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Pensions Stolen, Hotels Paid: How the State Betrays British Women

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JessieZoo · 24/07/2025 09:37

So let’s get this straight.
Labour says it would be “unfair” — yes, unfair — to pay British women the pensions they’re rightfully owed. A flat-rate compensation scheme, they argue, would cost up to £10.5 billion. That, apparently, is just too much for the taxpayer to handle. Too heavy a burden. Too expensive. Too inconvenient.
But wait — in the very same breath, they have no issue at all signing off on billions of pounds to house illegal migrants in hotels. Not just hostels or temporary shelters — but full-service hotels, many costing hundreds of pounds per night. Paid for by you. The British taxpayer.

Women who worked all their lives, paid into the system, raised children, supported families — many of them now pensionless, struggling to heat their homes or feed themselves — are told: “Sorry, there’s no money left.” Yet people who entered this country illegally, without contributing a single penny to the public purse, are handed food, shelter, healthcare, and legal aid on a silver platter.
Where is the outrage? Where is the logic? Where is the basic common sense?
Let’s call it what it is: an insult. A slap in the face to every British woman who’s been denied justice. A betrayal of the very people who built this country.

The state is happy to tell working-class women — many of whom were misled, underinformed, or outright ignored when their pension age was quietly raised — that they must simply “get on with it.” But when it comes to those who cross our borders illegally? The red carpet rolls out. No delays. No debates. No “affordability” test.

The message is loud and clear: law-abiding British citizens come last.
Let that sink in.

Because this is no longer just about money. It’s about priorities. It’s about morality. It’s about who this country serves — and who it’s abandoned.
If the government — and Labour in particular — truly cared about fairness, justice, or “proportionality,” then British women would not be fighting tooth and nail for scraps while illegal migrants are put up in comfort using the very taxes those same women paid throughout their lives.

This isn’t a funding issue. It’s a political choice.
It’s not that the country is broke — it’s that those in charge have broken their promise to the people who deserve it most.
And it’s time we said enough is enough.

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Shnuzzbucket · 24/07/2025 09:41

We cannot afford to pay pensions so early - when you look at the history of pensions, people were only expected to live a couple of years after retirement, now its... 20, 30 years

My dm is 83, so she would have been paid for 33 years on a pension.

Your second point, where would you put the 'illegal migrants' while processing them to see if they are in fact illegal? Prison?

Shnuzzbucket · 24/07/2025 09:42

Thirdly, can you work out what you want to post before posting it and making many changes??

Shnuzzbucket · 24/07/2025 09:45

The state is happy to tell working-class women — many of whom were misled, underinformed, or outright ignored when their pension age was quietly raised — that they must simply “get on with it.” But when it comes to those who cross our borders illegally? The red carpet rolls out. No delays. No debates. No “affordability” test.

So what do you think the 'illegal immigrants' are getting included with their red carpet?

The message is loud and clear: law-abiding British citizens come last.
Let that sink in.
Nope - you're talking xenophobic bollocks

And you havent even mentioned 'veterans' yet, you know all the brave people who fought for us, living on the streets....

Quirkswork · 24/07/2025 09:47

Women are unfortunately not the demographic where a human rights lawyer can shine. Immigrants are. The government would far rather look good and worthy to the world than help the population of the UK. (The ones that were born here anyway. As they don't matter as much as immigrants. It would current unfortunately appear).

Quirkswork · 24/07/2025 09:50

Shnuzzbucket · 24/07/2025 09:41

We cannot afford to pay pensions so early - when you look at the history of pensions, people were only expected to live a couple of years after retirement, now its... 20, 30 years

My dm is 83, so she would have been paid for 33 years on a pension.

Your second point, where would you put the 'illegal migrants' while processing them to see if they are in fact illegal? Prison?

Not hotels in communities. The government estate needs to include purpose built facilities. Clearly. Otherwise things are going to go very wrong, as we can see is starting now.

HobnobsChoice · 24/07/2025 10:03

Building specific facilities would be so much cheaper than using hotels right? You would only have to
Buy the land
Go through the planning process
Go through the tender process for construction and supplies
Build the thing
Recruit and train staff
Open it up.

And where are your proposing we house all the people waiting for their claims to be processed in the 3 to 5 years while the processing centres are built?

What needs to happen is claims for asylum can be made from abroad. The insanity that asylum claims can only be made within the UK is a huge part of the problem.

Quirkswork · 24/07/2025 10:22

HobnobsChoice · 24/07/2025 10:03

Building specific facilities would be so much cheaper than using hotels right? You would only have to
Buy the land
Go through the planning process
Go through the tender process for construction and supplies
Build the thing
Recruit and train staff
Open it up.

And where are your proposing we house all the people waiting for their claims to be processed in the 3 to 5 years while the processing centres are built?

What needs to happen is claims for asylum can be made from abroad. The insanity that asylum claims can only be made within the UK is a huge part of the problem.

Of course ultimately it would be cheaper than putting them up in 4* hotels. And they wouldn't be in the community.

The Nightingale hospitals were put up very quickly. It can be done if there is political will.

HobnobsChoice · 24/07/2025 10:27

The nightingale hospitals used places like the Excel Centre in London and we're never properly staffed. Hardly the same.

NeelyOHara · 24/07/2025 10:30

HobnobsChoice · 24/07/2025 10:27

The nightingale hospitals used places like the Excel Centre in London and we're never properly staffed. Hardly the same.

Not that far off as an example of what can be done quickly, when considered necessary.

Quirkswork · 24/07/2025 10:32

HobnobsChoice · 24/07/2025 10:27

The nightingale hospitals used places like the Excel Centre in London and we're never properly staffed. Hardly the same.

I'm sure it could be achieved.

What I think will happen instead though is that on the basis judges are clearly being persuaded by human rights lawyers to try and keep every immigrant coming into the UK here so theres no much point trying to deport anyone, all the "asylum seekers" coming in will be more quickly processed by the simple method of saying "yes" to the majority of them. And then the numbers can look like they are being reduced. And our population will steadily rise further as there doesn't seem to be a reduction in people coming in.

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 24/07/2025 10:41

Ooh, great, a new dimension to the xenophobia.

I guess you've got to give them credit for their persistence and their creativity. If only they could channel all of that energy into something constructive instead of the hate and self-righteous anger!

Quirkswork · 24/07/2025 11:01

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 24/07/2025 10:41

Ooh, great, a new dimension to the xenophobia.

I guess you've got to give them credit for their persistence and their creativity. If only they could channel all of that energy into something constructive instead of the hate and self-righteous anger!

Yes that's helpful. I think if things start getting tricky that's exactly what you should tell any upset people like those in Epping. It goes down well with people concerned about the safety of their families.

LoveSandbanks · 24/07/2025 11:04

These people are not illegal immigrants, they are refugees. The hotels they are staying at may generally cost several hundred pounds a night but the government has negotiated special rates and pay considerably less, the refugees are NOT getting the red carpet treatment, they are getting a very different experience to the one received by normal paying guests. If all meals are provided, they have around £12 a week “pocket money”. This has to cover any required travel, phone bills, toiletries, clothes etc. Many of these refugees are from Afghanistan and actively helped our troops during the war. We have a moral obligation to give the refuge after the put their lives on the line.

You are conflating two issues. There IS enough money for both if only we would tax the 1%

Im female, 57 and furious that the TORIES extended my working life by 7 years!

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 24/07/2025 11:38

Quirkswork · 24/07/2025 11:01

Yes that's helpful. I think if things start getting tricky that's exactly what you should tell any upset people like those in Epping. It goes down well with people concerned about the safety of their families.

These people in Epping?

https://www.thetimes.com/article/b5d1612a-aa54-4979-a785-6ea4d3ccdf77?shareToken=7679f2278f43b7ece87441cca501f92c

Neo-Nazis leading Epping hotel protests call for nationwide action

False claims about migrant relocations have fuelled demonstrations in Epping and Canary Wharf, encouraged by the far-right group Homeland

https://www.thetimes.com/article/b5d1612a-aa54-4979-a785-6ea4d3ccdf77?shareToken=7679f2278f43b7ece87441cca501f92c

pointythings · 24/07/2025 11:58

MrsBennetsPoorNerves · 24/07/2025 10:41

Ooh, great, a new dimension to the xenophobia.

I guess you've got to give them credit for their persistence and their creativity. If only they could channel all of that energy into something constructive instead of the hate and self-righteous anger!

Deliberately conflating completely unrelated issues is a well established tactic. It's the natural evolution of 'Look! A squirrel!'.

MiloMinderbinder925 · 24/07/2025 12:06

This is one of the angles the far right are using. They're focusing specifically on women to promote their hateful and divisive agenda. Weaponising VAWAG and now talking about women being sidelined for 'illegals'.

Get a job.

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 12:28

A hotel without the service is just a building with rooms

cestlavielife · 24/07/2025 12:36

Have you stayed at a Britania hotel op?
It might have chandelier but they pretty rubbish. Living there maybe with your family being served beige food and £12 a week for your toiletries is not luxury
Hotel chain named the UK’s worst for 11th year running | The Independent https://share.google/H3ZR9rUxoZvvU6umz

Spending more on overseas aid so people don't decide to leave in desperation... what are your views?

The pensions issue is a different one.

This hotel chain named the UK’s worst for 11th year running

Brand with more than 60 hotels nationwide scores ‘abysmal’ overall customer satisfaction rating

https://www.independent.co.uk/travel/news-and-advice/worst-hotel-chain-uk-britannia-b2438312.html

TopPocketFind · 24/07/2025 12:39

There is usually a reason why they ceased operating as a hotel.

Foolsgold74 · 24/07/2025 12:42

Shnuzzbucket · 24/07/2025 09:41

We cannot afford to pay pensions so early - when you look at the history of pensions, people were only expected to live a couple of years after retirement, now its... 20, 30 years

My dm is 83, so she would have been paid for 33 years on a pension.

Your second point, where would you put the 'illegal migrants' while processing them to see if they are in fact illegal? Prison?

Bet you wouldn't want them next door to you though.

CheshireCat1 · 24/07/2025 12:49

You’ve fallen hook line and sinker for the age old trap of getting you to look in the opposite direction of where you should be looking. Ask yourself why the rich are getting richer and the poor are getting poorer. When the refugee claims have finally been processed and they’re able to work and pay tax, which will help to pay for your pension.
Do some research and find out who is pushing this agenda of blaming refugees and hopefully you’ll start to look in the right direction.

Shnuzzbucket · 24/07/2025 13:00

Foolsgold74 · 24/07/2025 12:42

Bet you wouldn't want them next door to you though.

To be honest, I dont really care. People have to live somewhere

OchreSnail · 24/07/2025 13:18

Quirkswork · 24/07/2025 09:50

Not hotels in communities. The government estate needs to include purpose built facilities. Clearly. Otherwise things are going to go very wrong, as we can see is starting now.

What the government possibly needs to do is put in place legal means to enter Britain to claim asylum. This currently doesn't exist.

A second point is no one is an illegal immigrant until they're been assessed as such, at which point they will have to leave the country. Historic and current delays in making these determinations has led to this problem.

The nonsense about 'red carpet treatment' is just inflammatory racism. Do better.

Edit - should've said this to the OP

RosaMundi27 · 24/07/2025 13:52

LoveSandbanks · 24/07/2025 11:04

These people are not illegal immigrants, they are refugees. The hotels they are staying at may generally cost several hundred pounds a night but the government has negotiated special rates and pay considerably less, the refugees are NOT getting the red carpet treatment, they are getting a very different experience to the one received by normal paying guests. If all meals are provided, they have around £12 a week “pocket money”. This has to cover any required travel, phone bills, toiletries, clothes etc. Many of these refugees are from Afghanistan and actively helped our troops during the war. We have a moral obligation to give the refuge after the put their lives on the line.

You are conflating two issues. There IS enough money for both if only we would tax the 1%

Im female, 57 and furious that the TORIES extended my working life by 7 years!

Refugees from France??? How does that work.