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Trump (Part 6)

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claig · 17/12/2016 15:35

More on Trump

It is a Trump world and as the Modi saying goes

“Aab Ki Baar Trump Sarkar”

and as the Stump for Trump Sisters say

"Get on the Trump Train or get the hell out of the way"

Rock'n'roll

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claig · 19/12/2016 11:25

It's "Made in the USA" from now on.

They threw everything they had at Trump - media liars, Oxbridge Bliars, spinners, sycophants, "servants extraordinaire", even Sir Bob and the Irish charidee pop star bloke joke, Bozo - but they all failed.

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SouthallGirl · 19/12/2016 11:30

This is what I understand the connectedness of the globalists to be. Claig - your views pls.

The globalist elite are comprised of four essential pillars: Corporate, Academic, Political and Religion.

The goals for globalism are created by Corporate, but the goals have to "laundered" and justified for general consumption.

Academic provides studies and white papers that justify Corporate’s goals.

Political sells Academic’s arguments to us the public and if necessary, changes laws to accommodate and facilitate Corporate in getting what it wants.

Religion is the rubber-stamp that secures corporate, academic and political rule into a global order. And there’s control of Media too.

InformalRoman · 19/12/2016 11:42

I think you'll find that The Donald and Co will be busy changing laws for Trump and his cronies to make vast sums of money. Can't get much more political elite than that.

SouthallGirl · 19/12/2016 11:47

The following is not strictly about Trump, but the piece does refer to one of the people that Trump is up against - Soros.

"Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban accused billionaire investor George Soros of being a prominent member of a circle of "activists" trying to undermine European nations by supporting refugees heading to the continent from the Middle East and beyond.

"Orban says it is a "circle of activists", not just Soros. This is a long term global governance plan that has been in existence from before the European Union was formed. The European Union is just another brick in the wall. Soros is just another team member driving global governance and globalisation for a plutocratic billionaire class above the heads of politicians like Merkel or Orban.

"Orban is defying the plan, as are Poland and other Eastern European countries. How long Orban can get away with sticking two fingers up is anyone's guess. Merkel can't, so Orban will probably lose.

"Hungarian Prime Minister Viktor Orban accused billionaire investor George Soros of being a prominent member of a circle of "activists" trying to undermine European nations by supporting refugees heading to the continent from the Middle East and beyond.

"Orban says it is a "circle of activists", not just Soros. This is a long term global governance plan that has been in existence from before the European Union was formed. The European Union is just another brick in the wall. Soros is just another team member driving global governance and globalisation for a plutocratic billionaire class above the heads of politicians like Merkel or Orban.

"Orban is defying the plan, as are Poland and other Eastern European countries. How long Orban can get away with sticking two fingers up is anyone's guess. Merkel can't, so Orban will probably lose.

WHY would old men want to drive globalisation, Transatlantic Trade and Investment Partnership (TTIP), etc? What's in it for them?

Because they are only like managers in a global corporation. The firm's plan has been set out long ago and the current CEOs execute it before handing it over to their successors. Every CEO and "activist" adds another brick in the wall.

Whatever for?

Globalisation, power, control. That is why the powerful are driving through supranational global governance and that is why populist parties and many ordinary people are against it.

"Centralised control above the heads of sovereign nations is what this is about. Merkel did not ask the German people, she had no choice. She will probably be toppled because of it but the globalisation process, TTIP and all the rest will still steamroller on without seeking public approval.

"As Orban says, the ultimate aim is to weaken Europe and change its way of life. The aim is to weaken independent sovereign nations and make them part of a supranational union. National identity and independence needs to be weakened for that and divide and rule is a part of the destabilisation process." But none of us know WHY this has come about, and the why is what is stopping us from fully accepting the reality."

Lweji · 19/12/2016 11:51

The concept of "globalist elite" is interesting.
Because it's assigning a label to globalists. Why are globalists elite? Why aren't globalists the people? People who'd like to buy things cheaper, move anywhere they like, and have easy access to many different things.
What about the nationalist elites? The Republican party is full of them. So is the Conservative party.

Weren't some complaining earlier about assigning labels? Why is it ok to assign globalist to elites and elite to globalist? The two are not the same group. There are some elites that are globalist, but others are nationalist. Some globalists are elites, other are from the people.

It's completely disingenuous to always put the two together. And part of the demagogic spin that Trump, Farage et al have been using.

And how different it is to saying that someone who has a racist speech is racist?

Lweji · 19/12/2016 11:53

Religion is the rubber-stamp that secures corporate, academic and political rule into a global order.

Can you explain that?

claig · 19/12/2016 11:57

I don't think the globalists are religious in any sense - they are anti all religions, Christianity, Judaism, Islam etc etc. They are irreligious and sacrilegeous which is why they can go to war on a lie, they can profit from misery and destruction and continue to lie. They may be like Bliar and claim that God spoke to them and told them to do it, but that ain't no God as we all know it.

"You ain't no religious person, bruv"

The corporate, academic and political classes are all just "servants extraordinaire", just like Blair and the BBC.

The agenda of the top , top level, way above the "servants extraordinaire" is to take our liberty from us, deprive us of free speech and end our national sovereignties to create a Big Brother Panopticon where a tiny elite will stamp their boot on our faces forever as George Orwell wrote about in 1984.

They have all the money, all the "servants", all the pop stars and all the media, but they will still never beat the people because we have Donald J Trump and he said

"I will never back down"

Trump said to their "servants extraoridnaire", their pop stars and charidee pop icons

"you can stand me up at the gates of hell, but I won't back down"

and they did, and he didn't and we won and the rest is history

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GlassCircles · 19/12/2016 12:12

a circle of "activists" trying to undermine European nations by supporting refugees heading to the continent from the Middle East and beyond.

I'm probably being thick here, but I don't get it. Driving refugees towards the continent will surely fuel nationalism, not globalism?

SouthallGirl · 19/12/2016 12:14

Modern democracy is about 250 years old. For most of history, except for this brief period, the world has been ruled by powerful elites who wielded absolute power over their societies, controlled the wealth and resources of their known world, and dominated their people by force. The one world governance cabal wants to restore this model of totalitarian rule on a global scale, under permanent non-elected hereditary oligarchists.

EU policy continues to be based on the Kalergi plan. Check out the Coudenhove-Kalergi plan, which predates Trump. What the oligarchy elites try to present as an inevitability of modern life, is actually the product of a plan conceived decades ago. In 1922 Kalergi founded the “Pan-European” movement in Vienna, which aimed to create a new order, based on a federation of nations led by the United States. European integration would be just the first step in creating a world government. Trump does not want USA to be part of this.

Note that Merkel has been a recipient of the Kalergi prize, as has Pope Francis.

BertrandRussell · 19/12/2016 12:18

Southallgirl- I am still keen to know what it is you think I want to say and can't because political correctness......

SouthallGirl · 19/12/2016 12:19

I'm probably being thick here, but I don't get it. Driving refugees towards the continent will surely fuel nationalism, not globalism?

It will, at first. But we are all going to be pawns with fewer democratic rights.

Kalergi’s ideas define the EU’s policy of mass immigration with protective laws under the guise of humanitarianism aimed at destroying European identity and eventually creating a single race under the ruling elite. The EU has indoctrinated Europeans to tolerate and accept pc multiculturalism and infiltration via forced mass migration of mainly Africans and Arabs. The real goal being to completely denature and convert Europeans into individuals with no ethnic, historical or cultural cohesion. The initial low birth rate justification has now been replaced with Merkel’s ‘All Refugees Welcome’ declaration, thereby speeding up the process.

SouthallGirl · 19/12/2016 12:23

Claig - Your first para is right on. Yes.

The Vatican is also far too commercially 'knowing' and I do not consider to be a place for good men. But you see my point ...... there are some people, in some countries, who still want to hear it from the Pope or their own religious leaders and be comforted and reassured about a development or about a new law being brought in, etc. It's another post into the ground of the corrall.

claig · 19/12/2016 12:24

'But none of us know WHY this has come about, and the why is what is stopping us from fully accepting the reality'

If you listen carefully to their Green Agenda you will get a glimpse of what they have got planned for us and why they do everything they do. Their "servants extraordinaire" don't even understand it, they are just dupes, stepping stones to step on the people for Big Brother who uses the pop stars to spin the people.

But Trump is onto them, he knows their game, he knows all the players, the movers and shakers and he stepped in to save America and the people across the planet.

America is the beacon of liberty, they beat the King of England in 1776, they beat the elites with Trump in 2016 and they will save our freedoms from the technocratic, scientific Big Brother global elites.

With people like Millenial Millie on the case, wearing her red "Make America Great Again" hat, they will never beat the people.

Keep laughing at their Sirs, their pop stars, their "servants extraordinaire", they will never beat the people as long as we remain free to laugh at them.

It is all about control. the control freaks want to control the people, just like Big Brother did. They already control all their servants, now they want to control us and take our freedoms from us. But as Michael Moore said Trump's victory is "the biigest Fuck You ever recorded in human history".

We did it, we beat them and they are pissed. Watch the BBC to see how angwy they all are.

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SouthallGirl · 19/12/2016 12:29

Claig - I think that at some stage it might be better for Trump to come out and explain exactly what he means when he uses the word Elite, and also to bring in some of the above that we have posted - so that Americans can see how the tendrils of what is happening in Europe has spread to USA. If they could see a bigger picture, I think more people would get on board with him.

BertrandRussell · 19/12/2016 12:37

Southallgirl- I am still keen to know what it is you think I want to say and can't because political correctness

cozietoesie · 19/12/2016 12:42

....It's "Made in the USA" from now on....

So you're content to have a full scale trade war with China? Shock 45% import tariffs were what was mooted, if I recall?

claig · 19/12/2016 12:54

' I think that at some stage it might be better for Trump to come out and explain exactly what he means when he uses the word Elite'

He can't because the people don't understand what is happening, they watch the BBC. They think that just because Trump is a billionaire, that he believes what Blair and the "servants extraordinaire" believe when in fact they were all calling Trump "unfit" and desperately trying to stop him bringing about the people's revolution, "the biggest Fuck You ever recorded in human history" against the servants' masters.

Trump is still in a battle with the elites now. They are still trying to undermine him and stop him and brief against him. You only have to watch the BBC to see how desperate they are.

You have to understand why the EU MEPs get such extravagant expenses, such phenomenal perks, such high salaries and pensions and tax-free benefits. It is because they are nobodies compared to the Big Brother elites and Big Brother wants to keep them sweet so they will go along with the agenda and if they don't, then Big Brother leaks their bath plus expenses to the media which drives the hoi polloi mad and wakes them up and makes them ask what the hell these servants are up to.

Farage took the expenses but refused to shut up and follow the agenda, he dared to say "I want my country back" and that is the last thing Big Brother wants to hear.

Big Brother can easily beat Farage, but Big Brother can never beat America and Donald Trump.

That is why we are where we are. Trump vs Big Brother, Trump vs Godzilla, and the old monster has still got some legs on him yet and is battling Trump for supremacy even now in the heart of Manhattan and that is why Farage is in and out of Trump Tower more often than a rat goes up a drain pipe.

The whole world watches as the people's revolution continues.

Trump wil beat them because he told us they are "very, very stupid people" and Trump is not, but it will still be one hell of a fight and the smears and spin will continue on the BBC every night.

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claig · 19/12/2016 12:57

'So you're content to have a full scale trade war with China?'

It won't happen. China will back down and if their leaders are "very, very stupid people", like Blair, then they will be toppled by their own people. They are up against Trump, not Blair, an "intellectual yet idiot", a PPE and servant.

Trump told the world "America is back", "America First" and anyone who is too stupid to understand the enormity of the Trump Revolution, the People's Revolution, will learn the hard way that their game is up.

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cozietoesie · 19/12/2016 12:58

Lordy.

GlassCircles · 19/12/2016 13:21

He can't because the people don't understand what is happening, they watch the BBC

Presumably most of the USA doesn't watch the BBC - and why doesn't Trump just use Twitter? Surely such a powerful orator can find a way to get his message across without simply resorting to his usual shock jock tactics which put so many of 'the people' off him?

claig · 19/12/2016 13:24

'Lordy.'

I think I read reports that that is exactly what Blair said on election night when he heard that Trump had won, as well as "the game's up", just before Blair fainted and hit the floor with a thud.

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claig · 19/12/2016 13:27

' and why doesn't Trump just use Twitter?'

I have never seen a better communicator than Trump, to call him a genius is to do him an injustice, but even Trump is not capable of explaining the elite's game in 140 character chunks when the BBC and CNN devote hours and hours of broadcasts to spin against him.

Trump will beat the elites and when he does, he will explain to the people what they did.

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DeepanKrispanEven · 19/12/2016 13:32

Trump can't explain what he means by the elite because other people don't understand what is happening? There is, quite simply, no logic in that statement. Are you seriously contending that Trump is using language that he cannot explain and therefore doesn't understand and that that's fine?

Southall defines one the four pillars of the elite as corporate. But Trump is appointing swathes of corporate people to his administration. It isn't good enough for him to seek to redefine a commonly used word to suit his own convenience and to try to make himself look less of a hypocrite than he undoubtedly is.

DeepanKrispanEven · 19/12/2016 13:34

Trump cannot beat the elites because he has no intention of doing so. Why else has he has set up the highest net worth administration in modern US history?

DeepanKrispanEven · 19/12/2016 13:35

Blair fainted and hit the floor with a thud.

Didn't happen. Really, this is just childish.