If Labour raises taxes what will you think?

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Typing on my phone so not sure I can do a poll? But, if the government raises income tax or NI at the budget, will you think:

A - let’s get real, they had no other choice
B - those duplicitous / inept bastards

They keep shouting and cheering in parliament I can barely hear Reeves deliver the budget

The unfunded NI cuts for a start. That was £10 billion. Obviously Reeves was a fool not to immediately reverse those.

They are pushing down the wealth creators. Making the people who make daft choices re having more childen rewarded for those choices. Doesnt matter if they cannot afford it. Someone else will pay.

YOU CNA NEVER TAX YOUR WAY TO GROWTH - EVER!

Bit of a reach. Labour laid out what they planned to do and declared it wouldn’t cost the tax payer. Sunak had the common sense to point out that it would indeed cost the tax payer.

It wasn’t a trap. It was Labour choices to give public sector pay rises without links to increased productivity and to increase rather than constrain benefits. Then they made the UK a hostile environment to highly mobile, high taxpayers with their spiteful VAT on schools and nondom rules.

I don’t doubt that the Conservatives would have made different choices.

@blossomtoes

You have forgotten that Labour’s 2024 manifestos stated that tax would not be increased. They increased taxes in 2024 and stated it was a one off to wipe the slate clean.

One year later, taxes have risen again.

Unemployment has hit a 10 year high of 5% after a decade of declining unemployment post Brexit under the conservatives.

I’ve forgotten nothing.

A - but I don’t earn enough to pay tax. 🤷🏻‍♀️

If your roof needs a few tiles replacing but in order to save money you delay, what happens?
Water comes in and those few tiles become new ceiling and rafters, you then need the credit card to pay for it.

Austerity meant, initially we saved money, given away in tax cuts, then when the roads really did need fixing, hospitals repaired, we had no money.

Hunt cut NI by 10bn per year, fine but how then do we pay for on going mtce? we have to borrow it.

Credit card? Like the Labour PFI when they were last in government that are still costing the NHS millions now?

Everything is on the credit card at the moment and the repayments are rapidly becoming unaffordable.

PFI was a mortgage not a credit card.

Do you mean the PFI started by the Tories and continued by the Tories in their first term in the coalition?

The hospitals built so when we had a Pandemic, we had somewhere to to treat people?

How would you have paid for those hospitals and schools?

Borrowing went from 65% to 87% of GDP without PFI......

I remember Blair and Brown starting PFI.

Except they didn’t. Major did.

The PFI of which 86% were signed off by Labour, yes.

@blossomtoes

Labour have increased taxes for everyone by freezing tax thresholds for a further three years.

“Fully funded, fully costed”

‘We’ve wiped the slate clean, no more tax rises.’

Another £26 to £30bn in taxes. They’ll feel it in polls and votes if not on this thread.

I'd Google that....

Kindly stop tagging me.

Did Austerity stop actual investment or just squeeze operating costs? The public sector was demonstrably more productive during austerity. Since the purse strings have loosened, they have become less productive. The money going in is not coming out as services. It’s getting lost in the system.

How would you have paid for those new buildings? or wouldn't you have bothered?

BTW i think PFI contracts were badly written up, much like the billions wasted on migrant Hotels, which we are paying far on right now.

Plus, i'm am always being told "Stop going on about the past!" but it seems thats only when it is about stuff the Tories messed up.

The hospitals built so when we had a Pandemic, we had somewhere to to treat people?
How would you have paid for those hospitals and schools?

Well given the NHS is paying £80billion in exchange for £13 billion of investment, it seems they would have been able to build four times as many hospitals if they were paid for directly.

Look at roads, NHS estate, court buildings?

Yes mtce was cut.

That isn’t true. Productivity in the NHS plummeted.

The two child benefit cap has been abolished. This will encourage people having more children to claim more benefits and turn away from working.

Minimum wage has increased. So, employers will be looking for ways to reduce the number of people they currently employ.