@Newrumpus
Wow FifteenToes - your assumptions about me though wrong are interesting.
The real reason I started the thread is because I think we are in a really interesting and challenging period of political realignment. Many traditional Labour voters have voted Conservative for the first time ever and having done so may be much harder for Labour to engage. I think this is challenging and also exciting. I can’t see Labour at the moment doing anything to suggest that they have understood that they need to reengage their traditional voters and this leaves the potential for a genuinely new and progressive movement to emerge.
Sorry, having reread your OP I see it isn't as inflammatory as I thought. I think I was riled by some other comments further down.
I just despair of this whole conversation. Fact is, the country IS more middle class now. The working class culture that created a Labour consensus large enough to form a majority in the 40s or 60s just isn't large enough to do that. So anything the Labour party does to court the social conservatism of that culture is going to simultaneously lose support from their other base among middle class urban professionals and young people. And vice versa. There was no better demonstration of this than the Brexit focus of the 2019 election, where Labour's unconvincing position on the issue perfectly illustrated the impossible task of trying to hold these two support bases together.
The ridiculous thing is that so much of this is so superficial. The WC want to stick it to the MC because they are peeved about superficial markers of class. They don't like being told how it is by people who went to university, people from London, progressives into identity politics. Where they do raise real substantial issues, apart from Brexit, these are invariably issues that are exactly the kinds of things Corbyn was bringing back to Labour (eg focus on workers' rights, above). But they couldn't vote for Corbyn because he comes from London and went to a grammar school. That's why they had to vote for Johnson instead, who went to that well known inner city comp called "Eton" and left at 16 to work down the mine.
That being the other ridiculous thing: You say Labout have to reform "their attitudes toward the working class", but what do you seriously think the Tories' attitudes toward the working class are? Blair and Brown may have been lukewarm on plenty of Labour values, but they did far more for working class people than the Tories have ever done. It just doesn't make any sense, and it makes a nonsense of the idea that that's the actual problem. You can't tell me the WC will only vote for a genuine WC individual who speaks for WC values, and that's why they voted for Boris Johnson and Jacob Rees Mogg.
Eventually the WC are going to have to suck it up and understand that they don't have the numbers to decide a whole party's culture any more. Or not. That understanding was able to be kicked into the long grass by the grand delusion that a Tory Brexit was going to solve all their problems. The Tories are masters at dividing people and galvanising them against a perceived enemy - the EU wasn't the first such target and I'm sure it won't be the last. The next one appears to be "The Woke", and judging by some of the threads on this very forum it looks like paying pretty good dividends. Brexit might not have delivered WC's dream jobs YET, but that's only because of all the employment quotas being filled by disabled trans lesbian muslims, right?