Is dh right when he says he can't vote for Labour simply because of this?

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Just had a discussion with DH as our postal votes are in soon. His sole reasoning as to why he can't vote for JC is that he's an extremist, he's a communist and because previously he has aligned himself with extremists and seemed to sympathise with them. He thinks there will be more attacks under GC as he won't be taken seriously and he will 'try to make friends with them if anything happens' rather than using a hard line.

He sent me this article when I asked him to back his views up.

foreignpolicy.com/2017/06/07/voting-for-jeremy-corbyn-isnt-just-dumb-its-dangerous/

I was thinking I would vote for labour but now rethinking. Is he right?

You need to look up the difference between a communist, a Marxist and a democratic socialist. Corbyn is the latter.

'Journalists, check your evidence on antisemitism!'

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'This extensive review of data about antisemitism in the UK demonstrates that media claims aboutrampantleft-wing antisemitism are based on unproven and unsourced allegations, resulting in the stifling of rational debate about both Israel/Palestine and the dangers of antisemitism and racism.

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'The largest survey ever undertaken was conducted by the Institute for Jewish Policy Research (JPR), with data gathering by Ipsos MORI. The authors foundstrong antisemitic attitudes[#]of similarly low prevalence (average 3.6%) from the far left and across the political spectrum. Only on the far right was it significantly higher (13%)

'Repeat surveys commissioned by the vigorously pro-Israeli organisation, the Campaign Against Antisemitism, have shown that adoption ofnegative antisemitic stereotypeswas higher among Conservative and UKIP voters than LibDem and Labour voters, and had declined since 2015 when Corbyn became leader...'
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www.jewishvoiceforlabour.org.uk/article/check-evidence/

American companies and NHS Mental Health Services.

'...in recent years a small cluster of fatcats have got their claws into Britain’s psychiatric services, exploiting the struggles of the health service to cope with surging demand.

These operators have grabbed nearly £2bn of business, providing almost one quarter of NHS mental health beds and soaking up close to half the total spend on child and adolescent mental health services.

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This means they own many NHS-funded units holding people such as teenage girls who self-harm and adults with suicidal thoughts, along with hundreds of people with autism and learning disabilities scandalously locked up due to lack of support in their local communities.

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These firms benefit as overloaded mental health services and risk-averse officials send more and more troubled citizens into secure units.

It is a lucrative business when it costs up to £730,000 per patient a year. Bosses can pocket millions – but many frontline workers earn little more than minimum wage and the use of agency staff is routine, despite the need to develop patient relationships.

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Acadia, a Tennessee-based health giant, spent £1.3bn buying the Priory Group and now boasts of earning than £188m in just three months from British public services. “Demand for independent sector beds has grown significantly as a result of the NHS reducing its bed capacity and increasing hospitalisation rates,” said its last annual report.

Operating profits at Cygnet, owned by another huge US firm, have surged to £45.2m due to deals with 228 NHS purchasing bodies after it bought a rival group last year. Another outfit called Elysium, backed by private equity through a Luxembourg firm, only launched three years ago, but is already earning revenues of £61.2m from at least 55 units.

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But a study by the Rightful Lives campaign group has found these three firms alone own 13 of the 16 mental health settings judged “inadequate” by the Care Quality Commission watchdog, since it found some teeth after the furore over abusive detention of people with autism and learning disabilities exploded a year ago.

Cygnet runs eight of these “inadequate” units, although its US boss is reportedly the richest chief executive in the hospital industry, who collected more than £39m in one year from pay, bonuses and stock. Priory and Cygnet also owned hospitals exposed by disturbing undercover television documentaries over the past year....'

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inews.co.uk/opinion/swathes-of-our-nhss-psychiatric-facilities-have-been-sold-to-us-firms-1329232?fbclid=IwAR0N60dkpNseRJZT9tD3tYLSZ64HUMNvoXaH_PayJ4euL0h-9x1Z7TVxY7o

That Nazi sympathiser was also the first woman to be elected and sit in the house of commons. Do you think that the people who voted for her were not entitled to their choice?

Jeremy Corbyn and two of his most senior socialist sidekicks have backed a campaign group that wants to repeal all current counter-terror laws. The Labour leader, John McDonnell and Diane Abbott have all given their support to the Campaign Against Criminalising Communities (CAMPACC) in the past.

Dianne Abbott insisted Labour would not only rip up its promise at the 2017 election to end free access for all EU citizens, it will go further to extend the offer worldwide.

This needs to be shouted from rooftops over next 8 days by anybody opposed to the PM's Brexit deal.
www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/boris-johnson-brexit-cost-uk-economy-no-deal-trade-general-election-a9230351.html

The independent report shows it will hammer the economy to the tune of over £20 Billion a year.

We also have had an admission by Dominic Raab today in his interview with Adam Boulton that USA could hike up drug prices in event of a trade deal. As well as a leaked report showing the PM is planning to use cheaper staff to fill nurse vacancies.

I pretty left-wing and wouldn't describe JC as an extremist. He is fully socialist, that's enough to get a lot of the right-wingers shouting communist, it's not. It's just not focused on big business shafting everyone.

It is pretty scandalous when the 6 richest people in the UK own as much wealth than the bottom 13 million people combined, that i itself shows a broken and divided society.

KenDodd I agree with you so am ditching my intention of voting LD and taking the advise of the tactical voting which has come up as Labour. Considering the attached email was from Naomi Smith (LD) I have to take it seriously. Also no LD leaflets through my door.

I don't want Corbyn as PM but I don't want Johnson either.

I'm voting tactically in the vain hope we get a hung parliament and both leaders eventually piss off and we can get decent leaders again and life goes back to normal.

God, wouldn't that just be lovely.

Education policies are always the most important to me. Labour introduced tuition fees, and the academy programme. I can never vote labour.
And yes, I know the conservatives came in and wreaked their own special kind of magic with both...

Both if you know the Tories wreaked havoc, why are you wanting them back in government Bintang? Because that is the ultimate consequence of not voting for whoever is most likely to unseat the local Tory. I am no fan of JC or tuition fees or academies. But the fact my kids school has a 60k deficit and can't afford paper and glue is down to the Tories and nobody else.

HINBU

caringcarer
When Conservative party were bombed and some in hospital very ill JC invited IRA to Westminster to talk to him over drinks. Sickening.

Corbyn has said he was trying to work towards a resolution. His views on resolving conflict through non military means seem pretty consistent throughout a long career in politics.

Would you have preferred a more subtle/secretive approach like Margaret Thatcher's? Some of her actions turned out to be in sharp contrast to her rhetoric at the time on not engaging with terrorists:

www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-northern-ireland-16366413

unusualsuspicion you have no idea where I live! I have never lived in a constituency that was not a safe labour seat- in 28 house moves!
Like it matters one hot what I vote
I always vote, even in local elections (when occasionally we do get non-labour councillors to be fair). It just has no effect on the outcome. I think the narrowest margin there was was 2300 at a general election once.

Bintang by that reasoning none of us need bother voting. I live in a safe labour/Libdem seat but until the early 90s it was safe tory. Individual votes matter collectively!

How could anyone seriously think that Boris Johnson cares about the poor, sick, less fortunate and NHS after today's disgraceful actions

twitter.com/joepike/status/1204018593656180736

www.itv.com/news/calendar/2019-12-09/boris-johnson-takes-itv-reporter-s-phone-after-refusing-to-look-at-photo-of-boy-on-hospital-floor/

I honestly fear for the NHS and social care if he is re-elected as PM this Thursday.

Well don’t vote for labour if you don’t want to but that is one silly reason imho.

Corbyn did try to have a dialogue with terrorist groups. He believes that only with dialogue can peace be achieved. Tony Blair believed something similar but did it better from a position of power and achieved the Good Friday Agreement which did result in massive IRA disarmament. So you can’t really say that Corbyn’s approach was mad when Blair using a similar approach achieved great things (talking just Good Friday Agmt here not the rest of it).

The press like to make a big fuss about how Corbyn used the word “friends” to refer to some leaders of a terrorist group. But, at the time, he was talking to Arab groups trying to promote peace, and ‘friends’ is a standard term in any kind of Arab business conversation. He didn’t mean ‘friends’ in the playground sense, he was abiding by the culture of the conversation he was in.

Corbyn is not an extremist and it’s pretty offensive to call him one. Go watch some extremist videos on youtube, then watch a Corbyn BBC interview, and hopefully the difference will become apparent to you.

Also, please don’t let your husband tell you how to vote. That was the main argument against giving women the vote! You can vote how you like and he need never know... If he asks just mutter something about the greens having some good points on climate change. My husband would be upset if he knew I was voting labour, because Corbyn wants to increase our tax bill. But I actually think British child poverty and food banks are more of an issue than cheap vs posh units in our new kitchen. I can live without a granite worktop.