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RowsOfFlowers · 26/06/2025 07:46

Am I wrong or being unreasonable to think that this new policy that Labour are bringing in is very unfair?

I come from a poor-ish background (as in no one in my wider family has any money). However, my mum and Dad did fairly okay and managed to move up the property ladder (through sheer hard work and sacrifice). My dad died a few years ago and so now it’s just my mom. We never received any benefits - and now my DH and I live in a house and pay a high interest rate (thanks Truss) and I don’t know if we will ever pay off our house (if I am to have children and go part time), so we will need to downsize. We don’t qualify for any benefits either but we are in the squashed middle, so we really feel it when anything rises in cost and don’t get any help.

I feel really cross that someone can benefit from social housing for a lifetime, no matter how much they go on to earn, and then if they pass away, they can pass it down as an asset.

I have a friend who’s parents came to this country, got given social housing, their children paid it off (40% discount) and now they all get to keep a £650k house in London. It doesn’t seem fair to me at all. I feel really disillusioned living in the UK.

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Bumpitybumper · 07/07/2025 09:32

verycloakanddaggers · 07/07/2025 08:33

I don't think you can really believe you pay into a system that doesn't benefit you at all - if you really believed that you'd stop working, stop paying your mortgage and live the fictional life of Riley on benefits.

Many people are doing exactly this. Look at the statistics around economically inactive people in Britain.

RowsOfFlowers · 07/07/2025 12:42

Bumpitybumper · 07/07/2025 09:32

Many people are doing exactly this. Look at the statistics around economically inactive people in Britain.

Exactly. And morally, I believe that to be wrong, and that is why I’m not doing it.

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BIossomtoes · 07/07/2025 12:45

Bumpitybumper · 07/07/2025 09:32

Many people are doing exactly this. Look at the statistics around economically inactive people in Britain.

Economically inactive doesn’t equate to living on benefits. There was an epidemic of early retirement after Covid, those people are living on the private pensions they claimed early.

Bumpitybumper · 07/07/2025 12:59

BIossomtoes · 07/07/2025 12:45

Economically inactive doesn’t equate to living on benefits. There was an epidemic of early retirement after Covid, those people are living on the private pensions they claimed early.

There has been a rise in those living off benefits too. The increase in NEETs in particular points to a shift where young people no longer see the advantages of employment or education.

RowsOfFlowers · 07/07/2025 14:03

Bumpitybumper · 07/07/2025 12:59

There has been a rise in those living off benefits too. The increase in NEETs in particular points to a shift where young people no longer see the advantages of employment or education.

Yep, this is correct. The number of young people who are unemployed and claiming benefits has risen. As has those who have claimed it is due to mental heath reasons.

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JenniferBooth · 07/07/2025 14:06

RowsOfFlowers · 07/07/2025 14:03

Yep, this is correct. The number of young people who are unemployed and claiming benefits has risen. As has those who have claimed it is due to mental heath reasons.

yes its almost as if those lockdowns had consequences isnt it

RowsOfFlowers · 07/07/2025 14:17

The lockdowns had consequences for us all and in lots of different ways. I don’t think it’s acceptable 5 years on to still be blaming lockdowns, there’s plenty of support out there.

I do however feel for young people in deprived areas where there is a lack of jobs, for example pockets of the North of England.

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JenniferBooth · 07/07/2025 14:20

RowsOfFlowers · 07/07/2025 14:17

The lockdowns had consequences for us all and in lots of different ways. I don’t think it’s acceptable 5 years on to still be blaming lockdowns, there’s plenty of support out there.

I do however feel for young people in deprived areas where there is a lack of jobs, for example pockets of the North of England.

Its 20 years today since 7/7 Havent yet heard anyone say that its unacceptable for anyone affected to still have PTSD 20 years on.

cloudyblueglass · 07/07/2025 14:22

RowsOfFlowers · 07/07/2025 14:17

The lockdowns had consequences for us all and in lots of different ways. I don’t think it’s acceptable 5 years on to still be blaming lockdowns, there’s plenty of support out there.

I do however feel for young people in deprived areas where there is a lack of jobs, for example pockets of the North of England.

As a front line either in adult mental health (social care side) I can promise you, effective support is insanely thin on the ground. All that’s happening is firefighting.

RowsOfFlowers · 07/07/2025 14:26

cloudyblueglass · 07/07/2025 14:22

As a front line either in adult mental health (social care side) I can promise you, effective support is insanely thin on the ground. All that’s happening is firefighting.

I am also front line adult mental health. It depends on the area in terms of being thin on the ground to be perfectly honest, and the service.

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mylovedoesitgood · 07/07/2025 14:27

There are a myriad of reasons why some people aren’t working.

RowsOfFlowers · 07/07/2025 14:28

JenniferBooth · 07/07/2025 14:20

Its 20 years today since 7/7 Havent yet heard anyone say that its unacceptable for anyone affected to still have PTSD 20 years on.

That’s quite different and all of these conditions are case by case. I would suspect there are many cases that are not genuine I’m afraid.
of course in some cases they certainly are. It’s also possible to still work and have mh difficulties.

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RowsOfFlowers · 07/07/2025 14:29

I have met many people who do abuse the benefits system sadly. I’ve had people missing therapy or employment appointments so that they can go and get their hair or nails done as an examples.

There are some cases that are severe and very deserving of state support.

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