Why do people like reform?

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I haven't been keeping very up to date with politics. I usually vote Labour. I don't really understand the popularity of reform, could anyone explain it to me?
As far as I'm aware Farage doesn't actually do anything when he wins a seat somewhere so I'm not convinced they'll actually do anything? Is it just a protest vote that's gone a bit far?

I'm asking you about solutions. I'm talking about Reform policies and asking how they are going to implement those policies.

For example, you say you want to enforce borders. I've asked how, you haven't answered.

I've talked about tackling the root of why people come here. You say it's pointless and we can't stop them.

You've talked about detention centres and I've asked where they're going to be and how we pay for them and you don't know.

If you don't support Reform and know nothing about their policies, I'm not sure what you're doing.

Well I could of course ask you the same question.

Why do you think people like Reform?

I gave my reason for thinking why people like Reform very early in this thread. People don't like the alternative two main parties. Reform's challenge will be to change a negative vote against Labour and the Conservatives into a positive vote for Reform and that will depend on their final policies. It's too early to judge yet whether these will be popular in themselves. I understand that they haven't finalised their manifesto and they have plenty of time. We have four more years of this shitshow to get through first.

People like Reform because they offer simple solutions to complex problems.

Complex problems that have not be solved by the two main parties and which Labour seem to be making much worse.

You don't support them so what are the party you support going to do about the complex problems?

Your figures are out of date, that was announced in 2024. This year, Labour have announced £6bn CUT to foreign aid to make way for increased defence spending due to geopolitical instability.

As it happens I don't think overseas climate aid is useless. Reducing the effects of climate change in the areas where it is most keenly felt is absolutely essential. Climate change is causing changes in weather patterns and increased extreme weather events and natural disasters. This means more displaced people, more infectious disease (in humans, animals and plants aka crops), more contaminated water, failed crops. These things all affect us, domestically, even if they are happening Over There 👉 on The Other Continent. Food prices rise, novel and mutations of known diseases and infections run rife and become endemic to new areas (they do not respect borders), displaced people have to be temporarily accommodated. Not to mention the diplomacy aspects. Hunkering down as a little island and pretending the rest of the world doesn't exist and we shouldn't have to participate is dangerous nonsense.

It will have absolutely no effect. The key is China. Not the UK.

The UK has pledged to spend £11.6 billion on climate aid up until 2026 and Labour have committed to this figure.

The cut to winter fuel payments will save £1.5 billion.

Thank you for your thoughtful comment. I too have lived in ' developing countries'. Parts of which could accurately be described as third world ( Eastern Europe). My town ( which, understandably voted for Brexit in higher numbers than anywhere else in the country, recently elected Richard Tice as their MP, and have just returned a Reform candidate as Greater Lincolnshire Mayor) is, AFTER Brexit now host to a massive Eastern Europe population. There is a great deal of resentment at the amount of people pissing and shitting in public, groups sat in public, spitting out piles of sunflower seed husks where ever they congregate, general harassment of young women and blatant, organised shoplifting and begging. I know, without any doubt, that the groups doing this are from the very, very worst areas of their own countries. I can only imagine that their countries of origin are heartily glad to be rid of them.

What has Tice done regarding the situation?

I agree that China & the USA need to do more but the fact they aren't means that building climate change resilience in high risk areas is more important than ever.

Absolutely nothing. Don't think he even lives nearby. Possibly has purchased a ' property in the area. But that's not the point. The point is nobody, over a period of 11years, has done anything about it. And people are sick of it. They are looking for ANY alternative.

You want us, in our country, to address poverty, in countries around the world? No. No thank you. Entirely unrealistic, and disingenuous.

Well as I said upthread I will want to vote at the GE as women died for us to have that right but I don't know for which party yet. I've got time to make up my mind and will wait to see the manifestos.

It sounds like neglect and lack of investment. One thing I would have done is introduced on the spot fines for spitting seeds but you need to pay someone to collect the fines.

It sounds awful and I'm sorry to hear you're going through that. Unfortunately council's have been cut to the bone and there's not much they can do with no cash.

I believe a new Reform mayor is talking about DOGE type cuts. I wonder how the locals will feel when she cuts departments and there are fewer services and thousands lose their jobs.

Desperate times.

So they’ve got the alternative and nothing has changed. Maybe if your MP spent a little more time in Skegness and less in Dubai things might improve. I sincerely hope he won’t be reelected.

No problem at all. What's the solution to people fleeing to Europe because of poverty?

The thing is, addressing global inequalities would mean fewer "boat people". Improving the quality of life in their own countries and communities would mean that they were less inclined to risk their lives coming over here to work in shitty shops, takeaways or just sitting on the streets until their claim is processed. It would make the 'new life' in the UK unattractive because it was the same or less than what they have at home where they speak the language and have family and friends.

Completely agree but apparently this is disengenuous.

How can we address global inequalities when we can't even sort out our own country? Why is it our responsibility to sort out corrupt and incompetent governments in other countries? I thought we had learnt not to interfere. Plus we can't afford it.

Don't care. Not our problem. Do we have to feed the world ?

According to you we can’t afford anything. Strange that we always used to be able to afford decent public services and foreign aid, where’s all the money gone?

I thought it was our concern because apparently we don't want people coming here who are fleeing poverty.

It's strange isn't it? You'd think people had heard about the enormous council underfunding from central government in the last 15 years. Services are already beyond skeletal.

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