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What did the Conservatives ever do for us ? AKA lets apportion blame where it is due [smile]

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Dymaxion · 11/07/2024 20:41

After 14 long years of Conservative government, we now have another Party at the helm. I can't help feeling that a lot of what has occurred under the Conservatives will be quickly blamed on the Labour party, who have only been in power for a week, so thought it might be wise to start a thread summarising the Conservatives legacy ?

To start,

  1. Brexit is a fairly obvious one, the way in which this was handled by senior Conservative's was absolutely shocking.
  2. Liz Truss's mini budget, what was your interest rate pre September 2022 and what is it now ?
  3. The NHS, and social care in crisis.
  4. Prison and court systems/probabtion in absolute tatters and fit to burst.

Feel free to add your own Smile

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Marchitectmummy · 01/08/2024 23:39

Zonder · 01/08/2024 23:32

I won't be reading through them. Usually if I put an argument up I can link to something that supports it, not some vague government website where I would have to spend ages trying to find something that might back you up. If you want people to believe you the onus is on you.

So I don't for now.

Gosh - do you understand what gov.uk is? It's the place where the Governement whichever is in power, publishes their documents. If you can't be bothered skip to the draft Bill - its even listed on there as the draft Bill. I thought you had genuine nterest in learning about the history of the move towards public ownership of the railways. But actually I don't think you understand how the govenrment works and want to believe a rag. Everything on that link chronologically leads to the Great British railway.

Honestly learn how politics work, its interesting.

Zonder · 01/08/2024 23:45

Marchitectmummy · 01/08/2024 23:39

Gosh - do you understand what gov.uk is? It's the place where the Governement whichever is in power, publishes their documents. If you can't be bothered skip to the draft Bill - its even listed on there as the draft Bill. I thought you had genuine nterest in learning about the history of the move towards public ownership of the railways. But actually I don't think you understand how the govenrment works and want to believe a rag. Everything on that link chronologically leads to the Great British railway.

Honestly learn how politics work, its interesting.

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Don't be so patronising. Of course I do. But it's like saying give me evidence of murder in a book and you saying here's the entire book, go read it.

Honestly learn how discussion works, it's interesting.

Marchitectmummy · 01/08/2024 23:52

Zonder · 01/08/2024 23:45

Don't be so patronising. Of course I do. But it's like saying give me evidence of murder in a book and you saying here's the entire book, go read it.

Honestly learn how discussion works, it's interesting.

OK sure, your response shows you don't understand.

I'm not interested in continuing this but the link is thee for anyone with a genuine interest.

Zonder · 02/08/2024 07:35

Marchitectmummy · 01/08/2024 23:52

OK sure, your response shows you don't understand.

I'm not interested in continuing this but the link is thee for anyone with a genuine interest.

If you had even bothered to select one relevant paper I would have read it. You couldn't be bothered to do any more than give a general link. It's clearly not important to you and actually it's irrelevant anyway since the thread is asking what did the Tories do. They clearly didn't nationalise the trains so it's not a valid response.

HannibalHeyes · 02/08/2024 21:59

Probably related to Charlie on the Starmer thread. Links to a load of irrelevant nonsense and expects you to do their work for them...

upinaballoon · 02/08/2024 22:07

The Tories didn't re-nationalise the railways but my understanding was that if a company was failing they were going to take that part into a sort of nationalised system.
Some people don't have open minds. They get set in one way forever for whatever reason. Some people like coming on these threads just to be nasty about one side or the other.

Sometimes political parties of different persuasions completely agree with one another. It has been known for one party to make a decision which wasn't over-popular and for the other party to be quietly pleased that a bit of difficult work had already been done for them when they followed on in government.

upinaballoon · 02/08/2024 22:09

I don't think the government website is irrelevant nonsense.

HannibalHeyes · 02/08/2024 22:42

But why didn't they just link to the appropriate paper, rather than to the whole website?

It's nonsense to obfuscate...

What did the Conservatives ever do for us ? AKA lets apportion blame where it is due [smile]
Zonder · 03/08/2024 09:21

My question exactly @HannibalHeyes

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