Burnham has been blocked!

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Just being reported on BBC news now. The NEC has met and refused to allow Andy Burnham to stand in the by-election. This is looking very bad for Starmer.

I don't think those in the hospitality industry would agree with you right now

There are examples below anyway. Jobs and hospitality.

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All these posts gushing over Burnham. He pays lip service to whomever is in the room, tells them what they want to hear. He’ll be flip flopping all over the place.

Sounds very like Kier Starmer to be fair…

And I hate ABs “King of The North” nickname . The North isn’t just Greater Manchester!

Well endless excuses have been made for the catastrophic job losses. Interesting how those of us actually running businesses don't agree.

How about 16 -18 year-olds?

I hear you. I think some feel immune to those job losses.

Yes, and I’ve been anti Ed Miliband ever since. If not for his arrogance and hubris in thinking he was PM material (he so obviously wasn’t), and aligning himself with the harder Left - when it’s well known that harder Left don’t win U.K. elections - we’d almost certainly have had David M, and not Cameron, and almost certainly not Brexit either.

IMO he’s been an utter disaster for the country.

To be fair you need to blame the Media for that not AB…

Im not blaming AB?

Good question. It’s going to be really interesting to see which way the 16 and 17 year olds vote in the GE. And how high the turnout is.

Agree but then the Unions love Ange and I do not even want to contemplate her as PM. So I dont think the unions have learnt any lessons.

Fair enough but I wasn’t sure from your comment.

Why wait, just google the usual stuff. Unemployment, 30 year GILT yields, farmer suicides, tax burden, welfare spending, business confidence, school closures, GDP per capita, net tax payer exodus, gdp growth, cost of living. What measures are you actually using that show Labour have done anything but run the country into ground?

these little places called Scotland and Wales
Labour on track to do badly in both

Just google the usual stuff and you will see the damage the Tories did while in office and how we are still struggling to cope with that. Anything the Labour government has done has to be seen in context of the hand they’ve been given and I’m no supporter of this government.

I agree completely. Starmer and his cronies on the NEC have shown what spineless and cowardly wankers they are. I resigned from the Labour Party when Keir Starmer was elected as leader because I thought he would be a disastrous Prime Minister and have been proven right. After doing this, they deserve to lose the seat to Reform.

Yes, it’s quite obvious that Labour’s remaining demographic support is basically anyone who doesn’t work and a few public sector workers. I expected them to be bad, but it’s amazing just how fast they’ve managed this.

No, I was just venting about how he’s being portrayed as some sort of saviour. Manchester is a fab and thriving city but the same cant be said of the wider GM area. I visit quite regularly and there is still a lot of household poverty, crime and anti social behaviour.

Now I accept that nowhere can be perfect and equally he isn’t to blame for all it’s problems but there seems to be a belief that he’s a miracle worker and Manchester was saved simply by him becoming Mayor so he’ll do the same for the country.

I know Greater Manchester, I’m from there.

lets start with unemployment, why is the rate up 30% from last year? How did the Tories manage that ? How long is Labour in power before you’ll hold them responsible?

And my family live there. In Ange’s former constituency.

Ok instead of criticising who do you believe would make a better government right now given the options we have?

And your point?

I was just replying to your point