I am a Labour voter, a Labour supporter and I do not regret my vote.

[CurlewKate]

However, I think that Starmer has been incredibly stupid and/or very badly advised over this expenses issue. He has done nothing wrong, but his behaviour is not what he led us to believe he would do, and I am incredibly exasperated and disappointed.

In my opinion, he should admit that he made a massive misjudgement, and agree to take no more freebies from now on.

Apart from anything else anything which allows people to say "They are all as bad as each other" (they aren't) is a distraction from the real issues the country faces. He should be laser focussed on repairing the damage caused by 14 years of Tory misrule. Not scrambling around dealing with peripheral stuff.
Starmer-say sorry. Don't do it again. And get back to work.

I read something today that made me smile:
LABOUR PARTY: We vote them in every 12 years to remind us why we shouldn't vote for them.

I want them to investigate the pricing on birkin bags, as a fan it seems insane to me that I can’t get one for a fiver. This is definitely the purview of government, most definitely, very pressing.

Hahahaha!

I cannot understand why he would let someone else pay for his glasses! Just go to specsavers like a normal member of society

I can't understand why he thinks he's a labour PM. I wish someone would tell me.

Oh stop! His dad worked as a tool maker for most of his life and then set up as a sole trader. Hardly 'owned the company'

He's not an Oxford graduate, he went to Leeds. For all he may have been 'banging on' about his background you still didn't get it all right. Could you possibly be wrong about anything else? 🤔

I cannot put in to words how much I regret your vote

You mean someone gave her this 🤦‍♀️

I am not actually a Labour voter (OP) I just want to create dissatisfaction with the government.

It's fucking annoying. Obviously the Tories were doing this as well but we expect that from them. They were doing a lot worse but they don't pretend to be anything other than morally corrupt.
Its the hypocrisy that makes it jarring.

Labour didn’t win the election, the conservatives threw it away and now we are left with a bunch of clowns running the country who think it’s acceptable to leave some pensioners in the cold this winter….and lock up protesters for months and months while letting even more dangerous criminals out early…..then destabilising the economy with this ridiculous budget announcement, not to mention all the expenses crap and having someone buy your clothes.

It’s outrageous and making our country into even more of a laughing stock. Hope all the Labour voters have a word with themselves after this.

I care less about the Supermarket Sweep trolley dashes that the Labour hierarchy has been enjoying and more about the pack of lies they’re telling about the economy and about their energy ‘policies’.

‘I don’t regret my vote’

You will, Oscar, you will.

@5byfive "Starmer’s dad owned the tool making company. That is the definition of middle class."

No,he didn't.

He did, i’m not saying they were fabulously wealthy but his dad penned an article about how kier had to work in his factory.

https://order-order.com/2024/06/14/starmers-father-admitted-he-was-the-owner-of-toolmaking-factory/

KS is a multi-millionaire, there is no reason he and his wife should not be buying their own work clothes and glasses. Complete hypocrites. I can't understand how this doesn't make even labour supporters cringe.
Also, a lot of these tickets are for 4 or more people. What type of jobs gives you perks like these for your family and mates. Totally taking advantage. The issue is these donors will be wanting favours back at some point. And btw if he wanted to he could also easily afford to buy box tickets. It's a matter of choice.

@ANON20241 ". I can't understand how this doesn't make even labour supporters cringe. "

That's rather the point of the thread. Many Labour supporters are pissed off about it. That doesn't mean we no longer support Labour and or don't think they are ultimately the way forward for the country.

Actually yes I am. His dad owned the factory. He was in a music conservatorire. He went to grammar school. None of those things scream working class.

Honestly, a government that shows this little emotional intelligence this early on does not bode well.

I fear that they won't actually fix anything in this country because they'll make deeply unpopular decisions and be voted out at the next election.

Four years is a short time to really implement and embed change. They won't be able to achieve anything meaningful without the support of the electorate over at least 2 or 3 terms, rendering these short term painful budgets meaningless and deeply unpopular.

I honestly thought they had more political sense and a better plan to win over the country and start off on a positive footing when they got into power.

Doom, gloom and corruption is very difficult to come back from.

I think Starmer's idea was to get the "bad stuff" over first so that in five years come election we'll have forgotten. I wonder if Reeves is busy rewriting budget after recent bad publicity or will stick to her guns?

For clarity-Starmer's father was a sole trader. There is (apparently-I haven't personally checked) no trace of any company in his name at companies house. He had a workshop rather than a factory.

And he went to Oxford as a postgraduate. His first degree was from Leeds.

TBF, attending a grammar school is no more middle class than attending a comprehensive school.

@twistyizzy ". His dad owned the factory. He was in a music conservatorire. He went to grammar school. None of those things scream working class."

His dad owned the workshop. As a sole trader.And saying that working class people can't be musical is a little shocking, to be honest.

It doesn't actually matter what his background was or where he went to school. What matters right now is the fact they are cocking it up and are on track to be another deeply unpopular government.