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Anyone watching Kamala Harris speaking in Philadelphia

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MrsSkylerWhite · 06/08/2024 23:44

She’s impressive! I’ve never heard such a rapturous reception for a Democrat candidate. I love that her audience is taking the chant of USA back from Trump. Nominee VP Walz looked like he was close to tears at their reception.

Hoping against hope that they see the vile specimen that is Trump off in November.

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Wabash6503 · 25/08/2024 08:54

mollyfolk · 24/08/2024 10:30

As far as labeling abortion in the same breath as contraception, please don't devalue those lives lost by comparing them to a condom or IUD. Let action be what it was actually meant for, medical necessity... And let sexual morality have it's place. Sex isn't that important. It just isn't. Life is.

I am not comparing pregnancies to condoms. I’m saying if you care about the unborn - why don’t you advocate for more access to contraceptives? This is a proven way to reduce abortion rates. Restrictions on abortions have minimal impact on the abortion rate.

You describe abortion with the same language as condoms and IUDs. Clearly that's how you look at it. Which is really just regurgitating what politicians say on TV.

Wabash6503 · 25/08/2024 09:06

knitnerd90 · 24/08/2024 07:10

I work in maternal and child health. Your argument is a strawman. I don't argue in favor of abortions. I argue in favor of giving women a choice. The evidence is clear: not giving women the choice can kill them. If you want fewer abortions go advocate for both contraception (to prevent unplanned pregnancy) and welfare benefits including maternity leave, childcare, and better healthcare as well as cash benefits, so women can afford to raise children if it does happen. Because the people who argue against abortion sure don't care about helping the babies once they are born, except when they can feel good through giving charity.

hobby lobby used IUDs (and false science) in its Supreme Court case.

Only 1.14% of abortions are medically necessary. You should also know that you are in favor of of a minority population control policy with roots in Hitler's ideology. If you didn't think so... Look up Margaret Sanger. Not sure that's the company you want to be in.

Wabash6503 · 25/08/2024 09:37

Lunatuna1234 · 24/08/2024 10:26

Hi there

Back to Trump for a minute....

How in any reality is Trump acceptable as a president ?

  1. He is a convicted felon
  2. He incited riots when he didnt like the result of the last election.He does not respect democracy
  3. He is making dangerous assertions towards removing the right to vote.
  4. He has recently been given immunity in court from actions as a president.
  5. He is a wannabe autocrat/ dictator and openly admires Putin and other dictators
  6. He has MASSIVE personality issues including a huge need for approval and admiration and possibly undiagnosed personality disorders such as narcissism.
  7. He has a VP who is far right leaning and his atritute towards women in particular suffering domestic violence is victim blaming and appaling.
  8. Dont think he believes in scientifically proven climate change

Any that is only a few of the issues...

So my question is what are the good points of having such a dangerous man in power? What has he done that is good for America and what will he do that is good for the next 4 years if elected.

This is a genuine question as I have been horrified by Bidens hasty removal of troups out of Afghanistan and its aftermath and by Bidens appeasement of Israel given Israels brutality in Gazs.

  1. Have you heard of lawfare yet?
  2. He literally called for peaceful protests.
  3. This is not true.
  4. That ruling from the Supreme Court applies to all presidents.
  5. See #3.
  6. He absolutely does... And he is disloyal, and a populist. Which is why I'm not voting for him.
  7. See #5.
  8. The climate has been changing since the earth was created. Why would it stop now?

What he's done for the good of America. Best economy we'd ever had. Safest border we'd ever had. Funded the COVID vaccine research for pharmaceutical companies. Lowered energy costs.

Next 4 years... Hopefully he fixes his character problems and brings back some of the policies he was known for.

Do you really think Israel is wrong after what Hamas did to them? Hamas isn't just a terrorist organization. It is the political party in control of Gaza. Over 80% of Gaza supports not just Hamas, but supported the slaughter and rape of Israelis in October of last year. Israel's war against Hamas is just.

It's not brutality btw... It's the cowardice of the Hamas military elements hiding within the Gaza civilian population. It's the same thing terrorists did in Iraq and Afghanistan. It was clearly there as well

What is your fascination with politics in America btw? You know how often Americans talk about what we want to happen in the UK politically? Never. You're our ally. You're a democracy. We see the headlines, take note of your choices and then go on with our day, glad your nation is a friend of ours. And then poke a little fun at you on the 4th of July.

But back to your question. I think the media in the UK is highly manipulated against Trump. So are several news sources here in the US. But that doesn't make them true. While I'm not voting for Trump, I think his appeal is that he's not a polished politician that's going to BS everyone and people's lives actually were better four years ago. Plus the alternative is an ultra liberal candidate who has been apart of an administration that has created policy based on the approval of 20-30% of the country, rather than the majority of us, and those policies have made life a lot harder in many different ways across the country. A lot of people are not happy about that, and while I prefer principled leaders rather than populist... At least with Trump, he's not going to ignore the will of the vast majority of Americans for a small minority. And he's not going to do anything intentionally to harm the people.

knitnerd90 · 25/08/2024 10:23

Wabash6503 · 25/08/2024 09:06

Only 1.14% of abortions are medically necessary. You should also know that you are in favor of of a minority population control policy with roots in Hitler's ideology. If you didn't think so... Look up Margaret Sanger. Not sure that's the company you want to be in.

Don't teach your grandma to suck eggs. You're regurgitating anti choice propaganda. One, the issues with women dying through lack of access aren't simply because of medically necessary abortion. Two, just because eugenicists were in favor of abortion doesn't make it bad. There's a reason those arguments never get traction.

Lunatuna1234 · 25/08/2024 12:10

Hi there
I am afraid that everything I said is true and and just because you happen to say its not true doesnt magically make it not true I am afraid. You asked why I am so interested in what is going on in American politics and that is because I am interested in the world around me and in particular when the foreign policy of one country can impact severely on other countries and the stability of the world.
But it is sad to me that you are not fully aware of facts about the potential future president of your country, it really is or a level of denial about him I dont know. Not just you but a lot of Americans, just saying its not true doesnt cut it. And I dont have the time or energy to get you the information that you should already have.
Look maybe hes all smoke and mirrors I dont know and maybe his brilliant policies will offset his defeciencies.
In terms of Gaza, the life of a Gaza child is of equal value to the life of a child from Israel
Finally , where is the evidence that he follows the will of the vast majority of Americans, think its more or less 50/ 50 at moment in the polls.
Im not English, I am Irish

Wabash6503 · 26/08/2024 00:32

Lunatuna1234 · 25/08/2024 12:10

Hi there
I am afraid that everything I said is true and and just because you happen to say its not true doesnt magically make it not true I am afraid. You asked why I am so interested in what is going on in American politics and that is because I am interested in the world around me and in particular when the foreign policy of one country can impact severely on other countries and the stability of the world.
But it is sad to me that you are not fully aware of facts about the potential future president of your country, it really is or a level of denial about him I dont know. Not just you but a lot of Americans, just saying its not true doesnt cut it. And I dont have the time or energy to get you the information that you should already have.
Look maybe hes all smoke and mirrors I dont know and maybe his brilliant policies will offset his defeciencies.
In terms of Gaza, the life of a Gaza child is of equal value to the life of a child from Israel
Finally , where is the evidence that he follows the will of the vast majority of Americans, think its more or less 50/ 50 at moment in the polls.
Im not English, I am Irish

Well, I live here and know what's happening. I see the lies of progressive media every day... And the funny thing is, there is no need to make stuff up. Trump has deep character flaws that should prevent him from holding the presidency again. But the far left politicians here have really hurt this country through inflation, COVID lockdowns, anti free speech, anti democratic actions. And all that is personified in Harris, who is responsible among with Biden for the difficulties of the last four years and wasn't even chosen in our primary elections. Go read up about how Putin keeps winning elections in Russia, the Democratic party is doing the same things here in the US.

I know the facts of my own country better a foreigner. I live here. I experience it first hand. All the information you have is given to you by the biased media. Read all sides. Understand when politicians and because lie and what those lies look like. Be independent. Question the so called facts that you're hearing. And also look at the results of the policies that have been implemented.

knitnerd90 · 26/08/2024 03:48

Mmm, I live in the USA, so I know it also. And I can't take anyone seriously when they talk about "biased media" and repeat Fox News talking points verbatim.

dottiehens · 26/08/2024 07:27

knitnerd90 · 26/08/2024 03:48

Mmm, I live in the USA, so I know it also. And I can't take anyone seriously when they talk about "biased media" and repeat Fox News talking points verbatim.

You can’t seriously think that the mainstream media in the US is anything but biased. There is not such a thing as impartial in CNN. It is just ridiculous. You are the typical person who shout Fox News when given factual info. About time people start calling out the bullies gaslighting.

Summernightsinthe21stcentury · 26/08/2024 07:59

Trump has been accused of rape, found guilty of falsifying business records and there are still more trials to come. He is 78, not much younger than Biden.
How can anybody vote for a convicted felon?
I am pleased to see Kamala doing well in the polls, but for some reason unknown to me, it is going to be a tight race.

Lunatuna1234 · 26/08/2024 08:17

Incredibly sad and extremely dangerous if reputable news agencies regarded as biased and not to be trusted?? Therin lies chaos

Who to believe then.... oh I know, a sexist, racist meglomanic convict who is quoted as saying people will not have to vote after this election!The man is quoted as saying he wants to get rid of democracy!!!!.

The democrats in the US are far right to the liberals in the EU and so are anything but far left.

knitnerd90 · 26/08/2024 11:53

dottiehens · 26/08/2024 07:27

You can’t seriously think that the mainstream media in the US is anything but biased. There is not such a thing as impartial in CNN. It is just ridiculous. You are the typical person who shout Fox News when given factual info. About time people start calling out the bullies gaslighting.

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I don't watch CNN. or MSNBC. Actually the NYT and WaPo have been quite crap lately but they're still better. I also read The Economist and the Guardian. None of these sources have had to admit in a lawsuit that they are entertainment rather than news. Fox isn't even news most of the time anymore. It's just opinion hosts shouting.

Go find the media bias chart. You'll find that experts rate the much derided MSM to be more impartial than any Murdoch outlet (including the WSJ).

The Democrats are absolutely not right wing by European standards. That's a tired and provably false talking point. They're not the AfD or even the Tories. in fact they're to the left of many Europeans on issues like immigration and diversity, and the Roe standard for abortion of unlimited to 24 weeks is more liberal than much of Europe (except Britain minus NI). Even on healthcare the divide isn't "provide it or not," it's "Medicare for all" (single payer) versus mixed system, which several European countries have. They all want everyone to have healthcare; the divide is only over how.

They're just fighting for things that should have passed in the US but haven't because it's so hard to pass legislation here and the Republicans have become a right wing party.

Wabash6503 · 26/08/2024 20:44

knitnerd90 · 25/08/2024 10:23

Don't teach your grandma to suck eggs. You're regurgitating anti choice propaganda. One, the issues with women dying through lack of access aren't simply because of medically necessary abortion. Two, just because eugenicists were in favor of abortion doesn't make it bad. There's a reason those arguments never get traction.

"just because eugenicists were (Hitler was) in favor of abortion doesn't make it bad"

My recommendation... Don't keep telling yourself that.

Wabash6503 · 26/08/2024 20:53

knitnerd90 · 26/08/2024 03:48

Mmm, I live in the USA, so I know it also. And I can't take anyone seriously when they talk about "biased media" and repeat Fox News talking points verbatim.

Fox news said they aren't voting for Trump? That's news to me.

I know you're trying to pigeon-hole me as a Trumper... But there's a problem with that. I criticize him too and won't vote for him.

The difference between us though is that I only use the truth to criticize. I didn't try to add to it, to make it seem worse. You should try it sometime... Being completely truthful.

knitnerd90 · 26/08/2024 21:08

My recommendation is not to lecture a Jewish woman about Hitler and eugenics.

Wabash6503 · 27/08/2024 06:13

knitnerd90 · 26/08/2024 21:08

My recommendation is not to lecture a Jewish woman about Hitler and eugenics.

You actually typed that lie out and shared it? I quit. You win. Most Internet thing to do ever! 🤣

Wabash6503 · 27/08/2024 06:22

knitnerd90 · 25/08/2024 10:23

Don't teach your grandma to suck eggs. You're regurgitating anti choice propaganda. One, the issues with women dying through lack of access aren't simply because of medically necessary abortion. Two, just because eugenicists were in favor of abortion doesn't make it bad. There's a reason those arguments never get traction.

Actually I'm not. I looked up the stats on my own because there want much reporting about it out there. It says a lot when someone can't refute the evidence and instead chooses personal attacks, which is all I've seen in here... Though I'm really just trying to engage people at they can see how it of control the abortion industry has become. So, you tell me... When is enough, enough when it comes to abortion?

MsAmerica · 29/08/2024 03:16

Wabash6503 · 23/08/2024 06:04

First, Biden doesn't even control his teleprompter, so it's ridiculous at face value to say other people aren't using/controlling him.

Second, Trump isn't a conservative. He's a populist. His mind changes with the wind... Except for what's best for American business. To my frustration this is true, as an actual conservative.

Third, Trump (who I'm not a fan of if you can't tell) didn't take a salary and stands to lose $500M for having been president. So to say he's in it for the money is uninformed.

Fourth, he hasn't trashed the Constitution. He worked within what was allowable in the Constitution. Trashing it is actually what Biden's administration has done with refusing to enforce laws to the detriment of the nation.

What is true of Trump is that he doesn't have the temperament to be a good president. He doesn't have the morals to be a good president. And he isn't loyal to anyone but himself. This are valid criticisms of him based on his words and actions. Stick with what's true about him. There's no need to regurgitate media talking points.

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First, @Wabash6503, teleprompters are, as I understand it, loaded with a speech written by writers at the president's request and with his input. (Some presidents do much of the writing themselves.) So for you to say it's "controlled" by others seems silly, unless you're thinking of the time that the wrong speech was loaded for Clinton, and he was so great that the public didn't even know.

Second, I don't think I said Trump was a conservative, did I? At least, I'm not seeing that.

Third, Trump's shrugging off the salary was a performative PR gesture. He knew he's made far more, legally or illegally, via the presidency.

Fourth, you apparently aren't aware of both what Trump has said about trashing the Constitution (including doing away with elections) and what he privately tried to do when in office. I'm not aware of any "trashing" by Biden, but feel free to list any specifics. It seems silly to complain about Biden not enforcing a law - especially as he's not in charge of enforcement - in contrast to Trump who actively breaks laws.

Wabash6503 · 29/08/2024 05:37

MsAmerica · 29/08/2024 03:16

First, @Wabash6503, teleprompters are, as I understand it, loaded with a speech written by writers at the president's request and with his input. (Some presidents do much of the writing themselves.) So for you to say it's "controlled" by others seems silly, unless you're thinking of the time that the wrong speech was loaded for Clinton, and he was so great that the public didn't even know.

Second, I don't think I said Trump was a conservative, did I? At least, I'm not seeing that.

Third, Trump's shrugging off the salary was a performative PR gesture. He knew he's made far more, legally or illegally, via the presidency.

Fourth, you apparently aren't aware of both what Trump has said about trashing the Constitution (including doing away with elections) and what he privately tried to do when in office. I'm not aware of any "trashing" by Biden, but feel free to list any specifics. It seems silly to complain about Biden not enforcing a law - especially as he's not in charge of enforcement - in contrast to Trump who actively breaks laws.

First, how is anyone still pretending Biden is in control? Didn't you watch what happened during the debate? Even CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS... Which are all political media for the left... Have said he is in decline. They have also reported on the fact that the white house staff and his closest advisors have been covering for him. That is political speak, for they are controlling him. Dude can't even walk across the White House lawn without help! Holy smokes this is a bad take.

Second, you said Trump was controlled by the right wing. Which he's not, because he keeps coming up with liberal policy ideas. Again, just focus on this dude's lack of character and morals... Because it's true and it's also enough for people to decide he shouldn't be President again.

Third, did you know that Bill Clinton and Trump are the only two presidents in the modern era who's net worth has dropped after they left office?

Fourth, did you also know that the president is the head of the executive branch of government, that includes nearly all federal law enforcement agencies... Including DHS, the agency that implemented his policies which created record numbers of illegal migrants, fentanyl smuggling, and human trafficking?

Sorry, I'm being a smart ass. I know you know these things. But yet, you make all these comments like none of this happened. So, really it should be me asking you, why aren't you being truthful?

GreekDogRescue · 30/08/2024 17:44

Ugh no thanks. I’m a RKjr supporter 🚀

MsAmerica · 08/09/2024 04:07

Wabash6503 · 29/08/2024 05:37

First, how is anyone still pretending Biden is in control? Didn't you watch what happened during the debate? Even CNN, MSNBC, ABC, and CBS... Which are all political media for the left... Have said he is in decline. They have also reported on the fact that the white house staff and his closest advisors have been covering for him. That is political speak, for they are controlling him. Dude can't even walk across the White House lawn without help! Holy smokes this is a bad take.

Second, you said Trump was controlled by the right wing. Which he's not, because he keeps coming up with liberal policy ideas. Again, just focus on this dude's lack of character and morals... Because it's true and it's also enough for people to decide he shouldn't be President again.

Third, did you know that Bill Clinton and Trump are the only two presidents in the modern era who's net worth has dropped after they left office?

Fourth, did you also know that the president is the head of the executive branch of government, that includes nearly all federal law enforcement agencies... Including DHS, the agency that implemented his policies which created record numbers of illegal migrants, fentanyl smuggling, and human trafficking?

Sorry, I'm being a smart ass. I know you know these things. But yet, you make all these comments like none of this happened. So, really it should be me asking you, why aren't you being truthful?

First, @Wabash6503, Biden is indeed in "control" in terms of what happens - what decisions are made, what paths are taken. That doesn't mean that he doesn't stumble (especially considering his history as a stutterer) or mixes up a name (as all people do, and even more so with age). In fact, it was later revealed that he had done difficult and delicate work in diplomatic persuasion internationally. His verbal fumbles have nothing to do with control. That idea is as silly as if someone had wanted to remove President Bush from office when he vomited at a Chinese banquet, claiming he wasn't in "control."

Second, Trump is "controlled" by the right wing, as much as anyone can control Trump. He is a man who has never held a job in the conventional sense, never been answerable to a boss, and has no guiding principles and certainly no experience in politics/policy. But he's funded by the right wing, and they have more input than anyone. He may occasionally propose something startling, but it's usually because he's trying to placate some part of his base. The right wing pounced on him early on (2015?) and hand-fed him material and ideas. And picked the Supreme Court justices for him, of course. (Obama, on the other hand, was himself a Constitutional scholar, and probably already had some ideas of his own on that score.)

Third, I didn't know that about Clinton and Obama's net worth dropping. Are you sure they're the only ones? I thought I read that Carter's finances were in ruins because he handed over his business to others while he was in office, and they ran it into the ground.

Fourth, I guess I did know that about the executive branch, but I tend to forget it, partly because some of that seems mis-allocated. Seems like some of it should be part of the judicial branch.

I don't think you're being a smart ass at all - I consider this just a friendly argument - except for your implication that I'm lying.

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