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Media coverage deliberately biased against Corbyn, British public believes

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claig · 04/09/2016 19:39

The public understand the media's game.

There is no fooling the public or the Corbynistas. The usual tactics of the metropolitan elite have failed.

"Perception of unfairness extends beyond supporters of Labour leader"
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A majority of the British public believe the media is deliberately biased against Jeremy Corbyn and seeking to portray him in a negative light.
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Women in the Labour selectorate were more likely to believe the coverage was biased than men and older people in the group were also more likely to believe it had been deliberately biased "

www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/jeremy-corbyn-poll-labour-leadership-media-bias-believe-against-him-supporters-mi5-portland-a7225031.html

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EnthusiasmDisturbed · 06/09/2016 12:41

Don't forget Boris he to has spoken out against the establishment and how we must fight against it Grin Grin Grin

Corbyn and Boris fighting the same invisible force that no one can quite pin point to what it is, though Jeremy gave hints at knowing something about a golden circle Shock

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Abraiid2 · 06/09/2016 12:47

Ha ! at the thought of Emily T campaigning in traditional working class areas.

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claig · 06/09/2016 15:08

'The Cat from Japan is absolutely right on your use of "the Establishment"'

I refer you to Owen Jones's book called "The Establishment and how they get away with it". He doesn't get who they are, but he knows they are about.

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claig · 06/09/2016 15:10

'Jeremy gave hints at knowing something about a golden circle '

The term Corbyn used was "magic circle" which summed it up.

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Kaija · 06/09/2016 15:22

Claig, we've already been through the Owen Jones thing. Last time, when you were defending the right wing "anti-establishment" on the Trump/Farage thread, you referred us to Owen Jones, but when pressed on the detail, you demurred and said he'd got it all wrong.

Just tell us what you think "the Establishment" want, and how Corbyn and Farage are both going to save us from it.

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claig · 06/09/2016 15:25

That's off topic. This thread is about Corbyn and the media bias against him and the Corbynistas.

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Kaija · 06/09/2016 15:29

Not off topic in the slightest: it's about your use of the term "the Establishment". I gathered from your comments on this thread that you believe the anti-Corbyn media to be very much part of this. Is that not correct?

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claig · 06/09/2016 15:35

Absolutely. "Magic circle" and "all in it together" spring to mind. Fingers crossed that Corbyn beats the 172.

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Kaija · 06/09/2016 15:37

So I repeat my question: what do you think "the Establishment" want, and how are Corbyn and Farage both going to save us from it?

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claig · 06/09/2016 15:42

The Establishment want to maintain the stitch-up and the people of the country think that the Establishment media is biased and has been set on Corbyn in order to prevent him dismantling what he called their "magic circle". Fingers crossed for Corbyn.

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EnthusiasmDisturbed · 06/09/2016 15:45

Oh that's it the magic circle

No further details could be given as to how Jeremy is going to break up but he is

The golden circle was something to do with the media establishment (how many is there) that Jeremey is also going to take on and break up

I wonder if Boris will be given a job

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Kaija · 06/09/2016 15:46

That does not answer the question. What is the Establishment "stitch-up" And how is it that both Corbyn and Farage are the answer?

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AnnieOnnieMouse · 06/09/2016 15:47

Many Corbynistas - including myself - are wary of showing our faces just yet. We don't want our (supporter) vote cancelled. What support should I give to a party when it wouldn't let me vote as a member, despite all the blurb promising me I would be able to. Once the party conference happens, THEN the Corbynistas will come out of hiding from the local parties.

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claig · 06/09/2016 15:50

Is it any wonder nobody believes the "magic circle" any more and what they instruct the media to tell the public. Go Corbyn!

Remember the doom and gloom and punishment budgets the "magic roundabout" told us what would happen to us if we chose to disbelieve the "magic circle" about Brexit.

"BRITAIN WILL KEEP BOOMING: Fear-mongering experts admit UK will THRIVE outside EU

BRITAIN can boom outside the European Union, Brexit doom-mongers are increasingly admitting.

www.express.co.uk/news/uk/702483/brexit-britain-boom-economy-thrive-outside-eu-experts-admit

"Pound soars to seven-week high after UK services sector posts biggest rebound in 20 years"

www.telegraph.co.uk/business/2016/09/05/pound-nears-one-month-high-and-ftse-100-rises-ahead-of-key-uk-se/

The "magic circle" have lost their touch, they can't bewitch the people any more, they can't pull an Establishment media rabbit out of a hat any more and Corbyn says he is going to break their "magic circle".

The "magic circle" are waving their wands like Don Quixote to no effect, but the people have gorn Corbyn crazy and are waiting for Corbyn to break the "magic circle".

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Kaija · 06/09/2016 15:52

So The Express is not part of the Establishment?

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EnthusiasmDisturbed · 06/09/2016 15:52

Oh so the revolution is on its way

GrinGrinGrin

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Kaija · 06/09/2016 15:54

The Telegraph is anti-establishment?

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claig · 06/09/2016 15:55

'So The Express is not part of the Establishment?'

Absolutely not. It is derided by the great and the good and the "magic circle" who think they are a better class than Express readers.

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claig · 06/09/2016 15:58

'Oh so the revolution is on its way'

Absolutely. Corbyn has rocked the "magic circle's" roundabout, he has upset their cushy ride. That is why the 172 have been called upon to try and derail Corbyn's revolution, but the Corbynistas are wise to the tricks and spin of the media and the people of the country agree with them that the media is biased against Corbyn.

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Kaija · 06/09/2016 15:59

The new face of the anti-Establishment. 48th richest person in Britain.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Desmond

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Kaija · 06/09/2016 16:00

And the Telegraph, claig.

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freetrampolineforall · 06/09/2016 16:00

The media is also against Trump. Maybe if you come across as unelectable the media will be against you.

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Believeitornot · 06/09/2016 16:04

Surely "The Establishment" isn't an actual mafia gang but a representation of the same old type of politicians getting in to power.

So, with some exceptions, privately educated/elite grammar school or Oxbridge types career politicians who've done not much else but been a policy wonk. People who m, with some exceptions, come from a privileged background who don't really know what it's like to live in a £25k a year job living in a small house and just managing monthly pay check to monthly pay check. A sweeping generalisation but there you go.

Farage is very much "establishment", let's not pretend otherwise. Corbyn is just naive and very much a champagne socialist who doesn't actually want to run the country.

We need a strong democracy with a decent opposition. Otherwise we are sleep walking towards a one party state whether we like it or not.

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claig · 06/09/2016 16:06

Richard Desmond is an example to all working class people of how effort and talent can help one succeed and knock spots off the "magic circle" and their "silver spoons" to become one of the richest people in the country.

Desmond is not Establishment, he backed UKIP to the dismay of the "great and the good" and the "magic circle".

"After Cyril lost a significant amount of family money to gambling, his parents divorced[13] and 11-year-old Desmond moved with his mother, Millie, into a flat above a garage; he has described his impoverished early adolescence as a time when he was "very fat and very lonely".[13]

Desmond was educated at Edgware Junior School and Christ's College, Finchley.[11][14]
Early business careerEdit

Desmond left school at 15 and started working in the classified advertisements section of the Thomson Group, while playing the drums at gigs after a day's work.[14] After moving to another company, he became sales director of Beat Instrumental Magazine at 18. Desmond owned two record shops by the time he was 21.[15] In the mid-1970s, Desmond combined his interest in music and advertising to found, with Ray Hammond, International Musician and Recording World, a monthly magazine for musicians, eventually driving out of business long-established publications such as Beat Instrumental.

He was an early pioneer of the international licensing of magazines: International Musician soon had editions in the US, Australia, Japan, Germany as well as the UK.[16] This was followed by the publication of Home Organist, whose editor contributed the old-school motto Forti Nihil Difficile ("Nothing is difficult for the strong" – it was Disraeli's motto), still used by the Northern & Shell publishing group. Desmond eventually bought out Hammond.

en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Richard_Desmond

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Kaija · 06/09/2016 16:14

So it is the lack of education that makes Desmond an anti-establishment figure? Where does that leave Corbyn? Or that his background was not wealthy? Nope, that would rule out Farage.

Must be something else. So what is it Claig?

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