What did the Conservatives ever do for us ? AKA lets apportion blame where it is due [smile]

[Dymaxion]

After 14 long years of Conservative government, we now have another Party at the helm. I can't help feeling that a lot of what has occurred under the Conservatives will be quickly blamed on the Labour party, who have only been in power for a week, so thought it might be wise to start a thread summarising the Conservatives legacy ?

To start,

1. Brexit is a fairly obvious one, the way in which this was handled by senior Conservative's was absolutely shocking.
2. Liz Truss's mini budget, what was your interest rate pre September 2022 and what is it now ?
3. The NHS, and social care in crisis.
4. Prison and court systems/probabtion in absolute tatters and fit to burst.

Feel free to add your own

Time for this again.

What’s your solution?

He is picking the pieces up from 14 years of Tory government. It’s under their watch the crisis came about.

That’s hilarious. I’m remembering Boris boasting about shaking hands in a hospital where there were covid positive patients.

I meant as PM. Don’t get me wrong I’m glad he’s gone but compared to what came before he was the best of a bad bunch.

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This is a brilliant explanation where the Covid money including the furlough scheme came from and where did they go.

Do you know where I could find him on Youtube doing that? I don't actually remember him doing that precise thing, but I do remember that there was a time early on when even the WHO was saying masks weren't necessary but our government was telling us to wash our hands, very carefully. The thought was that the C might be spread by hands on trolleys et cetera, so we had to put the gel on our hands and the trolley handles and we had those squirty machines at the doors of the shops. M and S anti-bacterial hand slurp smelled nicer than some others! I remember when we were being told to wash our hands in all directions, not unlike surgeons do, and I recall Mr. Gove on a news programme telling us what the recommendation was at the time, wash for as long as singing 'Happy Birthday' through twice. Those of us with any sense were listening to the recommendations. At the time it wasn't really known if it was spread in the air. Later, the WHO decided masks were good. It was a damn nuisance to wear the masks with spectacles, but I did it.

Same sex marriage only became law because of a large number of MPs from other parties supporting it.

Why, why, why did they do fuck all about the prison situation?

Reprehensible.

Johnson definitely said he’d shaken hands with people when it wasn’t known how many deaths of the elderly it would cause. I washed my hands more but I didn’t think it would bother me that much if I caught it, I regarded it like flu and I have had worse flu than covid. I don’t know anyone that died of Covid or has long Covid either but obviously they exist!

Furlough was a lifesaver, £400 towards my all electric bill of my tiny but ancient house actually helped a lot and £150 refund of my council tax bill was great. I do remember Starmer largely backing whatever the Govt said at the time in solidarity and it was so mature to just back it in a weird time. Not just bitch.

Gay marriage.

Maybe Labour can commit to building the prisons the Conservative Govt didn’t build and then when they’re up and running, stop the 40% of sentence policy. It would benchmark where they have achieved what the Tories couldn’t.

I’m looking forward to their fixing everything. They do have a cabinet with logic applied, I’m glad to see they’re pressing ahead with banning puberty blockers for children and Starmer did the diplomatic thing to say Biden wasn’t demented (or words to that effect). Nothing’s gone wrong in week 1!

He said it himself. It was a kind of ‘meh, I’m not scared’ kind of thing.

I assumed as much but didn’t know.

Everything. They fucked it all. They did it on purpose. They think they did the right thing. They don't regret it. They don't want it fixed. Not if it means giving Labour credit for being better in government.

Don't forget you cannot say what they did- this is a pointless "heeeey let's bash they Tory's and cream over Labour Party" thread. Cannot WAIT to see how awesome these changes are that everyone thinks labour are gonna being in are haha

Better NHS, education,military etc etc. yesss once they start shitting money

Better NHS, education,military etc

Are you fucking serious?!

https://news.sky.com/video/coronavirus-i-shook-hands-with-everybody-11948548

Not YouTube but still a video.

I hate the Tories as much as the next sane person but they did bring in Gay marriage and should be congratulated for it.
The vaccine was because we have one of the best research centres in the world unfortunately this is going to can now deplete severely because of leaving the EU.

Sadly your last point is right. The decrease in funding for research here now we aren't in the EU means we are unlikely to continue being so good at research.

Poster up thread said it was the large number of politicians from all parties that it got through. I’m happy to give credit where it’s due but we’re the Tories really responsible? 100% or did they finish the job? Who were the key people?

Thank you.

I think it's very hard to know just how a law comes about. I worked for both main parties and they don't always have hugely different policies. An idea might start on the back of someone's fag packet or from a few letters to an MP, who knows. Did the idea of Serps start with the PM of the day or Barbara Castle or the 18th secretary down?
Does anyone know exactly where the Rwanda idea started, not carried on or repeated over and over ad nauseam, but Started?
There are times when one party does something and another party might change it a bit but on the whole hang on to it, because it wasn't a bad idea.
Edit to say I don't mean hang on to Rwanda, but things like Serps, Attendance Allowance, Child Benefit, compulsory crash helmets, compulsory seat belts et cetera.

We all know the Tories failed and have been kicked out. It’s like being inside an Islington Labour branch meeting on here.

I wouldn't know about that @FinalCeleryScheme , I get a bit lost south of Sheffield, couldn't place the home counties on the map or tell you whereabouts in London Islington actually is, even though I have a decent A level in Geography

Ask me about cash crops in Sierra Leone circa 1985 though and I will smash it

I pity the Tories now. They can't even be a credible opposition due to their complete failure on all fronts.

Tom Tugendhat on Twitter was getting absolutely owned the other day for suggesting there's something wrong with releasing prisoners early.

As if this prison overcrowding crisis suddenly emerged the day Keir Starmer took over over and has not been building for 30 years under six Tory Prime Ministers and two Labour ones.

Doesn’t apply to perpetrators of acts of violence.

Gay marriage was a Lib Dem thing started by Lynne Featherstone and put into law under the Cameron Clegg coalition but somehow Cameron and the Tories get all the credit despite almost half of Tory MPs voting against it