The UK is about to enter a nightmare much darker than anyone yet realises

[EdwinH]

Allister Heath has written an article in the Telegraph couched in dire, apocalyptic language. It's all about what would happen if the LibDems managed to overtake the Tories and form the Opposition instead.

(That's something the polls suggest is unlikely but still possible. They're much, much closer than at any previous election. So it's not just fantasy.)

The thing is, depending on your political stance, what he is describing could be considered brilliant rather than a horror story.

Judge for yourself. See what you think...

The link below goes to the archived version of the article, which is not paywalled.
archive.ph/2024.07.03-224711/www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2024/07/03/uk-to-enter-nightmare-much-darker-than-anyone-realises/#selection-2803.4-2803.77

the article is bonkers, but once again demonstrates why we need to introduce some form of PR.

The UK is about to enter a nightmare much darker than anyone yet realises.
It ain't exactly heavenly here at the moment.

We're replacing a socially and fiscally conservative government with a socially liberal and fiscally conservative one. All that's going to change is the speed at which we travel towards ruin.

Yep!

As opposed to the cheese, rainbows, and lollipops state of things at the moment?? 😂

Poor old Torygraph staffers. Is it too much to hope for minimum 50% redundancies after tonight?

I'm confused.
If the Tory Party didn't wish to be in this situation, why have they behaved like a bunch of corrupt, incompetent arseholes over the last 5 years or so?

British politics is about to be turned into an infernal, soul-destroying hellscape worthy of the sickest of Hollywood minds.

What a load of excitable balls.

Thanks for giving me a much needed laugh, OP! 😂

'Left-wing stormtroopers' - please tell me who these 'left-wingers' are in mainstream politics?

'They will lose their ministerial cars and special advisers, and many will become the butt of jokes. Nobody will care what they say or do. Few will even return their calls.' - excuse me while I get out my tiny violin

' There is already talk of Starmer appointing Harriet Harman to the crucial role of chair of the Equality and Human Rights Commission, replacing.' - thank God for that

'It would seek to leverage the Equality Act to conscript every company in the fight against “social inequality” via “positive discrimination”.' - heaven forfend! Also the 'woke' aren't actually into positive discrimination, but you don't care because it's the only thing you can pretend is a real-life problem for you as a rich, white man.

'would gradually further increase legal immigration,' - well, until more people can afford to have children we really need immigration if you want your arse wiped when your kids put you in a home.

Brilliant. 😂

Yawn. Another day another Tory shill. Worse scaremongering than the Daily Mail. Total and utter rubbish.

The Telegraph and Mail have been running scare stories for a month. You’d probably get a different perspective if you read the Guardian.

This is the Allister Heath who said that Liz Truss's budget was the best he'd ever heard by a large margin.
Man's a clown.

Is anyone else mildly aroused by the thought of Keir in a stormtrooper outfit?

Come back Rishi, all is forgiven!

You say that HauntedBungalow but I understand the best place for a similar vision is at a gathering of Young Conservatives, as many accountnover the years will testify.

They weren't ' fiscally conservative' when they were crashing the economy and dropping our financial rating from AAA to AA and increasing the interest rates on our massive borrowing or handing out tons of cash to their mates to provide unusable PPE or allowed industrial scale covid fraud or allowing their latest sidepiece to spend ££££ on gold wallpaper or had the highest taxes in 80 years, money that has seemingly disappeared, as it hasn't been spent on public services.

Exactly. They own whatever shitshow they, enabled by the Telegraph, have delivered onnus over the past 14 years. The article is nothing to do with the government ( they've given up on that) it's about the Tory Party thinking it has a divine right to exist. Which it doesn't.

You love it

On one level, if this had been the situation at any of the previous elections I would be sitting in a happy dream, my-kind-of-people would be chatting about things with nearly-my-kind-of-people. The problem now is that we are facing ww3 and I really don't think labour or libdem have any more of a clue about what is really happening or what is really at stake than the tories do.

Actually even back then I'd have been realistic, that what with civil servants and LA practice and the public/private total lack of moral or commercial understanding and a general lack of competence all round it might not be all heavenly. We need a shake up of how governance is done, really. We need some sort of competence and expertise requirement for ministerial roles, longer appointments so that expertise can build up) and a different way of applying checks and balances, which is more transparent and also more competent (and grown up) than it is now.

The GE process needs to be updated too. A national non binding vote for principles would be interesting - do the people want sufficient government control and taxation to ensure that people in need are treated in a humane way but not so much that enterprise is compromised? Do the people want the NHS to be given back to health staff and taken away from PFI contracts? And for each issue, more information provided about meaning and consequences.

The Alistair Heath who thought the mini-budget was a good idea? Yeah... Not gonna listen to him.

"In September 2022, Heath welcomed the mini-budget submitted by the UK Chancellor of the Exchequer, Kwasi Kwarteng, with unbridled enthusiasm.

Heath wrote: "This was the best Budget I have ever heard a British Chancellor deliver, by a massive margin". (From Wikipedia).

All good points, but in terms of fiscal policy Labour have committed to following the Conservative's policies.

They've only got about 8 seats

I don't know who Alistair Heath is but he's a bit histrionic isn't he? He's hit his knickers right in a twist.

I've only got as far as "Left Wing Stormtroopers"

Is it supposed to be funny?

Is he pretending?