Is the Jeffrey Epstein scandal news in the U.K.?

[MsAmerica]

Or, since it's really all about Trump in the U.S., I'm wondering if maybe it's more local.

I'm not so very insane over it myself, but a lot of other people are.

Yes it is news in the Uk,

What exactly is the news?

Has there been an update? I am following Sandie Peggie ET so am a bit behind with other news?

Do you honestly think anything will come of it @MsAmerica ?
Teflon Trump seems to be able to get away with anything, nothing sticks to him so far.

No, its news in the UK. Has been on and off for years - Prince Andrew connection.

Yes. Are the Euros news n the US?

Yes, but not at the level in the US. Gaza is important here.

Yes, the Epstein scandal has been big news in the UK for many years, because of the involvement of Prince Andrew and also because Ghislaine Maxwell is British, and is the daughter of a very high profile businessman & fraudster who died in suspicious circumstances.

Many people in the UK, including me, believe that Andrew had sex with at least one underage girl procured by Epstein & Maxwell, that Epstein was murdered, that Maxwell refused to co-operate with the authorities because she was afraid the same would happen to her and that Trump was up to his neck in it.

It's been headline news here yes. I don't really understand why people suddenly care though. Trump has done all sorts of awful, illegal and abusive things that have been widely publicised. Why has his base started caring about this?

Why Gaza more so than other conflicts?

Yes, it's news. It's abundantly obvious Trump is deeply involved but I doubt anything will come of it, he has the money and position to get away with anything.

That’s what I’m wondering too

Yes, of course it is.

Yes, quite a lot. It seems very obvious that Trump would be ‘friends’ with any billionaire white guy in New York, especially one surrounded by women happy to hook up with rich married men. He clearly noticed that Epstein liked girls rather than women, and no doubt shared the attitude of many men that if you are at a party he is at, whether you are past the age of consent is not his concern, the only issue is whether you have tits and a cunt. I personally doubt that Trump is actually what I would consider a paedophile, and I note that unlike Prince Andrew, he wasn’t friends with Epstein post his conviction for sex offences, though I gather they fell out over a financial deal rather than anything as unimportant as whether some fucking bitch gold digging cunt had accused one of them of some crime (I paraphrase the apparent thinking of the President of the United States).

But having stoked every racist, insane and and damaging conspiracy theory in the book to become President, if one of them actually damaged him, I’d be delighted. Not enough to start thinking Epstein represents something unusual and new, or that there needs to be a conspiracy for rich men to treat other people as disposable trash.

The news are reporting it, indeed.
Do you think they will unseal the whole set of documents?
It seems to be getting really heated up! Impeaching Trump is one of the outcomes I have heard.

Indeed, he is resilient, almost bulletproof.
But Maga is getting incandescent...

Trump traded on the deep state pedophile conspiracy theory to get votes and epstein is very much part of that for his maga nutters.

It is biting him on the arse because he now wants to change course due to his own involvement but his base still believe his initial lies.

He has previously boasted that he could shoot someone on 5th avenue and his base would still support him but it is just possible that child abuse could be a step to far given the far right use this horror to motivate the crowd.

The victims of epstein et al must be terrified that they will become political pawns once again and at risk of violence from pro trump supporters.

America is a lunatic asylum these days.
Nobody is safe except rich white straight men and even they can be at risk from richer straight white men.

Sadly trump will probably be fine because he is the worst of them all.

It is in the news but I’m struggling to get a sense of how much of an impact this might have on Trump? Would be interested to hear what the vibe in America is in the media/on the street? Do people think it will be the end of Trump? Do people think the files will be fully released?

because the cynical part of me thinks it will be media headlines for a bit and die a death and nothing will happen/change.

It's all over social media in the UK. Threads is particularly on it!

It's also news because Trump is coming here tomorrow for a wee jolly on his golf courses, the policing alone is costing us £3 million and 5,000 police from all over the UK will be looking after him on his private holiday. He is not paying a penny/cent towards all of this.

I am CONSTANTLY wondering that.

To me, this is almost trivial, because it's about horrible harm done to a small group of people by someone else. So, to me, Trump's other actions - the insurrection to overturn the 2020 election, the defunding universities, the extortion of television networks, the undercutting of healthcare, the squelching of government departments that protect the public - cause horrible harm to millions and are far more consequential and he himself is the instigator. But people like lurid sex stories.

You're assuming that Trump wasn't involved in abusing those girls. I strongly suspect that he was.

We know that:

• Even before Trump was a political candidate, the FBI questioned Epstein on whether he "socialized" with Donald Trump in the presence of underage girls (Epstien declined to answer, as he did to many questions).

• One woman has previously sued Trump and Epstien for a series of sexual crimes against her while she was 13 (including an instance of forcible rape by Trump). Her claim was supported by an witness, who was a former employee of Epstien. Unfortunately (but understandably), she withdrew her case out of fear.

I still find her account extremely credible.

We also know that Trump and Epstien were best friends, and Trump once hosted a party where the only guests were Epstein and a load of women.

Then there are Trump's creepy letters and comments.

Honestly, I would be amazed if Trump is not a prolific pedophile.

Oh, and that he and the Republicans closed congress early to avoid a vote on the Epstien files, and that once Maxwell was summoned for testimony, Trump started dangling a pardon....its not incriminating but highly suspect.

If anyone hasn't read and is interested, below is a link to the first set of filings from the rape case filed against Trump. The claim was originally dismissed on procedural grounds then re-filed, before the Plaintiff dropped it, but the original filing is the more detailed of the two. The witness statements (one of which is very brief) are included.

Obvious TW if needed - contains descriptions of CSA.

https://cdn.factcheck.org/UploadedFiles/Johnson_TrumpEpstein_Lawsuit.pdf

Because Trump's side previously promised to release the 'client list'. They weaponised it. The implication being that anybody on said list was a nonce.

That's not true, of course. It's not a list of pedophiles; it's a list of people that one of the world's leading elite business men did business with, associated with, invited to his gatherings to impress his friends etc.

Trump's side, for some bizarre reason, thought he was safe, or that he could talk his way out of it, like he did with his other sex scandals. He's now been informed that his name does appear on the 'list'. His supporters, many of whom buy into the conspiracy theories about celebrities, politicians etc being involved in secret abuse rings, are frustrated that he's not released the 'list' and validated all the nonsense they've been spouting.

Now that they're told he's on the list, they're in uproar because they think he has something to hide.