Page 3 | Too many fake current affairs posts on MN

bozzabollix · 11/01/2025 07:43

username299 · 11/01/2025 00:41

It's ridiculous and a lot of it is sealioning. You repeat the same thing over and over again to cookie cutter Reform voters.

Illegal immigrants, two tier Keir, toolmaker, Rachel from Accounts, Muslims, Musk, immigrants, terrified, I'm not far right you're far right...it's tiresome.

And my favourite one today: Google it. When asked for evidence. Google it. Haven't you heard of Google?

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Yep, same phrases. Reminds me of all the Covid denying ‘do your own research’ which was literally repeated word for word everywhere. Drove me insane. Hopefully bots because if not it’d be the least independent thinkers in history.

myplace · 11/01/2025 08:02

inthetrenches1 · 11/01/2025 07:41

I’m not a lifelong voter of one particular party, in the last few elections I have voted Conservative, Green and Liberal Democrat (not necessarily in that order) so anyone thinking I am a die hard Labour fan is mistaken. I pride myself on educating myself of the various viewpoints and actual real information provided by the parties themselves, and media. I don’t put my head in the sand and I recognise what’s going on in the world.

i also understand social media is an echo chamber. Who we surround ourselves with, what things appear in front of us thanks to our algorithms, perpetuate what we believe and don’t always give ourselves a rounded world-view.

If I could be bothered I would go into the widely-reported and documented sustained campaign of misinformation that stems from R*ssia, something that began before Brexit (one of their successes to destabilise NATO and Europe generally), and the resulting fallout (Aron Banks, Farage, Musk etc). But I really don’t have energy. The sheer scale of misinformation nowadays is really concerning, and I’ve seen so many posts on here recently where a poster will throw a “Labour is crashing the economy” grenade and people who read these types of headlines take it as gospel. The Conservatives misreported their finances and didn’t mention a £21billion fiscal black hole as was reported by the OBR in Q4 of last year, and I’ve seen folk talk about it as Labour have spent £21billion 🤔🤔 The lack of education and increase of misinformation is frightening.

So having argued against you on another post, this one I do agree with.

I think I just scroll past any post that trumpets anything, to be honest. Whether right or left. I’m drawn to the discussions and conversations and tune out anything with a nasty name (Rachel from Accounts, Two Tier) or unnuanced accusation.

ThisUsernameIsNowTaken · 11/01/2025 08:03

I see the same from Labour supporters and union reps. There is one poster in particular that riles up support with thread after thread on this forum before each strike. Not everyone is a bot who doesn't think the Labour government are wonderful, OP.

EasternStandard · 11/01/2025 08:05

inthetrenches1 · 11/01/2025 07:41

I’m not a lifelong voter of one particular party, in the last few elections I have voted Conservative, Green and Liberal Democrat (not necessarily in that order) so anyone thinking I am a die hard Labour fan is mistaken. I pride myself on educating myself of the various viewpoints and actual real information provided by the parties themselves, and media. I don’t put my head in the sand and I recognise what’s going on in the world.

i also understand social media is an echo chamber. Who we surround ourselves with, what things appear in front of us thanks to our algorithms, perpetuate what we believe and don’t always give ourselves a rounded world-view.

If I could be bothered I would go into the widely-reported and documented sustained campaign of misinformation that stems from R*ssia, something that began before Brexit (one of their successes to destabilise NATO and Europe generally), and the resulting fallout (Aron Banks, Farage, Musk etc). But I really don’t have energy. The sheer scale of misinformation nowadays is really concerning, and I’ve seen so many posts on here recently where a poster will throw a “Labour is crashing the economy” grenade and people who read these types of headlines take it as gospel. The Conservatives misreported their finances and didn’t mention a £21billion fiscal black hole as was reported by the OBR in Q4 of last year, and I’ve seen folk talk about it as Labour have spent £21billion 🤔🤔 The lack of education and increase of misinformation is frightening.

Outside mn there’s plenty of discussion re recent economic impact and markets

Plenty of criticism of Starmer and co too

I think people need to accept this site isn’t just for Labour posters as public sentiment has moved on.

Multiple posts from Labour about ‘bots’ on every thread is tedious and since they’re polling around the same as Reform the same amount currently support the latter

It’s a public site not a closed Labour one

shockeditellyou · 11/01/2025 08:24

Yeah, I get the impression we’re being targeted en mass….It’s not subtle. All about how shit the UK is, and why it’s the Labour government’s fault.

shockeditellyou · 11/01/2025 08:28

Also lots more US posters these days, too.

justasking111 · 11/01/2025 08:39

It really doesn't help when Starmer himself spouts right wing trouble makers so often. He said it the other day about people wanting action on the grooming gangs. Some of which are in Rachel Reeves constituency. That's a kick in the teeth to all.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 11/01/2025 08:39

inthetrenches1 · 10/01/2025 20:08

I’ve never started a post before (I don’t think?), I’m an on-off lurker for a while, but what’s become apparent is the number of posts on MN that have clearly been posted by political parties opposing the government. It’s just another tactic used these days like creating online petitions and fake polls about issues/fake issues to get sectors of society riled up about things they were never worried about before.

Misinformation filtering into society is at an all-time high. You can see them a mile away on here. Next time you see a “I’ve seen a poll saying Reform are more popular than Labour” just remember it’s probably a lackey of Farage and Tice’s, with seven mobile phones and three laptops, thirty different fake profiles on the go, gleefully making up these baseless posts on here and on social media.

If you want to leave a comment feel free, I only came here to post, I probably won’t be reading the replies

I’ve never started a post before ..... If you want to leave a comment feel free, I only came here to post, I probably won’t be reading the replies

😂

justasking111 · 11/01/2025 08:41

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 11/01/2025 08:39

I’ve never started a post before ..... If you want to leave a comment feel free, I only came here to post, I probably won’t be reading the replies

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I know 🙈.

SharpOpalNewt · 11/01/2025 08:43

I agree, OP, and it's something that will make me leave MN forever if it isn't sorted out soon.

HappyPanda613 · 11/01/2025 08:45

Mumsnet is a hugely influential website that is populated by thousands of British women, who traditionally lean left.

This is deliberate. Notice how they are trying to frame the subject around sexual violence and safety concerns, because as women this is what we are afraid of most. Don’t let them scare you into falling for their lies.

QuimCarrey · 11/01/2025 08:47

There've been bots on this site for eons. It's not new. HQ either can't or choose not to do anything about it.

EasternStandard · 11/01/2025 08:48

shockeditellyou · 11/01/2025 08:24

Yeah, I get the impression we’re being targeted en mass….It’s not subtle. All about how shit the UK is, and why it’s the Labour government’s fault.

Approval is dropping each week. The majority say that so why wouldn’t that be reflected on a public site?

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 11/01/2025 08:49

I agree OP, the repetition of phrases and themes makes it incredibly obvious. I guess it would be weird if Mumsnet wasn’t targeted - it’s an influential platform. Very hard to address, though.

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 11/01/2025 08:49

QuimCarrey · 11/01/2025 08:47

There've been bots on this site for eons. It's not new. HQ either can't or choose not to do anything about it.

So what exactly is a "bot"?

A fully automated AI agent programmed to seek out sites such as MumsNet and then auto-generate an anti-Labour post?
A human being who dislikes Labour and can't be arsed to write their own postings so gets ChatGPT write one and posts that?
A human being who endless name-changes to write anti-Labour posts?
A human being who has written an automated system to generate anti-Labour diatribes and post them specifically to MumsNet?
A human being who has been paid to do one of those things above?
A human being whose brain is fried so they have no thoughts except anti-Labour thoughts?

Or what?

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 11/01/2025 08:51

I would guess mostly paid campaigners, possibly using A.I. to generate posts. Not sure if that qualifies as a “bot”.

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inthetrenches1 · 11/01/2025 08:51

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 11/01/2025 08:39

I’ve never started a post before ..... If you want to leave a comment feel free, I only came here to post, I probably won’t be reading the replies

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And yet here I am!

OP posts:

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 11/01/2025 08:53

inthetrenches1 · 11/01/2025 08:51

And yet here I am!

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Indeed 😂 And not just reading but posting.

EasternStandard · 11/01/2025 08:54

CryingAtTheDiscotheque · 11/01/2025 08:49

I agree OP, the repetition of phrases and themes makes it incredibly obvious. I guess it would be weird if Mumsnet wasn’t targeted - it’s an influential platform. Very hard to address, though.

You don’t think Labour repeat phrases?

It really is odd how one party think this site is reserved for positive posts for them

Zonder · 11/01/2025 08:57

TheNuthatch · 11/01/2025 00:59

I haven't read into it as I don't really care tbh, but it does exist. A quick Google says the polling was done by Find Out Now. Other polls showing slightly different numbers, but still very healthy percentage gains for reform. I don't support reform by the way!

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A quick Google? Again proving the points made on here. You don't really care and yet you care enough to put some tenuous comment about it on here. You're doing a great job of providing evidence for what the OP said.

QuimCarrey · 11/01/2025 09:04

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 11/01/2025 08:49

So what exactly is a "bot"?

A fully automated AI agent programmed to seek out sites such as MumsNet and then auto-generate an anti-Labour post?
A human being who dislikes Labour and can't be arsed to write their own postings so gets ChatGPT write one and posts that?
A human being who endless name-changes to write anti-Labour posts?
A human being who has written an automated system to generate anti-Labour diatribes and post them specifically to MumsNet?
A human being who has been paid to do one of those things above?
A human being whose brain is fried so they have no thoughts except anti-Labour thoughts?

Or what?

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It's interesting that you jumped to frame this as being specific to just one party political perspective. Nothing in my post either said or implied that. As I said, this isn't a new thing!

Bots are non-human. Other ways of targeting websites like MN also exist, yes. Some of it is at the less worrying end, like staff of political parties floating policy ideas on here (I know of one person who used to do this on a regular basis!).

Some of it is deliberate misinformation. I remember seeing a post that was obviously intended to sow discord about the constitutional arrangements of the UK when Boris Johnson was hospitalised. It had a distinctly Russian sounding use of language.

Efacsen · 11/01/2025 09:06

Few days ago saw 2 posters on the same thread espousing the German neo-Nazi AfD

Never seen anything like that before in donkeys years on mumsnet

Seems doubtful that they were 'disillusioned Labour voters'

No reason to think they were 'bots' either just a new variety of poster

EasternStandard · 11/01/2025 09:07

Zonder · 11/01/2025 08:57

A quick Google? Again proving the points made on here. You don't really care and yet you care enough to put some tenuous comment about it on here. You're doing a great job of providing evidence for what the OP said.

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It’s voting intention, there’s a long thread on it covering the poll

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 11/01/2025 09:10

@QuimCarrey I was actually thinking about another thread which was very anti-Labour and I couldn't be arsed to change. Doesn't matter to me if it's anti-Labour - replace by whatever other politIcs you like including pro-Labour. I'd still like to know what is a "bot"?

QuimCarrey · 11/01/2025 09:13

AmaryllisNightAndDay · 11/01/2025 09:10

@QuimCarrey I was actually thinking about another thread which was very anti-Labour and I couldn't be arsed to change. Doesn't matter to me if it's anti-Labour - replace by whatever other politIcs you like including pro-Labour. I'd still like to know what is a "bot"?

https://www.cloudflare.com/learning/bots/what-is-a-bot/