Lifetime Social Housing Tenancies

[RowsOfFlowers]

Am I wrong or being unreasonable to think that this new policy that Labour are bringing in is very unfair?

I come from a poor-ish background (as in no one in my wider family has any money). However, my mum and Dad did fairly okay and managed to move up the property ladder (through sheer hard work and sacrifice). My dad died a few years ago and so now it’s just my mom. We never received any benefits - and now my DH and I live in a house and pay a high interest rate (thanks Truss) and I don’t know if we will ever pay off our house (if I am to have children and go part time), so we will need to downsize. We don’t qualify for any benefits either but we are in the squashed middle, so we really feel it when anything rises in cost and don’t get any help.

I feel really cross that someone can benefit from social housing for a lifetime, no matter how much they go on to earn, and then if they pass away, they can pass it down as an asset.

I have a friend who’s parents came to this country, got given social housing, their children paid it off (40% discount) and now they all get to keep a £650k house in London. It doesn’t seem fair to me at all. I feel really disillusioned living in the UK.

Quite frankly @batt3nb3rg you are over-stepping boundaries. I am not sharing any more of my PERSONAL circumstances with you on a public forum - it’s quite frankly none of your business. You’re just being judgemental, most likely, because your arguments are not robust enough. This thread is not an opportunity for you to criticise my life.

I also couldn’t care less about your circumstances frankly, especially if you’re going to use it as more ammunition against me. I’m not wasting any more energy responding to you. You’ve already shown your true colours.

Labour are not bringing this in. Council houses have always been lifetime tenancies . That was the whole point to give people security without the fear from being evicted

@LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway I think there’s something you need to address about your reading comprehension. This thread is about lifetime tenancies for social housing tenants and the unfairness of these tenancies for some of the tenants.

But you very much DO care about the living standards of others! You started a thread on the subject in fact, based on your own bias. I doubt you give a fig about social housing and the tenancies. You just wanted to pick on people.

No, I did not! I have family in social housing so I very much do not. Please leave me alone, I feel you are picking on me.

👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻 Yeh same old thing month in, month out. Pure jealousy from those who fancy picking on others because they can’t see a painless way out of their debt.

Im not picking on you but I doubt you’d like to see your family evicted because they were doing ok for themselves.

That was so predictable and lazy of you to say that.

No, I don't get why a 20 something just stating out in life should inherit a lifetime tenancy for a 3 bed council house from their grandparent. Especially when there are young families in temporary accommodation and have greter need for this home.

A secure future for young people should not depend on a lifetime social housing tenancy. A secure future for a young person is decent job prospects with good pay progression in order to fund their housing needs. Sometimes that means moving away from the area they grew up in, a social housing tenancy could actually be a hindrance.

You seem to be a very fragile person. You invited comment on your personal circumstances by bringing them into a thread you ostensibly started to discuss one topic, where it became very clear that your motivation was resentment over your own circumstances. In respect to your other reply to me, of course I would advocate for someone in temporary accommodation to refrain from having a baby - but it isn’t someone in temporary accommodation here using their personal circumstances to criticise private tenants or homeowners.

I’m sure you would have reacted very well if someone had told you when you brought up your specific situation of not being able to afford to have a baby that they couldn’t care less about your circumstances, as they are materially irrelevant to the conversation you started. But that would have been very rude, and no one did it. Maybe sit down and have a think about why even the merest suggestion that you could do something to change your own circumstances instead of woe-is-me-ing is so offensive to you, when the entire premise of the thread you started was speculating as to the personal circumstances of others.

The funny thing is, I don’t even disagree with your original point - lifetime tenancies don’t make any sense and need overhauling, but not because people earning too much should be evicted, but because of factors like under-occupancy and antisocial behaviour, where it can be difficult or impossible to take action due to the security of tenancies.

I’m neither predictable nor lazy, I just happen to agree with that post and disagree with you

To be fair though you have said some things that are not very nice . People pissing out kids being one of them.

Yes, I agree @mylovedoesitgood

Honestly both @batt3nb3rg & @MyKingdomForACat You are both personally attacking me now, and I’d like you to stop. That doesn’t make me a fragile person, and even if I was, why won’t you stop and look at your own behaviour rather than berate a young woman online? Just get a life. I started a thread to discuss something, but you’re now picking on me for having my own opinion and that’s out of order.

@RowsOfFlowers You started a thread about a subject that’s nothing to do with you just to poke a certain situation with a stick and got your fingers burned in the process.

It has everything to do with me, now do leave me alone.

What on earth are you on about? How can lifetime tenancies in social housing NOT be to do with anyone who pays tax?

I’m not picking on you for having an opinion, I’m disagreeing with you on the internet. I am a twenty three year old young woman and even I have learned by this point in my life how to handle anonymous disagreements, that have no bearing on my real life or anyone else’s. I would say you have actually been quite rude and aggressive to several people (I’m not counting myself because I know you believe yourself to be a victim of heinous bullying by me, I mean several posters who have just expressed an opinion contrary to your own) on this thread, but as far as I can tell, you’re the only person who is reporting others to Mumsnet.

You must be one of those who think social housing is “free”.

If people are made to leave their SH if they start earning x amount, then where is the incentive for those people to take on a better paid job? Nobody is going to take a job that may ultimately mean they lose their home....anyone who says they will is. IMO, a liar. Why should those in SH be made to feel like they are not worthy of anything more that a MW job? Me and DP live in SH and have a combined income of just under £50k. We are too old for a mortgage (not that we could afford one anyway), and I refuse to spend my retirement years with the stress of private renting where I am at the whim of the landlord when it comes to tenancy renewal.

MN is a weird place when it comes to SH tenants. On the one hand (according to MN), everyone working more than MW or have no DC living at home should move out and on the other, nobody wants to live near a HA/Council estate because it's full of dodgy people who are "to lazy to get a job" and have feral offspring. Either you (generic "you"), want such estates to be made up of decent folk both in work or not, or you're ok with entire estates being full of people unable/unwilling to work.

Direct you're anger towards those that have made any housing other than SH more expensive because, shock, horror, it's not those living in HA/Council properties that have caused private rents and mortgages to increase to the level they are now.

Why do you think people in social housing don’t work hard? Many, many tenants are working. Social housing isn’t just for the unemployed.

I don't what fairyland council you are under, but here - lifetime doesn't exist anymore.

5 years flexible rolling over.

Keep stirring.

Nothing wrong with MY reading comprehension dear. I think you are the one with THAT issue. My post responded exactly to what the OP is going on about!

Yes @RowsOfFlowers What a rude and arrogant assumption. That people who do not have social housing work much harder than those who do.

All the LOLz! 😂

You are so pissing ignorant its untrue.

Both me and dp worked. Full time. I am also disabled to boot. But I had 2 dc. I went back to work early both times as I earned more.

You can put your daily mail down at any time you know.

Oh and the personal circumstances of people in HA and council houses are sod all to do with you

Oh and the personal circumstances of people in HA and council houses are sod all to do with you

Yes, they are.