Corbyn’s new party

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Jeremy Corbyn and Zarah Sultana have confirmed the launch of a new hard-Left party to fight Sir Keir Starmer’s Labour.

The former Labour leader and his fellow now-independent MP said it was “time for a new kind of political party” in a statement on Thursday.

The pair have invited voters to sign up to the Left-wing faction via the website yourparty.uk, although The Telegraph understands the new project will not be called Your Party and that its name is to be confirmed.

Will this split the Labour vote? What do we all think?

@statsfunoh yeah, current Tories are a shambles. They have been a long time. It's depressing. I wouldn't vote Reform because Farage etc couldnt run a piss up and there are some shitty characters; I worked around Westminster a long time and know them well. Although nowhere near as nasty as Corbyn's hangers-on.

I would love a centre right, sensible party. Socially liberal, lower tax, honest and willing to tackle the immigration we don't want while not cutting off our nose by limiting high net-worth and also in demand skilled immigration.

I have no idea what 'beyond the pale' means in this context. Can you give some examples from Corbyn's last manifesto or other pledges please?

No, I can’t be bothered. Look up Corbyn and Sultana yourself. Be sure to include everything Corbyn’s done in politics at all levels, not just as Labour leader.

I've followed him for a while and am not aware of any 'hard left' policies so was interested to hear your opinion.

Hard left = aggressive taxation and anti-semitism

How simplistic, I assumed there would be more nuance. Apparently 400,000 have signed up
https://jeremycorbyn.org.uk/

Never underestimate the strength of idiots and antisemites in this country

I bet my house it won’t get off the ground and will be a distant memory by the next GE - at which Corbyn will be 80.

@Blossomtoesso what.It doesn’t stop someone being an mp, because of their age.

You've made a good point. I remember during the 2019 election which Corbyn lost, some people from a safe Labour seat said that they wouldn't vote Labour, for the first time ever. When asked why, one of them said "because he cares more about Palestine than he does about people at home".

No, sadly.

So did I!

Anti Zionism. It’s a completely different thing.

Me too!

Can you hear me, Clemfandango?

Or being against genocide, bombing hospitals and starving children.

Its been proven the antisemitism against Corbyn was a tactic to get him out and false. Unless you agree with what’s happening?

@NormasArsedoes "Zionist" equate to believing in the existence of Israel to you?

I can hear you! 😂

Who knows? I’m a centre-left voter who welcomed Starmer and has been disappointed. I thought Corbyn was useless. His failure to strongly oppose Brexit was a disaster. He never truly appreciated the antisemitism issue and always believed that since he was a good leftist he couldn’t be one or support any.

Starmer is in a fiscal straitjacket that he inherited from the Tories but he has no real ideas for getting out of it. Unfortunately Corbyn is going to promise lavish spending with no real ideas of how to pay for it in a country where wages have been stagnant since 2008.

Hasn't Farage been doing the same? His manifesto is said to cost 90bn and that rises exponentially when you consider his new prison plans, benefit plans and renationalisation.

Because we caused it...

Just to be clear on this: Corbyn is not "splitting the left".

Starmer did that by ejecting Corbyn from the Labour party, withdrawing the whip from other left Labour MPs, and launching a ruthless witchhunt against a huge portion of his own membership, getting them thrown out of the party on all sorts of contrived pretences.

There seems to be an odd idea floating around that when faced with that blatantly authoritarian and narrow-minded denial of the left's right to democratic representation, the left are duty bound to go crawl under a rock and say "yes sir, if you say so".

I've signed up to the new party. Personally I would have been happier if Starmer did what he said he was going to do when running for the Labour leadership, united the party around the values of the 2019 manifesto, engaged in constructive debate across factions and continued the party's long and venerable tradition as a left-to-centre-left "broad church".

But sadly it was not to be, and that's not Corbyn's fault. He actually attempted to do more than any recent leader to democratise the party and increase the ability of members across the political spectrum to work constructively with each other.

That's an easy question. Because Britain was instrumental in creating the very political circumstances that have led to the Israel-Palestine conflict, and perpetuate the fallout of that conflict by selling arms to Israel.

The protesters are not just saying it's a bad thing. They're saying what they want the British government to DO, ie stop selling arming Israel.

Apart from which I think you'll find JC has as strong a record as any MP of supporting human rights struggles all over the world.

And yet in 2019 he outlined in forensic detail exactly how he would pay for it.

Me three!