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Does anyone really think The Lord’s Prayer and The National Anthem…

58 replies

CurlewKate · 22/05/2026 13:42

…belong in Council meetings? And if so-why?

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Twiglets1 · 03/06/2026 05:30

No … keep religion out of secular spaces in my opinion.

Yes that includes schools (unless in a faith school).

FlatErica · 03/06/2026 06:35

Nope.

mumumental · 03/06/2026 19:04

What is this desperate pushing of the Christian agenda these days? I bet it isn’t coming from actual practising Christians!

CurlewKate · 03/06/2026 19:31

Dog whistle racism.

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BendoftheBeginning · 03/06/2026 19:40

Wizeman · 29/05/2026 00:03

Yes, the country is built on Christianity. All the basic values you use everyday even if your not a Christian are Christian values. You dont have to join in if you dont want to. National anthem yes, people should try to be more patriotic.

And liberalism, the scientific enlightenment, the rights of man (now known as human rights) are all rooted in Christianity as well. Which is why fake Christians are so easy to spot. They think they can use Christianity as a cudgel to harm others, but actually to be Christian is to allow the teachings of Jesus to flow through you and lift others up.

PerkingFaintly · 03/06/2026 20:38

They're rooted in lots of other cultures as well – a reality it takes enormous contortions to ignore.

Polytheistic classical Greek and Roman cultures are the bedrock of British high-status culture. The languages are still taught in schools, texts from that time are used to shape the values of Britain's ruling class ( Boris Johnson trotting out classical tags to show-off), classical architecture has been imitated in the UK for centuries for our major buildings, and classical art is preserved in our museums.

We get much of the English language from Latin and Greek, particularly in the sciences and even our word for democracy. (The US goes one further and refers to its upper chamber as the Senate, populated by the Democrat and Republican parties, respectively Greek and Latin)

Roman Law forms the basis of most legal systems in Europe and in the English-speaking world. Slightly less so in England, but very strongly in Scotland (the British home of that Enlightenment mentioned by PP).

Jury trials in the UK are the legacy of Viking law.

The Romans didn't bring hypocausts to the British Isles because of Christianity. The first Roman Emperor to become Christian, Constantine I, didn't convert till about 312 AD.

And the knowledge of classical mathematics and science, on which the C18th enlightenment was built, was transmitted to northern Europe in the C12th, C13th & C14th by the Islamic scholars of the Mediterranean who had preserved it, assimilated it and added plenty of their own knowledge. Which is why many of our mathematical words like algebra and algorithm are Arabic. Oh yeah, and those Arabic numerals and that zero from India...

Maybe that's why Farage's Brexiteer pals had "had enough of experts"? Perhaps they felt those wretched scientist-y people who could do maths were practising a foreign culture? Grin

PerkingFaintly · 03/06/2026 20:46

NB being Christian didn't prevent everyone from doing science.

But living one's Christianity wasn't a prerequisite for it either.

Oh, that's got me onto Galileo, Darwin, and the persecution of scientists down the ages whose work was seen to conflict with the Bible – or merely with various Christian power elites' convenient beliefs... Arghh, I'll stop now.

Whatifitallgoesright · 05/06/2026 14:11

anniegun · 22/05/2026 18:11

Performative nonsense from the party that wants to sow hate and division. They are just trying to stir up a fuss. I doubt they know the words to both and probably do not live by the values of the Lords Prayer.

Here's Bristol Council sowing hate and division with the islamic call to prayer.

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