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Fact-Checking Farage

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BisiBodi · 07/05/2025 07:31

Nigel Farage recently stated: “7.2 million foreign-born people have registered with GPs in the last 10 years... All I'm doing here is giving you cold hard facts.”

Well, here’s a cold hard fact that is actually verifiable: 40.6% of GPs in England and Wales are foreign-born. The NHS wouldn’t survive without them. Foreign-born staff aren’t a burden—they’re the backbone.

Nigel Farage’s claim that "7.2 million foreign-born people have registered with GPs in the last 10 years" is highly misleading and requires context. And here’s why:

1. Misrepresentation of GP Registration Data
The 7.2 million figure likely comes from NHS Digital’s GP registration data, which tracks all new patient registrations, not just foreign-born individuals.
Many of these registrations are duplicates (e.g., people moving between GPs, students changing addresses, or babies being born).
The net increase in GP patients over the past decade is far lower—around 3 million (from ~59m in 2013 to ~62m in 2023).
NHS data experts have long cautioned against using raw registration numbers as proxies for migration—they’re too messy and often inflated.

2. Foreign-Born ≠ Recent Immigrants
The foreign-born population includes people who have lived in the UK for decades, not just recent arrivals.
Many are naturalised British citizens or long-term residents (e.g., those who arrived in the 1950s–2000s).
The ONS estimates the total foreign-born population in the UK is ~9.5 million (2021), meaning Farage’s claim would imply nearly 75% of all foreign-born people registered with GPs in just 10 years—an absurd exaggeration.
Farage’s figure also likely includes millions of EU citizens who were already living in the UK long before Brexit and simply remained after securing their rights through the EU Settlement Scheme. Over 5.6 million applications were made to the scheme, reflecting long-term residents—not new arrivals—who’ve been working, paying taxes, and contributing to British society for years.

3. The NHS Relies on Foreign-Born Staff
Farage’s framing ignores that 40.6% of GPs in England and Wales are foreign-born (Nuffield Trust, 2021).
Without them, the NHS would collapse—over 200,000 NHS staff (18%) are non-British, including 46% of doctors.
The NHS currently has over 120,000 staff vacancies, including critical shortages in nursing and general practice. Foreign-born staff are keeping the service afloat.
Many foreign-born NHS workers pay more in taxes than they use in services, helping fund the system—not drain it.

4. GP Registration ≠ Immigration Impact
Registering with a GP does not mean someone is a new immigrant—it’s required for anyone accessing healthcare, including:
British citizens returning from abroad
Children born to foreign parents (who are often British citizens)
EU citizens legally working in the UK
The UK has had net immigration of ~3.8 million in the last 10 years (not 7.2m), and even that includes students, workers, and family members—not all needing GP care immediately.

Conclusion
Farage’s claim is deliberately misleading—it conflates GP registrations (which include re-registrations and British citizens) with immigration figures, while ignoring that the NHS depends on foreign-born workers.
The real "cold hard fact" is that immigration has kept the NHS running, not overwhelmed it.

Recap:
GP Registrations ≠ Immigration
The 7.2m figure counts all new registrations—including:
Brits moving house
Babies being born
Students changing universities
Net patient growth (2013–2023): Only ~3 million (NHS Digital).
https://digital.nhs.uk/.../patients-registered-at-a-gp...

Foreign-Born ≠ “New Arrivals”
UK’s total foreign-born population: ~9.5m (many here for decades) (ONS).
https://www.ons.gov.uk/.../populat.../internationalmigration
Farage’s mathematics would mean 75% of all immigrants arrived in 10 years—obviously false.

NHS Runs on Immigrant Staff
40.6% of GPs are foreign-trained (Nuffield Trust).
https://www.nuffieldtrust.org.uk/.../the-nhs-workforce-in...
46% of doctors are foreign-born.
120,000 NHS vacancies exist—immigrants are saving the system, not breaking it.

Net Immigration: 3.8M (Not 7.2M)
Farage’s number is double the actual net migration (ONS).
https://www.ons.gov.uk/.../migrationstatisticsquar.../latest

The Bottom Line
Farage’s claim, yet again, is a deliberate con:
He’s using admin data (GP sign-ups) to inflate fear.
He’s ignoring that immigrants staff the NHS.
His mathematics don't add up.

The real crisis? Without foreign-born workers, your GP wait time would be years, not weeks.

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TeenagersAngst · 12/02/2026 12:13

finbow · 12/02/2026 11:55

I did. And what is that number, please? The number of all the respondents, not just FY2 doctors? And what is 34% of that?

And what is the overall number of uk doctors- that will help support your argument.
(edit to add not your argument, but the poster of the link)

Edited

The article is about FY2 doctors only as they are due to find work placements so it appears they were the only ones polled.

The quote isn't very clear because it cites two percentages who do not have work.

finbow · 12/02/2026 12:25

Right, so that poster said 34% of uk doctors can’t find work.
And then she linked the article which stated 34% of the respondents to that research (About 1k?, not clear as you said) don't know if they’ll have ‘regular locum work from next month’

Google tells me there are 300000 doctors employed in the country right now. 34% of all uk doctors is very different to what the linked article is talking about, right?

Kendodd · 12/02/2026 12:26

Haven't clicked your links because frankly they're irrelevant. Farage's side have said out loud and very clearly, they don't need facts, they have feelings.

TreadLight · 12/02/2026 12:26

One of the things you can be sure of with Farage is that his facts do stand up to scrutiny. The context may be questioned, but he knows anything he says will be pulled apart so he does tend to use statistics with some validity behind them.

user1476533931 · 12/02/2026 15:09

finbow · 12/02/2026 11:55

I did. And what is that number, please? The number of all the respondents, not just FY2 doctors? And what is 34% of that?

And what is the overall number of uk doctors- that will help support your argument.
(edit to add not your argument, but the poster of the link)

Edited

The numbers are irrelevant, the BMA are calling it a ‘looming unemployment crisis’ for British doctors. The BMA know a hell of a lot more than anyone on here! The problem is within the NHS, they are bringing in foreign doctors rather than employing British ones. That is a travesty and needs to be stopped.

finbow · 13/02/2026 09:39

Well, the numbers tell you it’s a tiny part of the overall uk doctors I.e ‘a looming crises’ is just a sensational exaggeration. Also you don’t know what number of those British doctors are British born/ dual citizens?

user1476533931 · 13/02/2026 12:59

finbow · 13/02/2026 09:39

Well, the numbers tell you it’s a tiny part of the overall uk doctors I.e ‘a looming crises’ is just a sensational exaggeration. Also you don’t know what number of those British doctors are British born/ dual citizens?

If the BMA are concerned and their quote is 34%, numbers are irrelevant you obviously you don’t understand surveys, then there is definitely a problem. I’m sure most people with any sense would accept their survey than your ‘opinion’!

finbow · 13/02/2026 13:07

user1476533931 · 13/02/2026 12:59

If the BMA are concerned and their quote is 34%, numbers are irrelevant you obviously you don’t understand surveys, then there is definitely a problem. I’m sure most people with any sense would accept their survey than your ‘opinion’!

Edited

You said 34% of uk doctors (~300k).
The BMA article said 34% of the respondents to the survey (~1k).
I thought you’d like to know you are posting something untrue.

user1476533931 · 13/02/2026 13:57

finbow · 13/02/2026 13:07

You said 34% of uk doctors (~300k).
The BMA article said 34% of the respondents to the survey (~1k).
I thought you’d like to know you are posting something untrue.

It also said over 4,000 were surveyed not 1,000! I wonder why you want to employ foreign doctors and see British doctors unemployed? That says something not very nice about you🤔.
This year, there were more than 30,000 doctors applying for just 10,000 specialty training places.

finbow · 14/02/2026 09:36

user1476533931 · 13/02/2026 13:57

It also said over 4,000 were surveyed not 1,000! I wonder why you want to employ foreign doctors and see British doctors unemployed? That says something not very nice about you🤔.
This year, there were more than 30,000 doctors applying for just 10,000 specialty training places.

Only 1000 of the 4000 surveyed have responded, and the 34% number is of those who responded. But you knew it’s not all doctors (300k+) even though that’s what you said.

You dont know what I want, and just made something up there, so that’s like wondering why the sky is red.

How many of those specialty training places were not given to British doctors because they were given to non British ones?

What is Nigel Farage proposing to do to fix the nhs? Or does he stop at making you resent Dr Kahn?

Dragonflytamer · 15/02/2026 08:18

Just copying stuff from Chatgpt isn't fact checking.

user1476533931 · 15/02/2026 12:35

finbow · 14/02/2026 09:36

Only 1000 of the 4000 surveyed have responded, and the 34% number is of those who responded. But you knew it’s not all doctors (300k+) even though that’s what you said.

You dont know what I want, and just made something up there, so that’s like wondering why the sky is red.

How many of those specialty training places were not given to British doctors because they were given to non British ones?

What is Nigel Farage proposing to do to fix the nhs? Or does he stop at making you resent Dr Kahn?

You didn’t answer my question. Why are you happy to import foreign doctors and see British doctors on the dole? and why are you assuming Dr Kahn is a foreigner? A bit racist my dear.

user1476533931 · 15/02/2026 12:36

Dragonflytamer · 15/02/2026 08:18

Just copying stuff from Chatgpt isn't fact checking.

What?

Dragonflytamer · 15/02/2026 14:07

user1476533931 · 15/02/2026 12:36

What?

The opening post is clearly copied from AI.

user1476533931 · 15/02/2026 14:13

Dragonflytamer · 15/02/2026 14:07

The opening post is clearly copied from AI.

I didn’t start the thread so don’t know. I only gave facts from the BMA website.

dwordle · 15/02/2026 15:32

Population increase of over 6 million in 10 years, that should concern everyone. Especially considering this has largely been down to immigration.

We shouldn't ignore that people are concerned and they should be concerned because

Services have not grown proportionally
Housing hasn't caught up
Cultural differences lead to tensions
Roads and cities are increasingly congested

Farage is simply an echo of those concerns. What politicians should be doing is addressing those concerns rather than ignoring them and calling everyone racist who dares to talk about it. This is what is fuelling the right, it's the fact no one else wants to talk about it.

Yes we need doctors, nurses, vets and we should look abroad to solve the problem right now but we should also be planning for the next ten years... making sure we have childrens aspirations to work in areas where there are skills shortages get there without being swallowed in debt.

Velentia · 15/02/2026 16:33

If the ~7 million were not here to be registered surely we would not need the 200,000 foreign born staff in the NHS. Then the doctors would not be overwhelmed. There would be more houses available and more space on the roads. More fields still green and not concreted over.
Life would be that little bit easier for all of us who are left including the home born descendants of those who came earlier.

Velentia · 15/02/2026 16:40

dubsie · 07/05/2025 08:19

Farage isn't actually interested in immigration, he's using it as a tool to get into number 10. Then it will a right wing agenda to impose his idea of utopia.

  1. No Welfare State
  2. No NHS
  3. No employment rights
  4. No entitlement to paid holidays
  5. No sick pay
  6. Very little consumer rights
  7. No environmental protection
  8. Lower food standards

That's what he's after

@dubsie Would you confirm those 'facts' please and confirm where this manifesto was published and who spoke in support of it?

Kendodd · 15/02/2026 20:16

dwordle · 15/02/2026 15:32

Population increase of over 6 million in 10 years, that should concern everyone. Especially considering this has largely been down to immigration.

We shouldn't ignore that people are concerned and they should be concerned because

Services have not grown proportionally
Housing hasn't caught up
Cultural differences lead to tensions
Roads and cities are increasingly congested

Farage is simply an echo of those concerns. What politicians should be doing is addressing those concerns rather than ignoring them and calling everyone racist who dares to talk about it. This is what is fuelling the right, it's the fact no one else wants to talk about it.

Yes we need doctors, nurses, vets and we should look abroad to solve the problem right now but we should also be planning for the next ten years... making sure we have childrens aspirations to work in areas where there are skills shortages get there without being swallowed in debt.

Yes but a great part of that number are here BECAUSE of Farage and his brexit. We swapped young single Europeans, who often left after a few years, for families from Africa and Asia who don't leave. The increased numbers are Farage's fault.

Hereforthecommentz · 15/02/2026 20:49

Kendodd · 15/02/2026 20:16

Yes but a great part of that number are here BECAUSE of Farage and his brexit. We swapped young single Europeans, who often left after a few years, for families from Africa and Asia who don't leave. The increased numbers are Farage's fault.

It was conservatives in power when brexit came in. Farage has not been in government, if he was he would have paid paid to the immigrants coming in. It's twenty years too late for reform unfortunately. People who celebrate having 40percent of foreign born nationals in our NHS are seriously retarded. This op is stupid 7.2 million extra people but a tiny proportion work in the NHS so we should be grateful 😂, please!! What are the real cost implications of housing, schooling, health, pensions for the 7 million people coming in. Tired of the lies around migration, tired of people pretending it's a net positive for our country. Tired of all the lies. Migrants aren't the route of all problems in this country obviously, but it does not help. Farage is popular because he understands people's frustrations around it and if you don't you're part of the problem. I don't want reform in power but I don't know who else is is going to sort out this issue and who else is going to tell the truth about multiculturalism and how it has caused issues in this country. It's all too late that's the sad thing. The trouble is white middle class people like having immigrants, they just want cheap labour.

dwordle · 15/02/2026 22:24

Velentia · 15/02/2026 16:40

@dubsie Would you confirm those 'facts' please and confirm where this manifesto was published and who spoke in support of it?

Farage way said very clearly he will privatise the NHS and healthcare will be funded not by taxation but by insurance.

He wants to roll back employment legislation and bring in an American style system....he said that.

Farage would be the worst thing to happen to this country in 60 years.

TeenagersAngst · 17/02/2026 07:20

dwordle · 15/02/2026 22:24

Farage way said very clearly he will privatise the NHS and healthcare will be funded not by taxation but by insurance.

He wants to roll back employment legislation and bring in an American style system....he said that.

Farage would be the worst thing to happen to this country in 60 years.

He has not said either of those things. He said the NHS will continue to be free at the point of use but that Reform is open to re-examining the NHS’s funding model.

https://fullfact.org/health/reform-nigel-farage-pay-for-nhs-labour/

Is Labour right to claim Reform UK would ‘scrap the NHS’? – Full Fact

In the run-up to the local elections, Labour is warning Reform UK would make people pay to use the health service—a claim the party’s strongly denied. Full Fact looks at the evidence.

https://fullfact.org/health/reform-nigel-farage-pay-for-nhs-labour/

EEexpat · 17/02/2026 10:51

@Kendodd

Farage's side have said out loud and very clearly, they don't need facts, they have feelings.

Can you provide evidence or a link for that statement?

Increased immigration in the UK is due increased immigration into the EU via Eastern European borders and the Mediterranean Sea. The more that enter the EU, the greater the number that will arrive in Calais.

Is the EUs failure to control their borders in Eastern Europe and the Mediterranean Sea attributable to the UK? No, it’s not.

Also, remember that UK ranks fifth in terms of immigration behind:

1st Germany
2nd France
3rd Spain
4th Italy

So, if being an EU member guarantees lower immigration, how do you explain that?

Kendodd · 17/02/2026 12:52

EEexpat · 17/02/2026 10:51

@Kendodd

Farage's side have said out loud and very clearly, they don't need facts, they have feelings.

Can you provide evidence or a link for that statement?

Increased immigration in the UK is due increased immigration into the EU via Eastern European borders and the Mediterranean Sea. The more that enter the EU, the greater the number that will arrive in Calais.

Is the EUs failure to control their borders in Eastern Europe and the Mediterranean Sea attributable to the UK? No, it’s not.

Also, remember that UK ranks fifth in terms of immigration behind:

1st Germany
2nd France
3rd Spain
4th Italy

So, if being an EU member guarantees lower immigration, how do you explain that?

Here you go, Aaron Bank describing how Leave 'led people up that garden path' and didn't need facts because they had feelings.
www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-politics-44446632

EEexpat · 21/02/2026 14:31

@Kendodd

Article 50 was triggered by 498 MPs on 29 March 2017, not by the referendum held on 23 June 2016.

If you trawl back through your own posts, you will find one in which you acknowledge that remain campaign was based in estimates.