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The UK is about to enter a nightmare much darker than anyone yet realises

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EdwinH · 04/07/2024 09:40

Allister Heath has written an article in the Telegraph couched in dire, apocalyptic language. It's all about what would happen if the LibDems managed to overtake the Tories and form the Opposition instead.

(That's something the polls suggest is unlikely but still possible. They're much, much closer than at any previous election. So it's not just fantasy.)

The thing is, depending on your political stance, what he is describing could be considered brilliant rather than a horror story.

Judge for yourself. See what you think...

The link below goes to the archived version of the article, which is not paywalled.
archive.ph/2024.07.03-224711/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/03/uk-to-enter-nightmare-much-darker-than-anyone-realises/#selection-2803.4-2803.77

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verdantverdure · 04/07/2024 18:57

The likely scale of the defeat will be crushing for remaining Tory MPs. Former top ministers will become obscure non-entities overnight. They will lose their ministerial cars and special advisers, and many will become the butt of jokes. Nobody will care what they say or do. Few will even return their calls.

He's a comedy sketch writer parodying the pearl clutchers?

They will lose their ministerial cars!!!!Grin

verdantverdure · 04/07/2024 18:59

The Tory party will tear itself apart, perhaps even finally realising that it can no longer be the home of both Left-wing, high-tax, woke Remainers and Right-wing, low-tax, anti-woke Brexiteers.

Did any one know that there were ahem "left wing woke Remainers" in the Tory party?!!!

Where? Who? Grin

verdantverdure · 04/07/2024 19:03

I really enjoyed this @EdwinH thank you. Hilarious! Grin

AmelieTaylor · 04/07/2024 19:04

LikeWhoUsesTypewritersAnyway · 04/07/2024 10:34

Nah, the darkest times are behind us. Good times lie ahead. Smile

🙇🏻‍♀️🙇🏻‍♀️

Seeet Summer Child

Do get back to us re that, in a year.

verdantverdure · 04/07/2024 19:15

Doje · 04/07/2024 14:19

The Alistair Heath who thought the mini-budget was a good idea? Yeah... Not gonna listen to him.

"In September 2022, Heath welcomed the mini-budget submitted by the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, Kwasi Kwarteng, with unbridled enthusiasm.

Heath wrote: "This was the best Budget I have ever heard a British Chancellor deliver, by a massive margin". (From Wikipedia).

Oh he's a loon?
^
One of those reliably wrong about absolutely everything sorts?^

Darlingtonvoter · 04/07/2024 19:17

It's ridiculously over the top hubris but there is a kernel of truth that we do need a strong opposition and if the Liberal Democrats and Conservatives are fighting to gain the support of the minor parties to become the official opposition that is a problem. As is the official opposition being a similar flavour to the government because that's not an opposition. The Lib Dems might decide to move further right or further left to create blue water between them and Labour. Not sure which is more likely.

Life is not going to suddenly get better, the international situation is dire and we're still suffering the long term effects of Brexit, Covid and the economic crisis. Neither of the main parties have been honest about how hard things will be going forward. In '97 New Labour enacted lots of feel good policies very early on, I can't see that happening this time.

Chartreux · 04/07/2024 19:22

It would be incredibly difficult to match the nightmare of the last 8 years

verdantverdure · 04/07/2024 19:23

The Lib Dems would be a stronger Opposition in every way .

If the Tories were the Opposition all Keir Starmer needs to say at PMQs is

"Pipe down I'm fixing YOUR mess."

TheCatRenamed · 04/07/2024 19:26

Lol.

The two best governments I've lived under - ones that delivered steady economic growth, stable public finances and sufficiently-funded public services that give a helping hand when needed: Blair's government in the UK, and Helen Clark's government in NZ. Both Labour.

The one single reason for voting Tory is a booming economy generating wealth for all, and the Tories have absolutely failed to provide that single advantage.

verdantverdure · 04/07/2024 19:29

All the governments I've lived under have been Tory except Blair/Brown and yeah, that was the good one.

leeverarch · 04/07/2024 19:30

"Every conservative nightmare will come true" the article says.

Oh dear.
How sad.
Never mind.

newnamethanks · 04/07/2024 19:32

Hoping 🤞

verdantverdure · 04/07/2024 19:32

newnamethanks · 04/07/2024 19:32

Hoping 🤞

Same.

A Lib Dem opposition is my big wish

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