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Do people who voted Labour know what they really voted for?

51 replies

TooTiredToTidy · 25/06/2017 20:06

Their slogan was 'For the Many not the Few' -- everyone thinks Labour are there to help the most disadvantaged in the UK. But their manifesto failed to reverse all the Tory welfare cuts to the poorest and instead bought youth votes with an expensive promise to cut tuition fees and suggested they'd backpay students them - which, because it's mainly the middle classes who send their kids to Uni is effectively a tax break for the middle classes.

The IFS, a highly respected independent Economic think tank crunched the numbers and showed that Labour's manifesto failed to help the 0-60% poorest earners in this country and instead help the 60-90% highest earners.

Then Corbyn is at Glastonbury, which you can only afford if you're pretty damn loaded, predominantly white and middle class being lauded as a saviour for the downtrodden and vulnerable.

Then don't start me on the harm their Brexit stance - ending Freedom of Movement and effectively being out of the Single Market & Customs Union - will do to the UK, our economy and the future of all these hopeful youths who gave him their vote.

It's shameless!!

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Neverknowing · 25/06/2017 20:51

I actually had no idea. I'm only twenty and voted Corbyn because I don't know any better and just wanted free tuition (even though I've never been to uni and don't intend to).
Not everyone who has a different opinion to you is an idiot op. I'm sure we could write a list of everything that's bad with every party. No vote is a perfect vote.

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 25/06/2017 21:01

I voted Labour, so obviously l was voting for a Marxist😂. At least the DM and Express told me l was!

I voted Labour for a nationalised rail service, for help forThe Millenials who've been screwed over by successive governments. I voted for a better world for my children and everyone else's children.
I voted for compassion and support and an end to food banks, child poverty, ridiculous house prices and austerity. I believe public workers are the backbone of the country and deserve to be paid properly when they are policing the streets, teaching our children, nursing our relatives and fighting our fires.

I'm hope that the New Left Wing Labour Party eradicate the established and ruling classes😊

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 25/06/2017 21:04

Oh, and also for the party that does the best it can to sort out the mess of Brexit. That was inflicted on us by a few hard right Tories who want to plunge the country back into a post war austerity world.

FeelTheNoise · 25/06/2017 21:07

Yes thanks 😊 I know who I voted for and who I voted against. Your OP is riddled with cherry picked cack and I suggest you educate yourself further 🌹

TheEmojiFormerlyKnownAsPrince · 25/06/2017 21:17

And as for Gastonbury, Billy Bragg did it first. Res arch the Red Wedge. Left wing politics and music have always been close bedfellows. Remember Blair hobnobbing with Oasis(not that Blair was very left wing. However l remember Rock against Racism, Rock against Thatcher.

I also remember the Conservatives trying to set up a gig for the Tories. The only musician who would play was Gary Numan🤣🤣. The left had all the huge stars at the time. Gary Numan fgs🤣🤣🙃🙃

DoNotBringLulu · 25/06/2017 21:20

I voted labour for an end to austerity, but with reservations. I believe the IFS also said both Tory and labour manifestos didn't explain where the money is going to come from, labour said they will tax the richest 5%, but they have ways of avoiding paying the tax....unpopular, but the Lib Del policy of raising income tax by 1p could be more effective. It will take a long time to reverse privatisation of railways etc, will depend on labour gaining power as mentioned by a previous poster, for more than 1term.

muckypup73 · 25/06/2017 21:22

Oh no............................. wheres the op gone???????????

DoNotBringLulu · 25/06/2017 21:26

Oh yes...Brexit.....didn't vote for it, hard Brexit is on its way out by the look of things...I'd rather have Kier Starmer negotiating with the EU.

Mummmy2017 · 25/06/2017 21:48

I voted Tory as don't want t change horse mid gallop.

I want the foreign aid budget to be used to fund the people who have come to the UK, as feel it's wasted on the Indian Space Program, amongst other things.

I want kids to pay for Uni, they get better jobs if they can get into their choosen feild of work, if they can't they won't pay as it's wage related.

I think if I Doctor or Nurse leaves the UK they should be billed unless they have worked 10 years,, I want less penpushers and more helpers to help the nurses, you don't need a degree to make a bed, and if people are good at helping and enjoy it, why can't they be funded to train to replace the nurses from agency's that cost so much... Same with Doctors, there has to be a way to train more to fill the void and cut the Locum costs...

I want retirement villages built that older people WANT to move to.... with better aminaties, so the 3 bed homes they had can be released to be filled with families who need them, so the one bed flats can be made avaliable for single people,,

Theworldisfullofidiots · 25/06/2017 21:54

Yes I did, thanks.

Yolannnda · 25/06/2017 22:00

Your views are quite old fashioned and outdated. 'Middle classes who send their kids to Uni' actually not many parents pay for their DCs places, most fund it themselves. Ive just done an adult access course along with hundreds of older independant adults wanting to go to Uni, without their parents 'sending' them.

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 25/06/2017 22:05

I want less penpushers and more helpers to help the nurses
And yet at the moment due to cuts in the (much cheaper) ward clerks who used to maintain patient records, chase blood results etc and answer phones on the wards nurses are wasting time doing these roles instead Confused

Slightlyperturbedowlagain · 25/06/2017 22:11

This bizarre (daily mail?) idea that the NHS doesn't need staff to actually organise and administer the system is like suggesting banks should only employ counter staff and not bother with anyone keeping records of the money. I know that it's often not as efficient as it could be, but just getting rid of them doesn't solve anything.

TheCrowFromBelow · 25/06/2017 22:18

The IFS was pretty damning about the Conservative manifesto, but that's OK because they've dropped half of it anyway and U turned on the rest.
There's a word to describe that, now what is it? Oh, yes - it's shameless.

Biscuitsneeded · 25/06/2017 22:18

Yes thank you.

UncontrolledImmigrant · 25/06/2017 22:24

I quite like a politician who can quote poetry appropriately, mindful of its meaning and the context in which it was written

He's kind of growing on me, tbqh

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 25/06/2017 22:35

John McDonnell's comments today are what people voted for thisbis real Corbyn and McDonnell talk. Corbyn is no different he hasn't even condemned what he said (well no need to right now as their isn't an election) he just comes over as being a nicer and more sincere he is an agitator as McDonnell is

They will use the tragic Grenfell Tower fire for their own political agenda while not actually doing anything to help anyone but of course talk at a rally create anger what for civil unrest a revolution Confused

This is the Labour Party now and how it will be for some time probably will loose another two elections the splits won't heal the far left have control with an agenda that has become a populist agenda (which is a joke how many won't snort at the idea they voted for a populist party)

muckypup73 · 25/06/2017 22:41

I reckon the orignal op was Theresa May and she couldnt face the questions so she done a runner!!!!

alpacasandwich · 25/06/2017 22:56

It's funny how some people dig deep into anything Corbyn says and blatantly distort it, yet never apply the same critical lens to the tories.

MyWhatICallNameChange · 25/06/2017 22:59

I vote labour? Not because I think Jeremy Corbyn is the messiah (he's not the messiah, he's a very naughty boy! Wink) but because I agreed with more of what was in the labour manifesto than any other party.

Obviously I don't agree with all of it, but I like to think I'm intelligent enough to figure out what I agree with.

Sangria · 26/06/2017 10:33

So £270 is OK for lower earners? Exactly where does 'poverty' kick in? I've often wondered, especially when I see free school meals children going to Disneyland (Florida).

Cherryflamingo · 26/06/2017 10:42

Yes I know what I voted for thank you. What a patronising post.

TheFirstMrsDV · 26/06/2017 10:47

Sangria' post is one of the reasons I voted Labour

StoorieHoose · 28/06/2017 22:11

£270 saved up over a year is doable if you really wanted to go to Glastonbury

cdtaylornats · 28/06/2017 22:27

right wing ideology of extreme privatisation and deregulation that led to the Grenfell tower deaths

But stunningly enough this same problem is replicated everywhere no matter which way the council leaned.

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