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Anti-Musk satire flourishes

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MsAmerica · 13/04/2025 00:11

‘0 to 1939 in 3 seconds’: Why Anti-Elon Musk Satire Is Flourishing in Britain
By Michael D. Shear

On the side of an East London bus stop, one of them shows Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, emerging from a Tesla’s roof with his hand pointing upward in a straight-armed salute. “Goes from 0 to 1939 in 3 seconds,” the ad reads. “Tesla. The Swasticar.”

Another mock ad shows Mr. Musk and President Trump in front of a red Tesla with the words: “Now With White Power Steering.” In North London, a fake movie billboard blares: “The Fast and the Führer,” with a picture of Mr. Musk saluting beside a Tesla with a DOGE license plate, a reference to the budget-slashing federal agency he currently leads on behalf of Mr. Trump...

In Britain, Mr. Musk is known for sharing misinformation about a child rape scandal and calling for Prime Minister Keir Starmer to be jailed. He has called for the release of Tommy Robinson, a far-right, anti-immigrant agitator who is in prison for contempt of court. And he criticized the seven-year sentence of a neo-Nazi who incited and took part in anti-immigrant riots last summer.

The small anti-Musk groups that have popped up around Europe have the same basic goal: Tank Tesla’s stock price and sales as a way of sending a message to Mr. Musk and other super-wealthy people who are thinking of promoting far-right politics around the world...

There are mock car air fresheners called “Musk-B-Gone” that promise to cover “the stench of fascism.”

For the whole article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/06/world/europe/anti-elon-musk-tesla-ads.html

https://dnyuz.com/2025/04/06/0-to-1939-in-3-seconds-why-anti-elon-musk-satire-is-flourishing-in-britain/

OP posts:
BlueEyedBogWitch · 13/04/2025 04:34

Good. The prick.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 07:11

I did approve of Elon Musk highlighting the child grooming gang scandal though. Although that seems to have been kicked into the long grass again.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 07:16

MsAmerica · 13/04/2025 00:11

‘0 to 1939 in 3 seconds’: Why Anti-Elon Musk Satire Is Flourishing in Britain
By Michael D. Shear

On the side of an East London bus stop, one of them shows Elon Musk, the world’s richest man, emerging from a Tesla’s roof with his hand pointing upward in a straight-armed salute. “Goes from 0 to 1939 in 3 seconds,” the ad reads. “Tesla. The Swasticar.”

Another mock ad shows Mr. Musk and President Trump in front of a red Tesla with the words: “Now With White Power Steering.” In North London, a fake movie billboard blares: “The Fast and the Führer,” with a picture of Mr. Musk saluting beside a Tesla with a DOGE license plate, a reference to the budget-slashing federal agency he currently leads on behalf of Mr. Trump...

In Britain, Mr. Musk is known for sharing misinformation about a child rape scandal and calling for Prime Minister Keir Starmer to be jailed. He has called for the release of Tommy Robinson, a far-right, anti-immigrant agitator who is in prison for contempt of court. And he criticized the seven-year sentence of a neo-Nazi who incited and took part in anti-immigrant riots last summer.

The small anti-Musk groups that have popped up around Europe have the same basic goal: Tank Tesla’s stock price and sales as a way of sending a message to Mr. Musk and other super-wealthy people who are thinking of promoting far-right politics around the world...

There are mock car air fresheners called “Musk-B-Gone” that promise to cover “the stench of fascism.”

For the whole article:

https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/06/world/europe/anti-elon-musk-tesla-ads.html

https://dnyuz.com/2025/04/06/0-to-1939-in-3-seconds-why-anti-elon-musk-satire-is-flourishing-in-britain/

In Britain, Mr. Musk is known for sharing misinformation about a child rape scandal and calling for Prime Minister Keir Starmer to be jailed. He has called for the release of Tommy Robinson, a far-right, anti-immigrant agitator who is in prison for contempt of court. And he criticized the seven-year sentence of a neo-Nazi who incited and took part in anti-immigrant riots last summer.

Only the point about Tommy Robinson is valid in this paragraph (Elon Musk was wrong on that). He was right about the other points; the author has been a bit misleading in his wording there.
Im not defending Elon Musk. There's a lot of things he is doing that I dont agree with. But there are some things that I do agree with.

Never2many · 13/04/2025 07:30

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 07:16

In Britain, Mr. Musk is known for sharing misinformation about a child rape scandal and calling for Prime Minister Keir Starmer to be jailed. He has called for the release of Tommy Robinson, a far-right, anti-immigrant agitator who is in prison for contempt of court. And he criticized the seven-year sentence of a neo-Nazi who incited and took part in anti-immigrant riots last summer.

Only the point about Tommy Robinson is valid in this paragraph (Elon Musk was wrong on that). He was right about the other points; the author has been a bit misleading in his wording there.
Im not defending Elon Musk. There's a lot of things he is doing that I dont agree with. But there are some things that I do agree with.

Ffs MNHQ please remove the ability to quote the OP. or do you really think that people can’t read the post that came two posts before yours?

Never2many · 13/04/2025 07:33

Elon Musk is done in the states as well - he and Trump have fallen out.

He already was almost done with doge because constitutionally he could only be there for 130 days.

But since Wisconsin lost the election that he sponsored Trump already had it in for him. And he has subsequently been very openly critical of Trumps’ mishandling of the economy through tariffs etc.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 07:42

Never2many · 13/04/2025 07:30

Ffs MNHQ please remove the ability to quote the OP. or do you really think that people can’t read the post that came two posts before yours?

Oh stop being ridiculous, calm down and read my post. I'm quoting a specific section of the OPs original post.

HappiestSleeping · 13/04/2025 07:46

I saw a car sticker on a Tesla the other day that said "we bought this before we knew Elon Musk was crazy".

I laughed, but would probably suggest that most of us have known he is crazy for a long time.

Never2many · 13/04/2025 08:09

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 07:42

Oh stop being ridiculous, calm down and read my post. I'm quoting a specific section of the OPs original post.

Then copy the bit of post you want to highlight and paste it in bold. It’s not that hard.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 08:21

Never2many · 13/04/2025 08:09

Then copy the bit of post you want to highlight and paste it in bold. It’s not that hard.

I thought I did? It took me ages.

Oh I see why you are so very agitated. I didn't notice the top part of the post had attached itself. That was inadvertent. I'm sorry it upset you so much you had to use the FFS word. Although TBF I can do what I like...and you can report my post of course.

Any thoughts about my actual post? Or are we just going to quibble about something inconsequential.

Circularmadness · 13/04/2025 08:32

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 07:16

In Britain, Mr. Musk is known for sharing misinformation about a child rape scandal and calling for Prime Minister Keir Starmer to be jailed. He has called for the release of Tommy Robinson, a far-right, anti-immigrant agitator who is in prison for contempt of court. And he criticized the seven-year sentence of a neo-Nazi who incited and took part in anti-immigrant riots last summer.

Only the point about Tommy Robinson is valid in this paragraph (Elon Musk was wrong on that). He was right about the other points; the author has been a bit misleading in his wording there.
Im not defending Elon Musk. There's a lot of things he is doing that I dont agree with. But there are some things that I do agree with.

Elon Musk did churn out misinformation about the UK’s grooming gangs through X posts. He falsely claimed Keir Starmer, as Director of Public Prosecutions, was complicit in ignoring child sexual exploitation for political gain. In reality, Starmer oversaw the 2012 Rochdale prosecution and revised CPS guidelines in 2013 to support victims, with no evidence of political motives. Musk also exaggerated the scale, asserting a “quarter-million girls” are currently abused by “migrant gangs.” Inquiries, such as the 2014 Jay Report, document thousands of historical victims, not hundreds of thousands, primarily abused by British-born men, not migrants, with no data supporting ongoing abuse at that level.
He called Jess Phillips a “rape genocide apologist” for opposing a national inquiry. She favoured local investigations, consistent with expert recommendations.
He’s wrongly suggested grooming gangs are predominantly Muslim, most UK child sex offenders are white.
Musk’s claim that Tommy Robinson was jailed for exposing grooming gangs is an overt lie, it was for contempt of court, unrelated to these cases. These misrepresentations distort the documented history of the scandals and their perpetrators, it does no favours to the victims either. If you look at Elons behaviour and support for far right political parties and the fact that MAGA’s align with Russia, who rape children as warfare in Ukraine, I don’t think Elon really gives a shit about girls being raped, he cares about whipping up anti immigration sentiment, dividing society and spinning a misleading narrative.

Longtalljosie · 13/04/2025 08:49

The quote element failed - this is a reply to @Thoughtsonstuff saying
"I did approve of Elon Musk highlighting the child grooming gang scandal though. Although that seems to have been kicked into the long grass again."

Did you? Let me attempt to change your mind.

Firstly, let's not forget that Musk called Jess Phillips, a woman who has devoted much of her political life to tacking VAWG, and who supports victims of grooming, as a "rape apologist". Which isn't so much misinformation as full-on DARVO.

Secondly - I would urge you to read the Jay Report into this issue. It's a long read, and a hard one. I covered this report as a journalist, and also listened to the evidence given to select committees on this issue as well. Some of the stuff I heard has never left me.

I would say to you that national public inquiries have been used as political footballs for some time - calling for one in bad faith (not because you think it's the best response but because you know the government won't do it because it's not the best response and then you get to make them look bad) or holding one because it's an expensive, time-consuming way of kicking the can down the road.

The Jay report wasn't one of those instances, but it had a difficult birth because no one was seen as being good enough to do it - have a look here at Wikipedia under "Chair of Inquiry" for more details. That's all accurate.

The report is excellent but has never been fully implemented. So my view as someone who knows a lot more about UK public inquiries than Elon Musk, and as someone who has studied the Jay Report in detail, that the first and only thing that needs doing is implementing the Jay findings in full. That and having a better response from social services, who didn't get enough heat on the aspects of the report findings relating to them being too weak on challenging bad behaviour from older ethnic minority men for fear of being thought racist, and making assumptions on the life choices of teenage white, working class girls.

The media did not help on this. Sarah Champion wrote an opinion piece which was a straightforward assessment of the Jay evidence and got called a racist for doing so. This is a difficult paragraph to write because the whole episode gave succour to actual racists, but the report found that while child sexual abuse is not prevalent in any particular ethnicity (so claiming that kids are at especial risk from any particular ethnic group is bollocks) - that there is a mindset among a subset of south Asian heritage predators that white working class girls are fair game because they wear short skirts / are out late.

So. I do agree with the current government that before having any further national inquiry, we should do what Alexis Jay recommended, at speed. Then we can talk further. But - and here's the kicker - while I agree with them on that, I would like to see evidence of them implementing those recommendations.

Independent Inquiry into Child Sexual Abuse - Wikipedia

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Independent_Inquiry_into_Child_Sexual_Abuse

LizzieSiddal · 13/04/2025 08:55

He’s a nasty piece of work and am enjoying watching him and Trump getting their just desserts.

Also I bet dh Musk wouldn’t last 3 months working with Trump. Two narcissists never work well together.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 08:57

The numbers of victims of the rape gangs have not been established as there has not been a national enquiry. We do not know the extent of police and local.authority collusion. We do not know if it is still going on. Why? Because Keir Starmer will not authorise a national enquiry but has instead passed some money to local.authoriries to investigate themselves. Which they don't want to do. Why will Keir Starmer not investigate nationally? The Muslim vote. The journalist Charlie Peters has been investigating this for years. He has found 50 areas nationwide where extensive organised gangs operated and still continue to do

The rape gangs were predominantly from Pakistani muslim tribal backgrounds. They specifically targeted white non Muslim girls. Because the perpetrators were muslim/Pakistani the police and authorities turned a blind eye. The ethnicity and religion of the victims and perpetrators in this case is therefore of utmost importance. Yes obviously there are white sex offenders..the UK is still a predominantly white country. But these particular set of circumstances and the scale and national scope and organised nature of these groomimg gangs together with the lack of action to prevent it and the racist reasoning behind it are unprecedented. It needs to be accepted and dealt with rather than excused with "whataboutery" or blurring the issue with talks of Ukraine/white sex offenders. I question the motives of those that try those tactics.

Elon highlighted this. He did a good thing in this area.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 09:07

Longtalljosie · 13/04/2025 08:49

The quote element failed - this is a reply to @Thoughtsonstuff saying
"I did approve of Elon Musk highlighting the child grooming gang scandal though. Although that seems to have been kicked into the long grass again."

Did you? Let me attempt to change your mind.

Firstly, let's not forget that Musk called Jess Phillips, a woman who has devoted much of her political life to tacking VAWG, and who supports victims of grooming, as a "rape apologist". Which isn't so much misinformation as full-on DARVO.

Secondly - I would urge you to read the Jay Report into this issue. It's a long read, and a hard one. I covered this report as a journalist, and also listened to the evidence given to select committees on this issue as well. Some of the stuff I heard has never left me.

I would say to you that national public inquiries have been used as political footballs for some time - calling for one in bad faith (not because you think it's the best response but because you know the government won't do it because it's not the best response and then you get to make them look bad) or holding one because it's an expensive, time-consuming way of kicking the can down the road.

The Jay report wasn't one of those instances, but it had a difficult birth because no one was seen as being good enough to do it - have a look here at Wikipedia under "Chair of Inquiry" for more details. That's all accurate.

The report is excellent but has never been fully implemented. So my view as someone who knows a lot more about UK public inquiries than Elon Musk, and as someone who has studied the Jay Report in detail, that the first and only thing that needs doing is implementing the Jay findings in full. That and having a better response from social services, who didn't get enough heat on the aspects of the report findings relating to them being too weak on challenging bad behaviour from older ethnic minority men for fear of being thought racist, and making assumptions on the life choices of teenage white, working class girls.

The media did not help on this. Sarah Champion wrote an opinion piece which was a straightforward assessment of the Jay evidence and got called a racist for doing so. This is a difficult paragraph to write because the whole episode gave succour to actual racists, but the report found that while child sexual abuse is not prevalent in any particular ethnicity (so claiming that kids are at especial risk from any particular ethnic group is bollocks) - that there is a mindset among a subset of south Asian heritage predators that white working class girls are fair game because they wear short skirts / are out late.

So. I do agree with the current government that before having any further national inquiry, we should do what Alexis Jay recommended, at speed. Then we can talk further. But - and here's the kicker - while I agree with them on that, I would like to see evidence of them implementing those recommendations.

Edited

You won't change my mind. I'm right on this.

A national enquiry is needed to establish where these gangs operated and continue to operate. Piecemeal investigations by local authorities marking their own homework is insufficient. What if you are the child victim of a grooming gang in an area outside the 5 the government have chosen? There's clearly a huge problem nationwide and this will continue to rumble on unless a proper investigation is carried out. We have them for all sorts of things; why not for the mass rape of children for years in every area of the UK and the police turned a blind eye? Pressure needs to continue to be applied. Elon Musk has the reach that not many people do.

Jess Philips is a disgrace.

I agree re PP about Tommy Robinson which I've already said in my first post.

localnotail · 13/04/2025 09:08

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 08:57

The numbers of victims of the rape gangs have not been established as there has not been a national enquiry. We do not know the extent of police and local.authority collusion. We do not know if it is still going on. Why? Because Keir Starmer will not authorise a national enquiry but has instead passed some money to local.authoriries to investigate themselves. Which they don't want to do. Why will Keir Starmer not investigate nationally? The Muslim vote. The journalist Charlie Peters has been investigating this for years. He has found 50 areas nationwide where extensive organised gangs operated and still continue to do

The rape gangs were predominantly from Pakistani muslim tribal backgrounds. They specifically targeted white non Muslim girls. Because the perpetrators were muslim/Pakistani the police and authorities turned a blind eye. The ethnicity and religion of the victims and perpetrators in this case is therefore of utmost importance. Yes obviously there are white sex offenders..the UK is still a predominantly white country. But these particular set of circumstances and the scale and national scope and organised nature of these groomimg gangs together with the lack of action to prevent it and the racist reasoning behind it are unprecedented. It needs to be accepted and dealt with rather than excused with "whataboutery" or blurring the issue with talks of Ukraine/white sex offenders. I question the motives of those that try those tactics.

Elon highlighted this. He did a good thing in this area.

Your post is based only on assumptions/ conspiracy theories, which is what Musk bases all of his bullshit propaganda on X. Please re-read a very thorough post above by @Longtalljosie and maybe study the references she provided.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 09:11

localnotail · 13/04/2025 09:08

Your post is based only on assumptions/ conspiracy theories, which is what Musk bases all of his bullshit propaganda on X. Please re-read a very thorough post above by @Longtalljosie and maybe study the references she provided.

It's not a conspiracy theory and if people start going down that route to cover up the nature of this there is going to be hell to pay.
Please read the investigations or watch the interviews with Charlie Peters. There's currently concerted effort to cover this up and it just cannot happen for the sake of all the victims.

Halfemptyhalfling · 13/04/2025 09:13

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 08:57

The numbers of victims of the rape gangs have not been established as there has not been a national enquiry. We do not know the extent of police and local.authority collusion. We do not know if it is still going on. Why? Because Keir Starmer will not authorise a national enquiry but has instead passed some money to local.authoriries to investigate themselves. Which they don't want to do. Why will Keir Starmer not investigate nationally? The Muslim vote. The journalist Charlie Peters has been investigating this for years. He has found 50 areas nationwide where extensive organised gangs operated and still continue to do

The rape gangs were predominantly from Pakistani muslim tribal backgrounds. They specifically targeted white non Muslim girls. Because the perpetrators were muslim/Pakistani the police and authorities turned a blind eye. The ethnicity and religion of the victims and perpetrators in this case is therefore of utmost importance. Yes obviously there are white sex offenders..the UK is still a predominantly white country. But these particular set of circumstances and the scale and national scope and organised nature of these groomimg gangs together with the lack of action to prevent it and the racist reasoning behind it are unprecedented. It needs to be accepted and dealt with rather than excused with "whataboutery" or blurring the issue with talks of Ukraine/white sex offenders. I question the motives of those that try those tactics.

Elon highlighted this. He did a good thing in this area.

The ethnicity element was already widely known. The government had already spent a huge amount of taxpayers money on the jay report, elon had nothing to add. He just wasted politicians time due to his own white south African racism.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 09:14

Halfemptyhalfling · 13/04/2025 09:13

The ethnicity element was already widely known. The government had already spent a huge amount of taxpayers money on the jay report, elon had nothing to add. He just wasted politicians time due to his own white south African racism.

The effect that his intervention had is the important part.

localnotail · 13/04/2025 09:25

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 09:11

It's not a conspiracy theory and if people start going down that route to cover up the nature of this there is going to be hell to pay.
Please read the investigations or watch the interviews with Charlie Peters. There's currently concerted effort to cover this up and it just cannot happen for the sake of all the victims.

Where is the "effort to covered up" when there are still ongoing enquiries and investigations into it, and its being discussed by politicians and journalists? This is not my definition of "cover up".

Jay report covers all the issues you have referred to, there are no secrets relating to race element and no one tries to hide it.

GB News is not something I would find trustworthy or reliable. I also dont listen to Fox News, or read X. Elon's aim is to destabilise our country and to give a leg up to far right, he made this clear. I would not support this in any shape or form.

localnotail · 13/04/2025 09:27

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 09:14

The effect that his intervention had is the important part.

The only effect of his intervention is increase of racism/ anti-Muslim sentiment and division within our society. Basically, exactly what he wanted to achieve.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 09:32

localnotail · 13/04/2025 09:25

Where is the "effort to covered up" when there are still ongoing enquiries and investigations into it, and its being discussed by politicians and journalists? This is not my definition of "cover up".

Jay report covers all the issues you have referred to, there are no secrets relating to race element and no one tries to hide it.

GB News is not something I would find trustworthy or reliable. I also dont listen to Fox News, or read X. Elon's aim is to destabilise our country and to give a leg up to far right, he made this clear. I would not support this in any shape or form.

No one has been prosecuted about failings in investigating a serious crime. No one has resigned for the failings. The person who was head of the DPP is ultimately responsible for the failure to prosecute and yet he seems happily ensconced in Number 10.

I just think the utmost clarity needs to be sustained in this. No whataboutery. No victim blaming. No twisty turny Jess Philips rubbish. Acceptance of ethnicity and motives. There needs to be a full national enquiry not the piecemeal attempts we have had so far. Heads need to roll to show the scandal is being taken seriously. Otherwise it will look like a cover up to most people to avoid "community tensions". I get it. It's a scary prospect if things kick off. The best disinfectant is sunlight and if the government handle things evenly and using just one tier it could be positive for the victims.

localnotail · 13/04/2025 09:39

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 09:32

No one has been prosecuted about failings in investigating a serious crime. No one has resigned for the failings. The person who was head of the DPP is ultimately responsible for the failure to prosecute and yet he seems happily ensconced in Number 10.

I just think the utmost clarity needs to be sustained in this. No whataboutery. No victim blaming. No twisty turny Jess Philips rubbish. Acceptance of ethnicity and motives. There needs to be a full national enquiry not the piecemeal attempts we have had so far. Heads need to roll to show the scandal is being taken seriously. Otherwise it will look like a cover up to most people to avoid "community tensions". I get it. It's a scary prospect if things kick off. The best disinfectant is sunlight and if the government handle things evenly and using just one tier it could be positive for the victims.

There have been a comprehensive report into this, what more do you want? We can't go wasting taxpayers money purely because some people don't agree with its findings. You also can't prosecute someone if there is no evidence, or call for this evidence to be found when it doesn't exist. I get it, you were told it does exist by teh journalist you mention, but you have to remember all the evidence you have is someone's opinion. Not facts.

Anyway, you said earlier that nothing would change your opinion on this matter, so I probably should leave it. But believe me, whatever you think is right or wrong on this matter, Musk is not a friend of our country and he should not be allowed to interfere on any level. The guy is bad news.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 09:42

localnotail · 13/04/2025 09:39

There have been a comprehensive report into this, what more do you want? We can't go wasting taxpayers money purely because some people don't agree with its findings. You also can't prosecute someone if there is no evidence, or call for this evidence to be found when it doesn't exist. I get it, you were told it does exist by teh journalist you mention, but you have to remember all the evidence you have is someone's opinion. Not facts.

Anyway, you said earlier that nothing would change your opinion on this matter, so I probably should leave it. But believe me, whatever you think is right or wrong on this matter, Musk is not a friend of our country and he should not be allowed to interfere on any level. The guy is bad news.

We haven't had a comprehensive report at all! There's been piecemeal investigations in specific areas and the worst areas are barely mentioned. That's the whole point and why Jess Philips is getting such a hard time at the moment.

Anyway I'm derailing a thread about slagging off Elon Musk. Which I'm obviously quite happy to do. But not in this area where I think he did a positive thing.

Longtalljosie · 13/04/2025 11:55

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 09:42

We haven't had a comprehensive report at all! There's been piecemeal investigations in specific areas and the worst areas are barely mentioned. That's the whole point and why Jess Philips is getting such a hard time at the moment.

Anyway I'm derailing a thread about slagging off Elon Musk. Which I'm obviously quite happy to do. But not in this area where I think he did a positive thing.

Edited

It is really clear to me that you haven’t read the Jay Report. Since this issue clearly matters to you, I would urge you to do so (it is long) so you can be sure you are not spreading misinformation online.

Thoughtsonstuff · 13/04/2025 14:06

Longtalljosie · 13/04/2025 11:55

It is really clear to me that you haven’t read the Jay Report. Since this issue clearly matters to you, I would urge you to do so (it is long) so you can be sure you are not spreading misinformation online.

Remind me when this report was published, the scope and specific areas of the UK it covered and how many people have been held responsible for the huge failings of the last few decades. It didn't do the job. It wasn't enough. I get you are following the Labour line on this. I know why the Government is treating this issue the way it is. But they are setting the country up for a big fall and it's a great worry.