always thought they were above the rules.

I saw a good post or article or something the other day on this point. The person was saying whatever you think of Trump, that schtick evidently works better with someone who's filthy rich and powerful themselves. He's made colossal amounts of money from his, erm, business activities. Farage so obviously isn't in that league. Basically I think the idea was you have to be spectacularly rich to pull that off. Put another zero on the 5 million maybe.

Quite!