What are hard left policies?

[AntoniasOuting]

I have googled away, and can’t find a definitive answer. I don’t mean general left-wing ideas, but extreme left. I suppose the Greens include some of them, but I’d be interested to know what an actual manifesto included.

Can you explain how? For example, China is one of the most aggressively capitalist countries in the world, has a huge disparity between rich and poor, has no human rights and an authoritarian government. How is that Communist?

It isn't me claiming it, it's the whole of the Internet.
Can you name me which countries you think are communist?

None. The "internet" is wrong.

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‘Hard Left’ refers to Communists who believe in the overthrow of Parliamentary democracy, the capitalist free market economy and the monarchy, by the working class, by force in a violent revolution if necessary. They believe these things should be replaced by a single-party state which should own and control and run the entire economy and the whole of society. Businesses, private enterprises, farms, factories etc etc should all be nationalised and run by the star for the benefit of the whole of society, not to create profits which reward shareholders & enrich capitalists.

When I think of hard left politics I think about the DDR as was. I'm old enough to remember how that ended and what came out about how things had been run.
It's not for me 🙂

There are different ideas on what Communism is. Marxism involves the ever increasing crisis of capitalism and misery amongst the proletariat. Armed with revolutionary class consciousness, the proletariat seizes the means of production along with the institutions of state power and establishes a socialist state.

Marx calls this the dictatorship of the proletariat, who rule in their own class interest. Eventually the need for a state disappears and is replaced by a classless communist society. It's wrong to say that Communism doesn't involve democracy, ideally everything is decided democratically.

Isn't it famously so, that the further into communism you get then you end up back into capitalism? So maybe China and Russia are extremist Communist countries, much as how our country now has Labour with policies that are relatively far right (cutting PIP) and the actual far right are paying Rwanda to build houses for our immigrants...all very weird. We don't really have a left of democracy party, as much as China doesn't have a left of Communist party.

Communism is the antithesis of capitalism and they sit at either end of the political spectrum. China is a one party state, the government disappear political opponents and Russia can be described as a reactionary totalitarianism; it's nowhere near left.

There is a misunderstanding of what Communism is. A communist society is run by the people for the people. Marx was vague about what a Communist society actually looks like as he said that it was for the people to decide. It's meant to be classless, there's no hierarchy and people spend the majority of their time on enriching pastimes. There has never been a communist society plus it's meant to be worldwide.

I think a lot of the larger countries are somewhere around the Lunatic Fringe on the politcal compass at the moment. It's circular, the further into each you get and becomes more fanatical.

Communism is considered politically extreme as it involves revolution and revolutionary ideas. So called Communist countries have never moved on from 'the dictatorship of the proletariat' which is meant to be a transitional phase from capitalism to communism where the means of production moves from private to collective ownership.

Unfortunately megalomaniac and psychopathic leaders have seized control by various means, murdered millions and conveniently forgotten about the transition to communism. Like all authoritarian states, they're corrupt, lack human rights and thrive on nepotism.

Yes 100% the further right or left you go, eventually they meet back up.

I would take unrealistic Corbyn over the fascist Farage any day.

Collectivist living and farming like they had on the Israeli Kibbutzim in the early years. Apparently, they were very hard left socialist back then.

I think China today is only Communist in name. They are obviously a capitalist but authoritarian society now.

I earnt more than that as a teacher. I was a union member

It offers an extremely fascinating look into a communist, socialist state where free speech was clamped down on by the Stasi.

People who defied the system - eg tried to escape -could have their children seized and adopted. Others trying to escape were shot on sight. Torture was routine.
It was a truly appalling system which extraordinarily enough still has apologists.

So is Fascism

Isis, Hitler, Mussolini.

Yet here we are. Looking it in the face again.