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Reform voters, which policies do you support beyond immigration?

157 replies

Sheepydoggo · 21/05/2026 11:51

If you voted for Reform, what policies do you like aside from immigration reform?

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BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 17:22

EEexpat · 21/05/2026 16:53

@HappiestSleeping

Farage was such a proponent of Brexshit which made immigration worse.

As long as the number of people entering the EU via the Eastern European border and the Mediterranean Sea increases there will be greater numbers arriving in Calais.

Is the UK responsible for the EU failure to control their borders?

No they are not.

BTW. Use of the word Brexshit will not make you more employable.

Did @HappiestSleeping say they were unemployed?

HappiestSleeping · 21/05/2026 17:23

EEexpat · 21/05/2026 16:53

@HappiestSleeping

Farage was such a proponent of Brexshit which made immigration worse.

As long as the number of people entering the EU via the Eastern European border and the Mediterranean Sea increases there will be greater numbers arriving in Calais.

Is the UK responsible for the EU failure to control their borders?

No they are not.

BTW. Use of the word Brexshit will not make you more employable.

Is the UK responsible for the EU failure to control their borders?

No they are not, I agree, however there was also more the UK could have done without leaving the EU. Leaving the EU reduced the amount of assistance the French gave, and made the problem worse. Couple that with Boris, and you have a government that encouraged people to come, and reduced and help preventing it. Total own goal.

BTW. Use of the word Brexshit will not make you more employable.

Depends on who you speak to.

EEexpat · 21/05/2026 17:36

If governments weren’t burning money pointlessly, they would be able to increase the personal allowance threshold to at least align with inflation. About £15500 compared to the current £12570. That would cost the UK about £7 billion.

HS2 initial budget was £40 billion. Final cost is expected to exceed £100 billion.

Train drivers pay rise cost £9 billion without any increase in performance needed.

Housing immigrants costs about £120 per person per day. That could be reduced to £20 per day if people used the rent a room scheme. A saving to the government of approximately £2 billion per year.

Lockdowns during COVID cost between £300 and £400 billion. I was flying in and out of the EU each week and never had an issue. Tested weekly and always wore a mask and bottle of antibacterial liquid in my pocket.

JenniElection · 21/05/2026 17:58

EarthlyNightshade · 21/05/2026 16:05

Would you actually pay the extra import and export costs for your family and friends?
I can't send presents to the EU any more without having to pay huge import/export duty. I stopped, but I would restart if I have a brexit friend who would pay the costs.

Genuinely Yes!

We are a close family and have a tight friendship group. We pick each other up from the airport, babysit each other's children, and I have in the past lent money (a small amount of savings) to help them out. (We're not well off)

So if they could not afford to send presents to family members. We would help them. Not all support needs to come from the state.

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:00

RedTagAlan · 21/05/2026 14:47

Is it not a good thing if landlords sell up?

More housing stock on the market might help cool prices down.

It's not good for people looking to rent. Fewer houses to rent means higher rent.

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:04

HobGobblynne · 21/05/2026 16:57

Ex military already have priority for social housing. I work in housing allocation and it’s one of the top criteria here, even over and above families being made homeless.

Some are living on the streets opposite the immigrants in hotel accommodation. It's been in papers.

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 19:06

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:00

It's not good for people looking to rent. Fewer houses to rent means higher rent.

More houses on the market all at once is good news for first time buyers.

harrassedmum · 21/05/2026 19:06

JenniElection · 21/05/2026 12:15

Quite simply, I don't really care. They're not ideal if there was a better alternative, I'd vote for them, but there isn't. It's the same reason I voted Leave and am still happy with the outcome. I just want a change in my lifetime. Brexit gave me a conservative MP in an area where you could put up a poodle in a red rosette, and they have got in. Last week we elected a reform councillor again, never thought I'd see the day.

My opinion is anyone but Labour, anyone but the Conservatives, and as with Brexit, I am fully prepared to deal with any fallout that affects myself or my family and friends. It's a cost I am willing to pay.

Obviously that’s your choice to make but I just can’t understand how a bunch of millionaire backed ex tories can be the change you are looking for

Marycontrarygarden · 21/05/2026 19:06

JenniElection · 21/05/2026 12:15

Quite simply, I don't really care. They're not ideal if there was a better alternative, I'd vote for them, but there isn't. It's the same reason I voted Leave and am still happy with the outcome. I just want a change in my lifetime. Brexit gave me a conservative MP in an area where you could put up a poodle in a red rosette, and they have got in. Last week we elected a reform councillor again, never thought I'd see the day.

My opinion is anyone but Labour, anyone but the Conservatives, and as with Brexit, I am fully prepared to deal with any fallout that affects myself or my family and friends. It's a cost I am willing to pay.

Jesus 🙄

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:09

HappiestSleeping · 21/05/2026 15:14

Absolutely. The other thing I can't fathom is buying in to "reductions in this tax, or that tax" with no plan of how those reductions are to be funded.

Whilst I realise that any government can promise the Earth, and deliver a pebble, there is an element here of Reform being so far away from a majority, they can promise the moon on a stick, and have very little chance of ever being made to deliver it. I could run for office with a policy of removing all tax, which I'm sure would be very popular. You can say what you like from the sidelines.

In the unlikely event that Reform do get in, and they have to do something, Farage has history of being a disruptor only (watch how quickly he disappeared after Brexshit). I would fully expect him to resign if he ever did become PM. Just look at how many Reform councillors have resigned since being elected only two weeks ago. It's almost one per day.

Oh, and for the avoidance of doubt, I know that it is not impossible for Reform to get elected at the next general election, but it is staggeringly unlikely that they would be able to field and win 318 new MPs. If it ended up a coalition, it would be very interesting to see how quickly Kemi would want to do a deal.

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The savings come from not paying immigrants benefits of any kind until they have paid into the system for 5-10 years.

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 19:10

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:09

The savings come from not paying immigrants benefits of any kind until they have paid into the system for 5-10 years.

The figures don’t stack up, however much you might want them to.

Badbadbunny · 21/05/2026 19:13

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:00

It's not good for people looking to rent. Fewer houses to rent means higher rent.

It's not just cost either. With fewer properties available for rent, the landlords can be a lot more "picky" as to who they rent to, meaning much bigger problems for those on benefits, or with pets, or who can't manage stairs, etc as there are even fewer properties available for them, even if they could afford the higher rents.

HobGobblynne · 21/05/2026 19:13

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:04

Some are living on the streets opposite the immigrants in hotel accommodation. It's been in papers.

I mean they’re not going to be collected off the street. If they want the help, there are endless charities to assist ex military people.

But if they are on the housing list, they have priority. Unlike the “immigrants” (presume you mean asylum seekers) in hotels who have no recourse to public assistance.

harrassedmum · 21/05/2026 19:14

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:09

The savings come from not paying immigrants benefits of any kind until they have paid into the system for 5-10 years.

Many of them have no recourse to public funds anyway

HobGobblynne · 21/05/2026 19:16

harrassedmum · 21/05/2026 19:06

Obviously that’s your choice to make but I just can’t understand how a bunch of millionaire backed ex tories can be the change you are looking for

Agree.

@JenniElection the idea that “anything else is better” is baffling. Kim Jong Un wouldn’t be better, Vladimir Putin wouldn’t be better, Isaias Afwerki wouldn’t be better.

HappiestSleeping · 21/05/2026 19:23

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:09

The savings come from not paying immigrants benefits of any kind until they have paid into the system for 5-10 years.

But they don't do this now unless they're entitled to it, so where would this extra money come from?

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:33

Gingerbreadtree · 21/05/2026 14:56

This is why I don't get it. And their front bench is comprised of ex tories, who are entirely responsible for the explosion in immigration numbers. It's nonsensical to anyone who's thought it through. Which sadly I don't think any of their voters have, beyond "... There are too many brown people and I don't like them"!

I go to branch meetings every month and I have never once heard anyone mention brown people. Some members are brown people.

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:36

HappiestSleeping · 21/05/2026 19:23

But they don't do this now unless they're entitled to it, so where would this extra money come from?

Official statistics show between £10-12 billion each year is paid by UC to a household with an immigrant in. That's 16.5 percent of all UC paid. That would be the saving to the UK.

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 19:43

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:36

Official statistics show between £10-12 billion each year is paid by UC to a household with an immigrant in. That's 16.5 percent of all UC paid. That would be the saving to the UK.

Increasing the personal allowance to the mythical £20k would cost a lot more than £10billion.

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:48

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 19:06

More houses on the market all at once is good news for first time buyers.

There are already many houses on market for first time buyers to buy.

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 19:50

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:48

There are already many houses on market for first time buyers to buy.

And more will mean the price drops. Market forces, dontcha know? It’s already a buyers’ market.

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:53

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 19:43

Increasing the personal allowance to the mythical £20k would cost a lot more than £10billion.

Other savings £12k on proceeding cost for every asylum application. Iro £4 billion each year. ATM the government pays an average of £53k -£106k depending on how long to process claim for every individual asylum seeker.

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 19:55

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:53

Other savings £12k on proceeding cost for every asylum application. Iro £4 billion each year. ATM the government pays an average of £53k -£106k depending on how long to process claim for every individual asylum seeker.

Sounds like Rwanda to me. £700 million down the Swanee and not a single asylum seeker gone.

GalaDinner · 21/05/2026 19:55

Sheepydoggo · 21/05/2026 11:51

If you voted for Reform, what policies do you like aside from immigration reform?

None of your business dear. Such an obvious shill.

caringcarer · 21/05/2026 19:56

BIossomtoes · 21/05/2026 19:50

And more will mean the price drops. Market forces, dontcha know? It’s already a buyers’ market.

I think more people just won't move or sell.

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