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Oh Lord! Kent County Council

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Imdunfer · 11/05/2026 06:31

Kent County Council under Reform are putting a vote to full council to start council meetings with the Lords Prayer.

I get the anti Muslim bit, but don't they realise how many of us are atheists?

They also want to sing the National Anthem. I can sort of see their point with that one, but it's not going to get the bins collected, is it?

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Luddite26 · 11/05/2026 20:53

CoffeeAndACroissant · 11/05/2026 06:55

🙄 Because we can see from America, Israel, and most Muslim countries just how well religion entwined with politics works.

Anyway, if you find yourself with a Reform led Council, put them to work!

Time to email your Councillor about that pothole / lack of bin collections / litter on the streets / poor quality street lighting / long delay to care package starting / long delay to OT assessment.

See how long they last when they realise the job isn't all about racist rhetoric and prayer meetings.

The bins are ok round us so hoping they don't mess up now. Everything council run was great tbh except pot holes of course. We will see what happens now our Labour council has been given the boot. We live 200 metres from an asylum hotel so expecting that to be shut by the end of the week. Watch this space. I mean that's what they've said they will do.
I think a few people will get a taste of you don't know what you've got till it's gone.
But I'm definitely going to be watching.

pointythings · 11/05/2026 20:59

yellowbarnoreturns · 11/05/2026 19:51

Fun, sounds like show and tell.
Will they also do some productive work? 😂

No more and no less than councillors who are not humanist.

Of course my preference would be to just skip the whole thing and get down to the work.

Oncemorewithsome · 11/05/2026 23:01

GenialHarrietGrouty · 11/05/2026 09:11

Time for an enterprising journalist to make inquiries in the local churches of every Reform councillor to see how many actually turn up to Sunday services.

I can tell you that our Reform councillor who frequently spoke about the Church of England never set foot in the parish church of his ward. Probably for the best re: the reform councillor as I doubt he would have found any of the sermons very to his liking - speaking about love, forgiveness and mercy isn’t really up his street!

Dilbertian · 11/05/2026 23:07

WildGarden · 11/05/2026 19:08

Having just watched The Pilgrimage shows this could be a good thing.

The people taking part all experience bits of each other's faiths and really enjoy and benefit from it. Of course they're open minded and are seeking greater understanding from the outset. Would the Reform candidates approach it in the same way I wonder?

'The Pilgrimage" suggests that all these people came together for the purpose of something related to practicing faith. The people in the council chamber are not attending a prayer meeting or an inter-faith sharing experience. They have come together for the purpose of working out how the bins will be emptied, the roadworks scheduled, the playparks repaired, etc etc etc and how to assign budgets to all these needs. And some will be there simply to further their political ambitions.

There is no place for any sectarian prayer in the Council Chamber.

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 12/05/2026 03:02

Dilbertian · 11/05/2026 16:59

A shared sense of purpose through singing the National Anthem - fair enough. But reciting a prayer that is meaningful to less than half of the population is divisive. It serves to emphasise differences. It creates hostility to those who do not wish to participate and excludes from public service those whose faith forbids them from participation in the prayers of other faiths.

The UK may be nominally Christian, but IIRC only about 40% of the UK population identified as Christian in the last census. Would Reform say that every meeting should begin with recitation of Reform slogans or their manifesto? It’s just as reasonable as beginning with The Lord’s Prayer.

No one will be forced to participate. Stay quiet and reflective.

Dilbertian · 12/05/2026 08:01

When I am a guest at a funeral Mass or an Eid, or if my host Grace before dinner, then I will stay quiet and reflective. Expecting me to stay quiet and reflective when I am a representative of my town community, attending the Council Chamber to carry out the public service to which I was elected, emphasises that I am a guest, that this is not my place. Put up and shut up, foreigner!

Imdunfer · 12/05/2026 08:08

Nothavingagoodvalentinesday · 12/05/2026 03:02

No one will be forced to participate. Stay quiet and reflective.

They will be forced to witness one group of people acting separately from the rest or be excluded from the room.

It's not appropriate.

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WildGarden · 12/05/2026 10:00

Dilbertian · 11/05/2026 23:07

'The Pilgrimage" suggests that all these people came together for the purpose of something related to practicing faith. The people in the council chamber are not attending a prayer meeting or an inter-faith sharing experience. They have come together for the purpose of working out how the bins will be emptied, the roadworks scheduled, the playparks repaired, etc etc etc and how to assign budgets to all these needs. And some will be there simply to further their political ambitions.

There is no place for any sectarian prayer in the Council Chamber.

My post was a bit tongue about open mindedness, understanding and the type of people who do and don't come together seeking the things they have in common rather than the things that divide them.

I agree with you. The nationalistic sing song and prayers is a nonsense in what is essentially a workplace.

Snakebite61 · 12/05/2026 15:30

Imdunfer · 11/05/2026 06:31

Kent County Council under Reform are putting a vote to full council to start council meetings with the Lords Prayer.

I get the anti Muslim bit, but don't they realise how many of us are atheists?

They also want to sing the National Anthem. I can sort of see their point with that one, but it's not going to get the bins collected, is it?

They are spending loads of money on advisors because they don't know what they are doing.

Snakebite61 · 12/05/2026 15:33

EnduringEthel · 11/05/2026 06:50

Agreed.

@Imdunfer it happens in councils all over the country. Not suprising that Reform are hanging their hat on something that they consider conveys their unique sense of Britishness. I suspect they will make a big deal of this all over the country.

Staggering really that public funds were spent taking embodying this in legislation, maybe not staggering when you think about the representation in the House of Lords.

When you read Pickles' words with where the UK has moved to in 2026 they are a chilling:

Communities and Local Government Secretary and Minister for Faith Eric Pickles said:
The right to worship is a fundamental and hard-fought British liberty, and the fight for religious freedom in British history is deeply entwined with the political freedoms we take for granted.
Building on what we have already delivered through the Localism Act, this further Act strikes a further victory for localism, for freedom to worship over intolerant and aggressive secularism, for long-standing British liberties over modern-day political correctness, and for parliamentary sovereignty over judicial activism.

Reform, the English magas. Christianity is on a constant decline. Just fascism rearing it's ugly head. People are so full of hate and ignorance xx

Desperatelyseekinglazysusan · 12/05/2026 15:52

Oncemorewithsome · 11/05/2026 23:01

I can tell you that our Reform councillor who frequently spoke about the Church of England never set foot in the parish church of his ward. Probably for the best re: the reform councillor as I doubt he would have found any of the sermons very to his liking - speaking about love, forgiveness and mercy isn’t really up his street!

Churches are also pretty ethnically diverse too. When I go Id say its less than 50% White.

NotDarkGothicMama · 13/05/2026 12:25

Kent should think themselves lucky they don't have the reform councillor up in Doncaster wanting a committee to monitor UFO activity.

MajorLanceYouDontWantMeNoMoreNsoul · 13/05/2026 12:34

Thought Reform were going to get stuck in to the day job
Singing the National Anthem
And the Lords prayer is top of the pops for them.
Clueless cunts springs to mind.

HoppityBun · 14/05/2026 10:55

No mention of flags? Surely there should be flag waving? Compulsory flag waving?

Boomer55 · 14/05/2026 16:34

We are (majority wise) a Christian country. If we must have prayers (not sure why) then obviously it should be our primary religion. 🤷‍♀️

If it was in other countries, then they would use their primary religion.

EnduringEthel · 14/05/2026 16:57

The majority of the population identify as something other than Christian though.

pointythings · 14/05/2026 16:58

Boomer55 · 14/05/2026 16:34

We are (majority wise) a Christian country. If we must have prayers (not sure why) then obviously it should be our primary religion. 🤷‍♀️

If it was in other countries, then they would use their primary religion.

Latest census suggests the UK is not a majority Christian country - the largest group is 'no faith'. So no prayers it is then.

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