Greens in London- I must have been living under a rock!

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I have been quite busy at work recently so not following local politics that closely, but I had been reading the leaflets through my door and got the impression that my local council was a simple Labour v Lib Dem race.

I’m in a London Borough with a long history of Labour control. Thought it was time for a change, duly cast my votes for the Lib Dems only to wake up today and find that the Greens had come within 100 votes of unseating Labour in my ward, they have won loads of other wards, Labour has lost control and it’s now NOC with Greens second biggest party.
And the borough next door has a Green mayor and there are Green controlled councils all over London!

The Lib Dems are nowhere to be seen.

(I am ignoring Tories and Reform as they are totally irrelevant round here). How did I not see this coming?

I have nothing against the Greens, would possibly have voted for them if I’d realised they were a viable second party.

My London Borough stayed Lib Dem. Only a few seats are not Lib Dem. And Richmond got rid of its Green councillors and the entire council is now Lib Dem. But I guess it comes down to demographics of where you are plus the Greens didn't campaign round my way at all.

They don’t think that the modern state of Israel should exist, and many regularly attend the Free Palestine demos. Basically they think the establishment of Israel before the coming of the Messiah is blasphemous and that the modern state of Israel is an affront to God. Make of that what you will.

I think this reflects your perception - fuelled by the media - on Labour’s performance in government, rather than reality.

As an example Keir Starmer and his govt have successfully got rid of the two child limit benefit cap. This will contribute towards reducing inequality and alleviating poverty.

But with a population and media that on the whole ignores actual policy change, in favour of vague notions that ‘Keir’s a bit rubbish’, the actual policies that have been enacted get overlooked.

Thanks for this, really interesting. I'm in Hackney where both the mayoralty and the council have gone Green. They appear to have big plans. But I suspect they'll find that it's a lot easier telling the people in power they're doing it wrong, than it is to be the ones in power doing it right!

Since our new Green Mayor says that the reason he left Labour last year is because of Gaza, it's not just an issue on Mumsnet. Plenty of Free Gaza posters around.

Youve been under a rock 😄

The Greens are the new left wing Labour Party

You lost me as soon as I read you would consider voting for them. Give your head a wobble OP.

They aren’t just a left wing party. They are full of anti semites for a start. And as for Gaza - this is the UK.

How?

Yes, that photo with someone wearing a Gaza baseball hat says it all

A lot of homes have serious mould and damp issues. If they are LA homes then that can be addressed , if private rentals then landlords need to be held accountable.

Everyone I know supported Green. None are remotely anti-semitic.

Yep, living in one of the most orthodox Jewish wards in Hackney, I now have 2 Tory councillors, a Green mayor and a ex Labour currently Independent MP. Certainly a diverse representation of democracy, which I think reflects the diverse nature of Hackney.
TBH am fully expecting Polanski to run in our constituency at the next GE. Abbott likely won’t stand again (she only did it this time cos Starmer tried to block her), Zack lives locally & looking at the mayoral result, I wouldn’t be surprised if he got elected either.

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Add to that their deluded aspirations for a world (that would include the UK) without borders, climate reparations of up to 2.5% of national income (who’s going to pay for that?), ending of prison sentences that would attract sentences of two years (great, so no deterrent to those crimes such as burglary anymore then). And scrapping the nuclear deterrent. I can’t see the Greens investing anything in the armed forces.

It’s a real shame the current Labour administration were not enforcing laws that already exist to prevent poor habitation in rental properties. Let’s hope the Greens have more luck encouraging the civil servants who work at the council to do their jobs properly.

There SEND white paper is what I’m referring to, which would mean terrifying cuts to provision for disabled children. Most mainstream schools will be made much worse off, because of the loss of EHCP top up funding, whilst having to meet the needs of far more complex children. It’s an absolute pigs ear and the consultation is up on 18th May. So we hope they may see sense. But the unions, parents and Headteacher should all be quite worried.
If you don’t have a special needs or disabled child but have children in school this is going to hugely impact them too.

Absolute rubbish! I’m no Labour fan, but they’ve introduced a lot of extra regulation in this area. Awaab’s law being one example. How exactly the Greens going to make it any better???

Its people voting for an environmental party which has no clear policies on saving or improving the environment at all. It's always people first (more money for me, more for trans, morefor muslims/gazans), animals, trees and nature last

I find the Greens really sinister, both in terms of the groups with whom they coalesce, and also some of their policies. They seem trendy at the moment for whatever reason however they scare the hell out of me.

The greens appeal to ethnic minorities because they stand up for them more than other parties. Google it, more ethnic minorities are voting green. So constituencies in London, where white English are no longer the majority, will have green representation. This may explain the emergence of the green party.

i think all 3 of us live in the same borough

This is a very dangerous road to go down. For everyone.

Anti-Semitic? The leader of the party is Jewish.

Anti-female? It’s reform who want to scrap the equality act, not the Greens.

Which constituencies are those exactly? You don’t actually bring any facts to the debate.