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Why do people dislike Jeremy Corbyn?

103 replies

Tweedledee3Tweedledum · 31/01/2017 19:26

Seriously asking...

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JosefK · 01/02/2017 21:51

Because basically he has spent his life opposing multilateral institutions like NATO and that puts him in the same company as Trump. And like Trump, his sympathies with Putin and Assad are transparent.

And this to say nothing of his IRA sympathies or associations with anti-semitic terrorist organisations.

I position myself on the left, but Corbyn represents a hidebound, backward leftism I despise.

Also he's plain inept: awkward, shambolic and with zero communication skills.

As a person he comes across a conceited narcicisst who is happier basking in the devotion of select acolytes in town halls than winning the power needed to change the country.

His position on Brexit was the last straw. I am now voting Lib Dem.

EnthusiasmIsDisturbed · 01/02/2017 22:19

OlennasWimple I think many people are unaware of his connections with the IRA

The run up to a GE we will be reminded of his connections over and over again both to the IRA and at a time when we were under constant threat and also his connections to Hamas and Hezbollah

The press haven't really started their attack on him they simply haven't needed to but no one with his history should ever or would ever be voted PM

Bazoo23 · 01/02/2017 22:24

Because he's a threat to national security.
Because he's a college protestor who never grew up.
Because the country would be a complete shambles with him in charge.
Because he's a disrespectful cunt when it comes to our armed forces.
He wants "dialogue" with ISIS. Well off you pop over to Syria then Jeremy see how warmly you're received.
He's an awful awful creature.

MsMarple · 01/02/2017 22:31

Because the whole Brexit thing has shown just how flimsy his principles are.

He was always opposed to the EU, voted and argued against it, but shoved those convictions under the carpet because he wanted to maintain his own position and the support of the mps/party/voters who he thought would all want to remain. A man of principle would have been open and honest about his own views. Now that he knows how much support there was for Brexit in the Labour heartlands he's flipped back again, under the guise of respecting the will of the people. He has no integrity!

slightlyglitterbrained · 01/02/2017 22:36

Brexit.

I honestly can't see how anyone could continue to support him after that.

I may still vote Labour in the next election, but only because my MP was one of those defying the three line whip, and has generally been absolutely excellent. She'd make a far better leader.

PigletWasPoohsFriend · 01/02/2017 22:36

Where to begin? He is a shambling, useless, ineffective career politician and leader disliked by a large chunk of his own party over which he has no control. Whilst Labour were in Government he rebelled over 400 times against his own party's whip. I abhor the fact that his friends include ex-IRA and Hamas, he's an Islington luvvie who has no interest in this country or its people, Labour will lose every GE whilst he is leader (actually that's good news grin ). Need I go on?

^ this just about sums it up.

I had been a Labour member for many years, as had DH. Neither if us are anymore.

LauraPalmersBodybag · 01/02/2017 22:37

Fucking Jeremy Corbyn and his cowardly approach to the referendum.

Twogoats · 01/02/2017 22:39

He has made Labour unelectable to the point that I think he's a Tory plant!

noblegiraffe · 01/02/2017 22:48

Because he's useless? When the Tories imploded post-Brexit, did he help Labour capitalise on that or did he give the Tories plenty of breathing space and a chance to recoup while the Labour party disappeared up its own arse? FFS Labour's best chance of attack in ages and they were all too busy fucking resigning - except Jeremy!

And when he didn't congratulate Theresa May on becoming Prime Minister, that was rude. Major politically events happen and he just wangs on about jam and gardening.

ImperialBlether · 01/02/2017 22:56

I agree, noblegiraffe. He had this huge opportunity to both influence the working class Labour votes and to capitalise on the result - he did neither.

And who wants a rude leader? Sharp, sarcastic, yes (though he's neither) - but childish and rude? No. You couldn't send him anywhere.

SwedishEdith · 01/02/2017 23:22

He can't articulate his ideas clearly. He becomes agitated and defensive when put under any kind of questioning. He lacks warmth. His oratory skills are poor - speeches start promisingly and then he blusters and they fade out with no closing killer punch. Can't think on his feet quickly. Lacks intellectual depth. No sense that he has long-term plan and knows how to bring people along with it.

I could apply all of the above to Theresa May as well, btw.

lljkk · 04/02/2017 17:51

I keep reading anecdotes about how he undermined his colleagues, undermined the Remain campaign (prioritised his niche interests instead), rode roughshod over fellow MPs. Terrible manager.

“Many of my colleagues who were on the front bench have found it impossible to work with him. They have found that they agree policies only to find that something different is announced or that they cannot get meetings with him to decide important issues."

He can't inspire confidence among the PLP.

I am a member of LP & twice didn't vote for him.

strawberrypenguin · 04/02/2017 17:53

Because he comes across as ineffective and isn't doing the job of the opposition leader well at all. He should step aside. I can't take him seriously at all, looks and acts like he couldn't find his way out of a wet paper bag

cherryrednose · 04/02/2017 18:15

I don't feel I can trust him basically. I keep hearing even from his critics that he's 'a decent man' and 'very prinicipled' but I haven't seen much evidence of that. He trots out stuff that people want to hear but I don't believe he would go through with any of it if he got into power. It would all be about bitching and their little bubble of personal politics.

Labour desperately need to weed him out and find an effective leader or they're finished and I say that as a labour voter.

Scaffleen · 04/02/2017 18:24

I like him but he's in the wrong party and he will be the death of labour

AllThePrettySeahorses · 08/02/2017 14:52

For many of the reasons upthread. Corbyn has utterly betrayed Labour. He is a liar and a hypocrite.

Also, I don't believe that he is popular with the grassroots - astroturfers, more like. At the second leadership election, nearly 70% of long-term Labour voters (classed as those who were members at the 2015 election) voted for Owen Smith. So his popularity, if that's what you can call it, is with new members.

And yes, the similarities with Trump are clear.

FloweringDeranger · 10/02/2017 09:39

I think we needed Jeremy Corbyn to put real socialism back on the table, and he did that. We need to regain the balance between the needs of all and the needs of the individuals. I don't understand why people can't see where this extreme individualistic free market rubbish is taking us - they complain about Jeremy being a throwback to the past but ignore the signs of the past returning all around us. A past when most people were virtual slaves to a few hoity-toity rich and lived in squalor while the few lived in their stately manors, with separate staircases and tunnels for their servants so they didn't even have to see us. Except that the media and politicians have been spinning us for so long we no longer know up from down.

But peacemaking in such a divided country requires leadership, communication and a certain amount of pragmatism, and I no longer think Corbyn can do that. I don't know who can.

myoriginal3 · 10/02/2017 09:42

100% truth here. I hate his beard and I hate his ill fitting suits. He looks like a hobo in a second hand suit all the time.

BreatheDeep · 10/02/2017 09:53

He's a terrible leader and half his policies belong in a fantasy land. Now would be the ideal time for labour to stand out as a voice of reason against the tories but he just makes them a laughing stock. Labour stand no chance of being elected with him as a leader so we're stuck with the tories for the foreseeable. They have no opposition.

Really praying the Lib dems step up soon.

LunaLoveg00d · 10/02/2017 09:55

He reminds me of those shabbily dressed people who used to stand outside the Student Union selling the Socialist Worker.

He's woolly, ineffectual, has no respect from half his MPs who think he's a bit of a joke too, and his uselessness is letting Nippy Sturgeon and her crowd lord it over Scotland. I have voted Labour in the past but would never do so again with Comrade Corbyn in charge.

Chuka Umuna would have been SO much better.

nong45 · 10/02/2017 10:11

Agree with just about all of the above. I voted Corbyn in the first time and since become more and more dismayed to the point of utterly depressed about what is happening to the Labour Party since. There are so many Labour MPs who work hard, speak out and then Corbyn finally pops up, says something ridiculous and all that good work is ruined. I am so upset about his lack of support for the nearly 70% of members who voted remain and his whole leadership bid was built on listening to the membership and the party being built on a movement. His movement has been totally in the other direction. He is no man of principle he is a hypocrite. I've joined the Lib Dems the only party that do seem to have made a difference in recent years by reining in the Tories in coalition even though they were scapegoated for that. I think in contrast to Corbyn they have been strong and vocal and principled throughout this Brexshit fiasco.

RortyCrankle · 11/02/2017 12:41

Thinking about this some more, I'm a Conservative voter (and a Brexit supporter) but even I can see that there should be checks and balances and effective opposition to Government, regardless of which side is in power. Corbyn being leader of Labour effectively means there is none.

CaptainBrickbeard · 11/02/2017 12:51

The three line whip on the Article 50 vote was the death knell as far as I'm concerned. I don't see myself ever voting Labour again.

meditrina · 11/02/2017 12:52

I thought that Corbyn was a good choice - Labour needed someone who actually believed in something, rather than just seeking the right piece of spin to ensure people are saying nice things about the party (put that way because it's not actually a synonym for being electable).

Labour aren't electable at the moment.

Going back to Blairite spin would just mean the end for the party.

UKIP has a real chance of becoming the next 'second party' because of the Labour collapse and because they are strongest in what should be Labour traditional heartlands.

A leader with principals and beliefs would not make the Labour Party short-term electable (and would not necessarily see that as a desirable goal anyhow) but would be leading the party, telling the public about the new vision, persuading people that it said vision is right. And then that in I tself would be the counter to a government formed from a party with a different vision.

Corbyn has now had long enough to demonstrate that he can lead at this level, and can persuade the electorate. I do not think he is doing so - I think people would be just as hard pressed to know what Labour stands for now as they were at the last election.

venusinscorpio · 11/02/2017 12:54

I totally agree with Flowering and meditrina.

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