Scottish General Election

[Differentforgirls]

Who are Scottish people voting for next month?

The one thing I'm really glad about regarding the almost certainty that the SNP will be in charge for another five years is the fact that they will be the ones that will have to deal with the 5 Billion pound black hole in the Scottish finances that is forecast by 2030. It's going to be brutal, they caused it with their fiscal incompetence they deserve to get the blame for it.

I very much want you to go!

They'll just be bailed out by Westminster as they have for the other 20+ billion annual black hole they've racked up.

Not sure yet, not SNP or Greens or Reform or Restore, that's for sure
The most amazing thing about these threads (was the same during the referendum) is how little the SNP supporters seem to understand how off-putting their interactions with others are.

Thats a good point. They won't be able to blame anyone else, although they'll give "Westminster " a good go.

Yes, but rather the SNP/Greens have to go cap in hand to Westminster than any of the others.

So if GERS shows the notional position of everything, including the block grant, it includes debt allocated to Scotland, NOT debt run up by Scotland.

So how can it be the fault of any Scottish government if there is a deficit in GERS, when they are only allocated block grant which cannot be overspent, and the remaining debt is run up on the proportion controlled by the UK government and spent on reserved matters?

It can't, but obsfucation about finances allows the argument that Scotland is too poor to be independent to be touted.

It isn't. Northern Ireland is more impoverished than us, and it didn't stop them having the right to self-determination guaranteed in the Good Friday Agreement, should they choose to have a referendum. There is no 'but can they afford it?' clause for them, but it is an argument constantly levelled at us.

Someone on the local FB site always blames Westminster for the chaos that is the West Highland line (including a man who collapsed on the train because of the cold), despite Scotrail being Scottish government owned and run, so fecking tedious.

I merely asked people who they were voting for.

Sure and then get snarky when you don't like their answers.

Ah typical Nat, whether it includes the block grant or not you’re not interested in the truth it suits your position either way. 😂😂

I suggest you read the SNPs own growth commission report. When even their own document trying to persuade people to vote for independence is so bleak about the decades of pain we’re in store for then you know the position is bad.

Be very wary of asking AI about the election. It got all the candidates wrong, said half of them hadn’t been announced and when I pushed back it finally on the 3rd attempt came up with a list !

This is what puts me off politics these days, the extremes and making it personal. The original ethos of the Scottish Parliament was to get more of a consensus and pleasant way of working. Now since Indyref, Brexit, Trump etc it’s so hostile. There is room for difference but ultimately we need to work together. The goading isn’t helpful. It’s made me tune out and not want to vote.

I’ve not said I don’t like anyones answers.

HMRC is collecting it but the money is transferred to the Scottish government.
If this weren't the case the higher income tax that anyone above £30K pays in Scotland would mean money would leave Scotland with no benefit to Scotland. Why would the SNP do this?

You're pretty rude to people who don't bow down at the SNP's altar.

You’re wrong about the impact and 30k salary. The tax bands don’t really impact until higher than that. This is a graphic on the BBC.

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I cannot believe that people are going to vote for this corrupt, secretive, lying fucking lot AGAIN.
WTAF are you all doing to my country.
I know the other options are shit but fucking come on!!!!!!!!!!!!

Ok, at £35K then, but still: income tax raised in Scotland doesn't go to Westminster which is what previous poster claimed.

In what way? The trans thing?

@Weeelokthen but you’ve said it, what is the choice here? It feels like picking the best turd. None of the leaders seem particularly competent. It’s a depressing choice. For my constituency vote I’m going with the person because he seems like a good candidate, is present in the community etc. For the party vote, none of them appeal. I’ve felt like this since 2018.

So you've resorted to insults and accusations of lies as you can't refute the argument?

It's a fact that SG get block grant only, and all other spending is administered by WM government on our behalf. Therefore they are responsible for the deficit.

That is before you look at any other area of policy, like security which is devolved. Scotland have been refused permission to build a 1.5bn wind farm, because it's funded by China, so a 'security risk'.
All small nuclear reactors in England and Wales are due to be built by Chinese companies, but these are NOT a security risk?
My MP Joani Reid has had her husband arrested on suspicion of spying for China. She has had a drunken party at the submarine base that culminated in her exchanging messages with a married submarine captain, who resigned when this was uncovered.
She is voluntarily standing as an independent and is still my MP!
How on earth is any of this a competent and safe way to run our country, and why should we vote for parties who this this is good enough?

Me too. I know who i"m voting for locally and who I am NOT voting nationally. I am politically homeless and it's a sad state of affairs. I cannot get my head around these zealots who will vote SNP, no matter what!!

I already have refuted your argument.

The fact is that the vast majority of Scotland’s spending is on social protection. Which benefits would an independent Scotland have to cut first?

And if we’re going to start looking at corruption then the SNP are way ahead of the other parties here. 😂😂

Just realised I didn’t put reform as an option.

Which was really remiss of me considering the polls see them doing well.

It breaks my heart that this is the case but then it’s been pretty much broken since Thatcher.

But apologies anyway.